Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a drop in dignity and respect given once your kid goes to a uni ranked beyond around #70 that I have witnessed. People don't say anything, of course, but behind others backs they judge. For LACs it's a lot less clear cut, I think, since many people don't know LACs as well.

That says a lot about you and the people you hang out with.

It's something I've witnessed in many circles with many different types of people.

This only exists in the addled brains of the privileged DCUM types. Nobody else who matters (in the actual working world) cares. I’m 20 years out from an Ivy degree and literally nobody ever asks. I don’t recruit young people but if I did, I can tell you that there is one thing I would look at: writing and analytical skills. That can be gained anywhere and I certainly would not presume it can only be learned at a T20.

Writing and analytical skills have dropped off a cliff. They don’t even write many papers at most public schools anymore. We were told there are too many papers to grade. The schools kids develop good writing skills are predominantly private or Catholic schools. My kid is at an Ivy and his hand was stained blue from his 4 hour written final in one course. He did not have a single multiple choice exam.

We are both amazed at the reactions we get when anyone (stranger, neighbor, family, etc) asks where our kid goes to college. My spouse even went to an impressive (non-Ivy) and it didn’t elicit the same instant response. I always have sh@t on the Ivies- rallied they didn’t matter, grads not so impressive—but I was stunned to say the least at the difference in reactions.

Anonymous wrote:“Let's be honest.. if you have an applicant from MIT and one from UMD, you would look at the MIT applicant first.”
+1

Also that there are a few schools where if you tell people you went there it automatically communicates “very smart”: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT.

Not sure about that. MIT, Hopkins smart. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, maybe smart OR rich connected family.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a drop in dignity and respect given once your kid goes to a uni ranked beyond around #70 that I have witnessed. People don't say anything, of course, but behind others backs they judge. For LACs it's a lot less clear cut, I think, since many people don't know LACs as well.

That says a lot about you and the people you hang out with.

It's something I've witnessed in many circles with many different types of people.

This only exists in the addled brains of the privileged DCUM types. Nobody else who matters (in the actual working world) cares. I’m 20 years out from an Ivy degree and literally nobody ever asks. I don’t recruit young people but if I did, I can tell you that there is one thing I would look at: writing and analytical skills. That can be gained anywhere and I certainly would not presume it can only be learned at a T20.

^*pell

I don’t know. I went to a large state school. My kid is at an Ivy. It is very different from my experience at a large public university. Mine was more like McDonald’s service/education in comparison. I did okay after. But, my kid is much more intellectual and not a striver at all. I’m amazed at the differences. My spouse was poor and was on a will grant to a T10. It changed his life in a way I don’t think Ohio State would have.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a drop in dignity and respect given once your kid goes to a uni ranked beyond around #70 that I have witnessed. People don't say anything, of course, but behind others backs they judge. For LACs it's a lot less clear cut, I think, since many people don't know LACs as well.

That says a lot about you and the people you hang out with.

It's something I've witnessed in many circles with many different types of people.

Anonymous wrote:There is a drop in dignity and respect given once your kid goes to a uni ranked beyond around #70 that I have witnessed. People don't say anything, of course, but behind others backs they judge. For LACs it's a lot less clear cut, I think, since many people don't know LACs as well.

That says a lot about you and the people you hang out with.

Anonymous wrote:All of your points are correct but you’ll never convince the high anxiety, status-chasing people here so best of luck with this post.

+10.

Partly this is caused by the DCUM demographic having many (not all) who are obsessed with "status" or "prestige".

Ranking doesn't matter so much as the connection the school has to the field you want to work in. I went to a public flagship and then applied for jobs in the state capital, and got my first job because all my friends were already working there and half the people I interviewed with were alumni of my department. I'm pretty sure I had an advantage over people from other schools, regardless of ranking.

There is a drop in dignity and respect given once your kid goes to a uni ranked beyond around #70 that I have witnessed. People don't say anything, of course, but behind others backs they judge. For LACs it's a lot less clear cut, I think, since many people don't know LACs as well.

Anonymous wrote:All of your points are correct but you’ll never convince the high anxiety, status-chasing people here so best of luck with this post.

Indeed! Get out of this echo chamber and you’ll find T10, T30, T50, T100 etc don’t matter much, if at all, and definitely not after the first job.

I work in consulting with F100 companies with C-Suite leaders.

While there are tons of Ivy, T10 people working at these giant corporations they are also full of people at the top who came from state schools or “average” schools in the T100-200 range.

The new CEO at Nike is a TCU alum. My kid is strongly considering TCU and wherever he goes, I have a network which will support him with internship opportunities and access to jobs including finance, media, and tech. I can’t tell you how many people get fast tracked to the top of the list because of personal connections and favors. It’s the American way

https://www.tcu.edu/news/2024/elliott-hill-86-named-president-ceo-of-nike.php


https://www.tcu.edu/news/2024/elliott-hill-86-named-president-ceo-of-nike.php

Anonymous wrote:All of your points are correct but you’ll never convince the high anxiety, status-chasing people here so best of luck with this post.

+1

The whole system is crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:People chase after anything perceived as the best or prestige VIP. It’s why we have idiots driving recalled Cybertrucks

This.

It’s the insecure/brand-chasing parents. They want to brag and keep up with the Joneses.

Agree that I’d give a closer look to the resume of a state school grad with excellent internships over a top name school kid.

-An HYP grad

What if the top name school kid has excellent internships too and you can only select one for an interview?