Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:22     Subject: Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.thesun.ie/news/13237882/plastic-surgeon-restricted-dogs-ban-attack-psychological-damage/


What a classic example of a breed ban that doesn't solve the problem it's trying to solve. What kind of dog bite doesn't cause psychological damage? How many people don't like dogs because they were bitten as children? Were all those biting dogs "banned breeds"? No.

This is exactly the point. All dogs can bite. If you want fewer bites, you need more responsible owners.

Make an exam requirement to obtain a dog license. Increase the fines for off-leash dogs, etc. and use the funds to pay for more animal control officers. Remove the "two bite rule" and make it "one bite and you're out", encouraging owners to both better train and better contain their animals. Ban retractable leashes and other useless/dangerous equipment.

Those things would solve the problem. Breed bans only attempt to solve the PR problem some breeds have, when all breeds bite and any breed off-leash in public is a liability.


So you would ban dog parks?


No. Contain the stupidity. Some people are going to do this anyway, regardless of the fact that it's a terrible idea, so it's best to give them a specific location to do it.

I would never take my dog to one, but I believe they should exist. Every city that allows dogs should have a "central stupidity area", if for no other reason than to prevent the OP's brand of public space hijacking.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:20     Subject: Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:
The Holiday season sure brings out the crazies. OP, admit it, you were looking for a fight.


OP is trolling hard, getting coal for Christmas, probably doesn't even have a dog...

But if they do? Good luck with the curse you picked up for this one, OP. I really wouldn't let my dog off leash if I were you.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:20     Subject: Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never do! But I regularly see people doing this, which makes it so difficult when I’m walking my dog. Their dog inevitably comes after mine.

People get so testy if you ask “is that your dog?”


Kick it. If it's close enough to your foot, kick it. That's WAY too close.


Why would you kick another dog? I walk my dog on a leash but frankly I wouldn’t keep a dog who I couldn’t trust to not be aggressive and bite if another dog came up to him. I live in a dense community and if your dog is that sensitive and prone to attack, you probably shouldn’t have it at all.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:19     Subject: Re:Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, we have similar by our place, but pitbulls are banned where we live, so I don’t worry as much. Of course there can always be dogs who might be aggressive- so far no thankfully- but at least I don’t have to worry about a dog being killed by a Pitbull. A friends cat was killed by her pit bull and sorry, that’s all I need to know about that breed. They are not safe.


There are no "safe" dogs. All dogs can bite.


Of course, but some dogs are disproportionately associated with lethal attacks. The dogs in our area tend to be smaller dogs or friendly breeds. I don’t worry about them killing a small child or another dog


Again with the nonsense. You say "disproportionately", but you don't have a stat to back this claim. You don't have the total number of dogs by breed vs. the total number of bites by breed. Unless, of course, you do. I've been looking for this stat for a very long time now, and haven't found it, so if you've got it, by all means, links would be lovely.

Also? You say "the dogs in our area tend to be smaller or friendly breeds" but the other threads are all ranting "every dog is a pit mix". Which is it?

And you should worry about a chihuahua biting your kid. And a small dog can kill. There's no such thing as a "friendly breed" that never bites.

Ignorance is the biggest problem
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:18     Subject: Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Yes. Now that my sporting/hunting dog is too old for a dog park, we go to we a fenced in school field that allows dogs/doesn’t enforce on the weekends. One entrance, and only when there aren’t people using the field already. When she was young she used to love hiking and could explore the woods for hours. She had the best recall and would come zooming back from goodness knows how far away when we called. Then she lost her hearing and couldn’t hear us call her back, so she can only explore the woods in very limited circumstances now. But she loves the beach in the off season and is happy to play in the freezing ocean all year round.

It’s what she was bred for and after 14 years with her, I couldn’t imagine restricting her instincts like that.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:17     Subject: Do you let your dog off leash ever?

The Holiday season sure brings out the crazies. OP, admit it, you were looking for a fight.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:17     Subject: Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.thesun.ie/news/13237882/plastic-surgeon-restricted-dogs-ban-attack-psychological-damage/


What a classic example of a breed ban that doesn't solve the problem it's trying to solve. What kind of dog bite doesn't cause psychological damage? How many people don't like dogs because they were bitten as children? Were all those biting dogs "banned breeds"? No.

This is exactly the point. All dogs can bite. If you want fewer bites, you need more responsible owners.

Make an exam requirement to obtain a dog license. Increase the fines for off-leash dogs, etc. and use the funds to pay for more animal control officers. Remove the "two bite rule" and make it "one bite and you're out", encouraging owners to both better train and better contain their animals. Ban retractable leashes and other useless/dangerous equipment.

Those things would solve the problem. Breed bans only attempt to solve the PR problem some breeds have, when all breeds bite and any breed off-leash in public is a liability.


So you would ban dog parks?
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:16     Subject: Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never do! But I regularly see people doing this, which makes it so difficult when I’m walking my dog. Their dog inevitably comes after mine.

People get so testy if you ask “is that your dog?”


Is your dog aggressive?


FAFO, clown. If you care, leash your dog and keep it away from mine.


What kind of dog do you have?
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:16     Subject: Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:https://www.thesun.ie/news/13237882/plastic-surgeon-restricted-dogs-ban-attack-psychological-damage/


What a classic example of a breed ban that doesn't solve the problem it's trying to solve. What kind of dog bite doesn't cause psychological damage? How many people don't like dogs because they were bitten as children? Were all those biting dogs "banned breeds"? No.

This is exactly the point. All dogs can bite. If you want fewer bites, you need more responsible owners.

Make an exam requirement to obtain a dog license. Increase the fines for off-leash dogs, etc. and use the funds to pay for more animal control officers. Remove the "two bite rule" and make it "one bite and you're out", encouraging owners to both better train and better contain their animals. Ban retractable leashes and other useless/dangerous equipment.

Those things would solve the problem. Breed bans only attempt to solve the PR problem some breeds have, when all breeds bite and any breed off-leash in public is a liability.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:15     Subject: Re:Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, we have similar by our place, but pitbulls are banned where we live, so I don’t worry as much. Of course there can always be dogs who might be aggressive- so far no thankfully- but at least I don’t have to worry about a dog being killed by a Pitbull. A friends cat was killed by her pit bull and sorry, that’s all I need to know about that breed. They are not safe.


Is Ireland stupid because they are looking to ban pit bull breeds?

My sister's cat was killed by their Australian Shepherd. He was an energetic dog who was neglected as a puppy because like a lot of irresponsible dog owners, they adopted the dog and then lost interest in him when they had kids. So he was never properly trained and became highly aggressive. The dog killed the cat in the house when the cat was just sitting on the arm of a couch. Maybe the cat moved in a way that upset the dog or maybe the dog just lost its mind. Who knows.

I don't even like pit bulls and would never ever adopt one, but it's training and caring for dogs that is most important. A lot of pit bull owners don't care for their dogs (or even specifically train them to be aggressive) which sucks. But they are far from the only dog owners who do this. And there are good pit owners too, even if the breed tends to attract crappy owners.


Australian shepherds aren’t banned where I live. But pits are. Do you think there’s a reason for that?


Stupid people thinking breed bans work to prevent dog bites, which they don't.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:14     Subject: Re:Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, we have similar by our place, but pitbulls are banned where we live, so I don’t worry as much. Of course there can always be dogs who might be aggressive- so far no thankfully- but at least I don’t have to worry about a dog being killed by a Pitbull. A friends cat was killed by her pit bull and sorry, that’s all I need to know about that breed. They are not safe.


There are no "safe" dogs. All dogs can bite.


Of course, but some dogs are disproportionately associated with lethal attacks. The dogs in our area tend to be smaller dogs or friendly breeds. I don’t worry about them killing a small child or another dog
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:11     Subject: Re:Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, we have similar by our place, but pitbulls are banned where we live, so I don’t worry as much. Of course there can always be dogs who might be aggressive- so far no thankfully- but at least I don’t have to worry about a dog being killed by a Pitbull. A friends cat was killed by her pit bull and sorry, that’s all I need to know about that breed. They are not safe.


My sister's cat was killed by their Australian Shepherd. He was an energetic dog who was neglected as a puppy because like a lot of irresponsible dog owners, they adopted the dog and then lost interest in him when they had kids. So he was never properly trained and became highly aggressive. The dog killed the cat in the house when the cat was just sitting on the arm of a couch. Maybe the cat moved in a way that upset the dog or maybe the dog just lost its mind. Who knows.

I don't even like pit bulls and would never ever adopt one, but it's training and caring for dogs that is most important. A lot of pit bull owners don't care for their dogs (or even specifically train them to be aggressive) which sucks. But they are far from the only dog owners who do this. And there are good pit owners too, even if the breed tends to attract crappy owners.


Australian shepherds aren’t banned where I live. But pits are. Do you think there’s a reason for that?


Stupid people thinking breed bans work to prevent dog bites, which they don't.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:09     Subject: Re:Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, we have similar by our place, but pitbulls are banned where we live, so I don’t worry as much. Of course there can always be dogs who might be aggressive- so far no thankfully- but at least I don’t have to worry about a dog being killed by a Pitbull. A friends cat was killed by her pit bull and sorry, that’s all I need to know about that breed. They are not safe.


There are no "safe" dogs. All dogs can bite.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:09     Subject: Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never do! But I regularly see people doing this, which makes it so difficult when I’m walking my dog. Their dog inevitably comes after mine.

People get so testy if you ask “is that your dog?”


Is your dog aggressive?


FAFO, clown. If you care, leash your dog and keep it away from mine.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:08     Subject: Do you let your dog off leash ever?
Anonymous wrote:I never do! But I regularly see people doing this, which makes it so difficult when I’m walking my dog. Their dog inevitably comes after mine.

People get so testy if you ask “is that your dog?”


Kick it. If it's close enough to your foot, kick it. That's WAY too close.