28 miles is far! That’s like Leesburg to DC. No one is doing that, especially when there’s so many jobs closer by.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But isn't the collaboration so wonderful and worth it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/1hhlfuh/just_got_home_from_a_330_hour_commute_over_28/

Nothing like subjecting your employees to the mental torture of a nightmarish daily commute, just so crappy middle managers can justify their existence in the office.

Public transit in CA is awful. Everyone drives and is stuck in traffic jams constantly. It feels like one of the many hypocrisies of CA liberals -- let's live in an urban environment but not actually give up driving.

Well that and severely restricting new housing developments due to NIMBY. People are forced to the exurbs bc God forbid anyone sell their house due to Prop 19. No homes for sale no new homes built.

People live in suburbs of DC like Gaithersburg and commute to DC. 20+ miles each way. Are you telling us that you have to live next door to your office to call it close to the office?

A 28 mile commute is not close to the office. GMAB

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you didn't even read the title of the post on Reddit.

3:30 hour commute over 28 miles

The person does live close in to the office, but the commute is horrendous.

Being stuck in traffic that long is really physically taxing.

When I lived in D.C., the commute was tolerable because of public transit. You could at least read or listen to music or get exercise by walking.

The mistake is calling it. 28 mile commute. It’s the time it takes, not the distance. They knew they were going to have that commute if their job ever went back to in-person. They took the risk it wouldn’t. I don’t know anyone who could do that commute. They will have to change jobs or move.

A 28 mile commute is very close in to the office. How close should a person live? In the office closet with his red stapler? They need to find another way to commute besides car. I can't believe people are still driving one person to a car. Find people to car pool with. Advocate for a shuttle service.

At least in D.C., some of the apartments had a shuttle to the Pentagon metro, like from Shirlington. The apartments in D.C. and Arlington were pleasant places to live. Free coffee, tea, and donuts in the morning. Elegant surroundings. Ability to pay a dog sitter or dog walker to come in and walk my dog during the day. I shared a dog walker with another two neighbors.

Anonymous wrote:Some of you didn't even read the title of the post on Reddit.

3:30 hour commute over 28 miles

The person does live close in to the office, but the commute is horrendous.

Being stuck in traffic that long is really physically taxing.

When I lived in D.C., the commute was tolerable because of public transit. You could at least read or listen to music or get exercise by walking.

The mistake is calling it. 28 mile commute. It’s the time it takes, not the distance. They knew they were going to have that commute if their job ever went back to in-person. They took the risk it wouldn’t. I don’t know anyone who could do that commute. They will have to change jobs or move.

Some of you didn't even read the title of the post on Reddit.

3:30 hour commute over 28 miles

The person does live close in to the office, but the commute is horrendous.

Being stuck in traffic that long is really physically taxing.

When I lived in D.C., the commute was tolerable because of public transit. You could at least read or listen to music or get exercise by walking.

Anonymous wrote:You people are heartless. What should be a 45 min or less commute has tripled. Thats awful. Maybe pay folks a proper wage and they don’t have to live far.

Traffic in the Bay Area and la has been awful for decades, as has been the case for housing. There are plenty of other areas in the country to live.

Anonymous wrote:You people are heartless. What should be a 45 min or less commute has tripled. Thats awful. Maybe pay folks a proper wage and they don’t have to live far.

it’s not the wage. It’s the lack of housing and public transport.

You people are heartless. What should be a 45 min or less commute has tripled. Thats awful. Maybe pay folks a proper wage and they don’t have to live far.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But isn't the collaboration so wonderful and worth it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/1hhlfuh/just_got_home_from_a_330_hour_commute_over_28/

Nothing like subjecting your employees to the mental torture of a nightmarish daily commute, just so crappy middle managers can justify their existence in the office.

Public transit in CA is awful. Everyone drives and is stuck in traffic jams constantly. It feels like one of the many hypocrisies of CA liberals -- let's live in an urban environment but not actually give up driving.

There’s an entire city right there that is currently underutilized. They don’t even have to build mass transit, it’s already there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are they living so far from their work place? Seems self inflected.

They don’t live far from work. The traffic in the San Jose area is horrendous even on weekends and holidays.

This is a dc forum. Why did op post something about California traffic?

Maybe it was - but, that's clearly not the case with all university/sports discussions that bring in a nationwide audience. Why does it matter what people post about if it generates a good discussion?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But isn't the collaboration so wonderful and worth it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/1hhlfuh/just_got_home_from_a_330_hour_commute_over_28/

Nothing like subjecting your employees to the mental torture of a nightmarish daily commute, just so crappy middle managers can justify their existence in the office.

Public transit in CA is awful. Everyone drives and is stuck in traffic jams constantly. It feels like one of the many hypocrisies of CA liberals -- let's live in an urban environment but not actually give up driving.

Employees need to vote with their feet. Some companies have moved to Phoenix, Austin or even Ohio due to high cost of living and commutes in California. But lots of employers stay because so many of the young educated employees want that hip urban environment. They don’t want to graduate started and move to Ohio or even Bakersfield. Trust me it’s not the middle managers that wants this—they are the ones with the worst commutes trying to pay for college tuition and elder care for their parents.

Anonymous wrote:But isn't the collaboration so wonderful and worth it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/1hhlfuh/just_got_home_from_a_330_hour_commute_over_28/

Nothing like subjecting your employees to the mental torture of a nightmarish daily commute, just so crappy middle managers can justify their existence in the office.

Public transit in CA is awful. Everyone drives and is stuck in traffic jams constantly. It feels like one of the many hypocrisies of CA liberals -- let's live in an urban environment but not actually give up driving.

Anonymous wrote:But isn't the collaboration so wonderful and worth it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/1hhlfuh/just_got_home_from_a_330_hour_commute_over_28/

Nothing like subjecting your employees to the mental torture of a nightmarish daily commute, just so crappy middle managers can justify their existence in the office.

The middle managers want to go home too. I think it comes from way above, the ones who don't actually have daily contact with the rank and file.