Anonymous
12/18/2024 12:41
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I fear for anyone stupid enough to take that literally. A solid marriage is an equal partnership, not split down the middle 50/50.
I like the idea of one partner is primarily responsible to bring home the bacon, while the other one’s primary responsibility is to manage the home. Neither one is better than the other. They both help and support each other.
What’s not to like?
You completely misunderstand the scripture if that's what you think that verse means.
The Bible clearly states that wives are to submit to their husbands' leadership. So, what he decides is the final say. He is also supposed to be the spiritual leader. Basically, women are second-class citizens and not equal partners.
But if the husband is the spiritual leader, he is commanded to put his wife's needs above his own. So, she turns out just fine.
Right, because men always do the right thing. That's why prisons are so full of women.
Anonymous
12/18/2024 12:39
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:The world absolutely runs better when women are submissive
Runs better for whom?
Anonymous
12/18/2024 12:26
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We went to wedding this weekend where the main reading was “wives submit to your husbands”.
I fear for that bride.
That’s good advice. It’s in the Bible and things work better in marriages where this is the case. No one respects lippy women. Know your place and be demure.
Tell us what a 'lippy' woman is? Are we not people? Do we not deserve to have opinions? Wants? needs?
Anonymous
12/18/2024 12:25
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:The world absolutely runs better when women are submissive
The majority of men are in power and yet the world is still a mess.
Anonymous
12/18/2024 12:23
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:I fear for anyone stupid enough to take that literally. A solid marriage is an equal partnership, not split down the middle 50/50.
I like the idea of one partner is primarily responsible to bring home the bacon, while the other one’s primary responsibility is to manage the home. Neither one is better than the other. They both help and support each other.
What’s not to like?
As long is it is not given who 'brings home the bacon' and who stays home. But let's face it the SAHP isn't seen as helping and supporting by society at large
Anonymous
12/18/2024 12:18
Subject: Re:“Wives submit to your husbands”
Here we go with the SAH/WOH wars again.
the Bible ver5se quoted has nothing to do with that. Do you think the preacher meant "submit to your husband UNLESS you decide to get a job." FFS with you people.
the Bible ver5se quoted has nothing to do with that. Do you think the preacher meant "submit to your husband UNLESS you decide to get a job." FFS with you people.
Anonymous
12/18/2024 12:15
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I fear for anyone stupid enough to take that literally. A solid marriage is an equal partnership, not split down the middle 50/50.
I like the idea of one partner is primarily responsible to bring home the bacon, while the other one’s primary responsibility is to manage the home. Neither one is better than the other. They both help and support each other.
What’s not to like?
This only works if you go back to the "good old days" where wives were fine essentially being treated like the help and you never left your husband over affairs, physical abuse, etc. Also, it's not easy to find a husband that brings in a ton of bacon that is looking for this kind of wife (who tends to not be college educated or ever had a real career to start).
Duel career parents have to farm out their parenting responsibilities. It takes a lot more than bacon for children to have a healthy childhood. Who exactly loves your child as much as you do?
Most young people these days are suffering with extreme alienation. Why?
Oh FFS please don't turn this into another SAH vs WOH battles. PLEASE!!!! This has nothing to do with that.
Please stop with the SAH fat lie. No one stays at home unless you’re on your death bed. The SAH term was concocted by absentee mothers just to make themselves feel better about dropping their babies off at daycare. Again, no parent stays at home.
Are they raising these children on the street? Inside of Starbucks? Stop being purposefully obtuse and arguing about nothing.
Check your compression. I said daycare, complete strangers to whom you entrust your little child for 8-10 hours a day, most often 50 hours every week.
What do the biological parents get? Rushed breakfast, dinner, bedtime, and exhausting weekends overpacked with too much to do. And you ask why so many kids are struggling with mental and cognitive disabilities?
Perhaps degrading the traditional family structure is a big mistake?
To be clear, I am all for anyone who wants to prioritize a demanding career over children. But let’s be honest. No one person gets to do a good job at both at the same time.
It’s all to easy, and socially acceptable to outsource the most essential early years of your child’s life. Children grow up knowing if that was a career choice, or simply the only way to put food on the table.
Of course we love our children, but when they don’t FEEL loved, it’s time to ask why.
Oh my compression is fine, just got new socks this weekend. Thanks.
How is your COMPREHENSION though? I was responding to your asinine claim that the term SAH was concocted by absentee mothers who would rather work than take care of their kids. So if you choose to not work, where are you raiding the children if not that at home? So you are staying at home FFS.
Also, maybe you should check your privilege. Most American families are struggling to cover basic costs even with two incomes, much less a single one. For majority of the people it's not a choice. They HAVE to work you dimwit. And they are better off for it and so are their kids.
Anonymous
12/18/2024 12:14
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I fear for anyone stupid enough to take that literally. A solid marriage is an equal partnership, not split down the middle 50/50.
I like the idea of one partner is primarily responsible to bring home the bacon, while the other one’s primary responsibility is to manage the home. Neither one is better than the other. They both help and support each other.
What’s not to like?
This only works if you go back to the "good old days" where wives were fine essentially being treated like the help and you never left your husband over affairs, physical abuse, etc. Also, it's not easy to find a husband that brings in a ton of bacon that is looking for this kind of wife (who tends to not be college educated or ever had a real career to start).
Duel career parents have to farm out their parenting responsibilities. It takes a lot more than bacon for children to have a healthy childhood. Who exactly loves your child as much as you do?
Most young people these days are suffering with extreme alienation. Why?
Oh FFS please don't turn this into another SAH vs WOH battles. PLEASE!!!! This has nothing to do with that.
Please stop with the SAH fat lie. No one stays at home unless you’re on your death bed. The SAH term was concocted by absentee mothers just to make themselves feel better about dropping their babies off at daycare. Again, no parent stays at home.
Are they raising these children on the street? Inside of Starbucks? Stop being purposefully obtuse and arguing about nothing.
Check your compression. I said daycare, complete strangers to whom you entrust your little child for 8-10 hours a day, most often 50 hours every week.
What do the biological parents get? Rushed breakfast, dinner, bedtime, and exhausting weekends overpacked with too much to do. And you ask why so many kids are struggling with mental and cognitive disabilities?
Perhaps degrading the traditional family structure is a big mistake?
To be clear, I am all for anyone who wants to prioritize a demanding career over children. But let’s be honest. No one person gets to do a good job at both at the same time.
It’s all to easy, and socially acceptable to outsource the most essential early years of your child’s life. Children grow up knowing if that was a career choice, or simply the only way to put food on the table.
Of course we love our children, but when they don’t FEEL loved, it’s time to ask why.
I know plenty of SAHMs who are lousy parents. I work and my kids are well-adjusted and lovely. You do you and save your BS.
Anonymous
12/18/2024 12:10
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
11:55, It sounds like your mother lacked the essential competence component for whatever reason. It’s good that at least she found a good daycare for you.
Sometimes when I see a struggling, exhausted parent, I’ll mention,
Your children are beautiful… parenting is the hardest, but most important job there is.
I want them to know, they aren’t alone. I am grateful for their sacrifice. We all need the next generation of well-parented citizens. We are all obligated to do our best.
Sometimes when I see a struggling, exhausted parent, I’ll mention,
Your children are beautiful… parenting is the hardest, but most important job there is.
I want them to know, they aren’t alone. I am grateful for their sacrifice. We all need the next generation of well-parented citizens. We are all obligated to do our best.
Anonymous
12/18/2024 12:05
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I fear for anyone stupid enough to take that literally. A solid marriage is an equal partnership, not split down the middle 50/50.
I like the idea of one partner is primarily responsible to bring home the bacon, while the other one’s primary responsibility is to manage the home. Neither one is better than the other. They both help and support each other.
What’s not to like?
This only works if you go back to the "good old days" where wives were fine essentially being treated like the help and you never left your husband over affairs, physical abuse, etc. Also, it's not easy to find a husband that brings in a ton of bacon that is looking for this kind of wife (who tends to not be college educated or ever had a real career to start).
Duel career parents have to farm out their parenting responsibilities. It takes a lot more than bacon for children to have a healthy childhood. Who exactly loves your child as much as you do?
Most young people these days are suffering with extreme alienation. Why?
I'm sorry that you or your children grew up in such a cold, uncaring community where only your most immediate relatives showed you love.
Anonymous
12/18/2024 11:55
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I fear for anyone stupid enough to take that literally. A solid marriage is an equal partnership, not split down the middle 50/50.
I like the idea of one partner is primarily responsible to bring home the bacon, while the other one’s primary responsibility is to manage the home. Neither one is better than the other. They both help and support each other.
What’s not to like?
This only works if you go back to the "good old days" where wives were fine essentially being treated like the help and you never left your husband over affairs, physical abuse, etc. Also, it's not easy to find a husband that brings in a ton of bacon that is looking for this kind of wife (who tends to not be college educated or ever had a real career to start).
Duel career parents have to farm out their parenting responsibilities. It takes a lot more than bacon for children to have a healthy childhood. Who exactly loves your child as much as you do?
Most young people these days are suffering with extreme alienation. Why?
There is a difference between two dual-career parents that decide one should SAH vs. a woman who has decided that is her life when she is 18. I don't know any dual career parents that would have that reading at their wedding...even if one decides to SAH.
There are tons of young people with a SAH parent that suffer from alienation...so you to tell me who is to blame? It's not something that is unique to any parenting style.
The other thing that also seems to be conveniently forgotten is a high percentage of people are SAH because they don't like their job. It's not because they have some lofty parenting ambition. There are many very high powered dual-career parenting examples where neither has to continue working ever again...yet they both continue to do so.
Healthy early childhood development demands three components: stability, competence, and love. What daycare, or even nanny, will give this to your child?
I was better off in day care. My mom didn't enjoy being a mom and never really put much effort into us as my dad was her prioity (and they are divorced now). She was better off working. Given my child's needs, we are far better off with me at home. There is no one fit.
Anonymous
12/18/2024 11:53
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I fear for anyone stupid enough to take that literally. A solid marriage is an equal partnership, not split down the middle 50/50.
I like the idea of one partner is primarily responsible to bring home the bacon, while the other one’s primary responsibility is to manage the home. Neither one is better than the other. They both help and support each other.
What’s not to like?
If you're not the person bringing home the bacon, you are at distinct disadvantage. You have less power. You have less ability to leave if the other person is abusive. You have fewer opportunities if the other partner dies. You have reduced retirement savings and social security.
Not true at all. I had savings pre-marriage and my husband puts money in my IRA's, etc. We have about equal savings. House and cars are in both our names. I have far more power as I handle the day to day money and make most of the money decisions. I don't really even consult him. I might mention something but that's it. He handles the investments. I had my full credits in by the time I was a SAH and can draw off my husband's social security. He is retiremed military so I have medical care as long as I stay married. You assume all marriages are bad or abusive.
I feel bad for you that you have a terrible marriage and cannot trust your spouse.
Anonymous
12/18/2024 11:50
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I fear for anyone stupid enough to take that literally. A solid marriage is an equal partnership, not split down the middle 50/50.
I like the idea of one partner is primarily responsible to bring home the bacon, while the other one’s primary responsibility is to manage the home. Neither one is better than the other. They both help and support each other.
What’s not to like?
You completely misunderstand the scripture if that's what you think that verse means.
The Bible clearly states that wives are to submit to their husbands' leadership. So, what he decides is the final say. He is also supposed to be the spiritual leader. Basically, women are second-class citizens and not equal partners.
But if the husband is the spiritual leader, he is commanded to put his wife's needs above his own. So, she turns out just fine.
Anonymous
12/18/2024 11:49
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I fear for anyone stupid enough to take that literally. A solid marriage is an equal partnership, not split down the middle 50/50.
I like the idea of one partner is primarily responsible to bring home the bacon, while the other one’s primary responsibility is to manage the home. Neither one is better than the other. They both help and support each other.
What’s not to like?
This only works if you go back to the "good old days" where wives were fine essentially being treated like the help and you never left your husband over affairs, physical abuse, etc. Also, it's not easy to find a husband that brings in a ton of bacon that is looking for this kind of wife (who tends to not be college educated or ever had a real career to start).
Duel career parents have to farm out their parenting responsibilities. It takes a lot more than bacon for children to have a healthy childhood. Who exactly loves your child as much as you do?
Most young people these days are suffering with extreme alienation. Why?
There is a difference between two dual-career parents that decide one should SAH vs. a woman who has decided that is her life when she is 18. I don't know any dual career parents that would have that reading at their wedding...even if one decides to SAH.
There are tons of young people with a SAH parent that suffer from alienation...so you to tell me who is to blame? It's not something that is unique to any parenting style.
The other thing that also seems to be conveniently forgotten is a high percentage of people are SAH because they don't like their job. It's not because they have some lofty parenting ambition. There are many very high powered dual-career parenting examples where neither has to continue working ever again...yet they both continue to do so.
Healthy early childhood development demands three components: stability, competence, and love. What daycare, or even nanny, will give this to your child?
Anonymous
12/18/2024 11:40
Subject: “Wives submit to your husbands”
[twitter]
Check your compression. I said daycare, complete strangers to whom you entrust your little child for 8-10 hours a day, most often 50 hours every week.
What do the biological parents get? Rushed breakfast, dinner, bedtime, and exhausting weekends overpacked with too much to do. And you ask why so many kids are struggling with mental and cognitive disabilities?
Perhaps degrading the traditional family structure is a big mistake?
To be clear, I am all for anyone who wants to prioritize a demanding career over children. But let’s be honest. No one person gets to do a good job at both at the same time.
It’s all to easy, and socially acceptable to outsource the most essential early years of your child’s life. Children grow up knowing if that was a career choice, or simply the only way to put food on the table.
Of course we love our children, but when they don’t FEEL loved, it’s time to ask why.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I fear for anyone stupid enough to take that literally. A solid marriage is an equal partnership, not split down the middle 50/50.
I like the idea of one partner is primarily responsible to bring home the bacon, while the other one’s primary responsibility is to manage the home. Neither one is better than the other. They both help and support each other.
What’s not to like?
This only works if you go back to the "good old days" where wives were fine essentially being treated like the help and you never left your husband over affairs, physical abuse, etc. Also, it's not easy to find a husband that brings in a ton of bacon that is looking for this kind of wife (who tends to not be college educated or ever had a real career to start).
Duel career parents have to farm out their parenting responsibilities. It takes a lot more than bacon for children to have a healthy childhood. Who exactly loves your child as much as you do?
Most young people these days are suffering with extreme alienation. Why?
Oh FFS please don't turn this into another SAH vs WOH battles. PLEASE!!!! This has nothing to do with that.
Please stop with the SAH fat lie. No one stays at home unless you’re on your death bed. The SAH term was concocted by absentee mothers just to make themselves feel better about dropping their babies off at daycare. Again, no parent stays at home.
Are they raising these children on the street? Inside of Starbucks? Stop being purposefully obtuse and arguing about nothing.
Check your compression. I said daycare, complete strangers to whom you entrust your little child for 8-10 hours a day, most often 50 hours every week.
What do the biological parents get? Rushed breakfast, dinner, bedtime, and exhausting weekends overpacked with too much to do. And you ask why so many kids are struggling with mental and cognitive disabilities?
Perhaps degrading the traditional family structure is a big mistake?
To be clear, I am all for anyone who wants to prioritize a demanding career over children. But let’s be honest. No one person gets to do a good job at both at the same time.
It’s all to easy, and socially acceptable to outsource the most essential early years of your child’s life. Children grow up knowing if that was a career choice, or simply the only way to put food on the table.
Of course we love our children, but when they don’t FEEL loved, it’s time to ask why.