I have not read any Alice Munro.

The police did nothing even though they had evidence.

Anonymous wrote:I never liked her work that much despite trying many times over the years. Too humorless, perhaps, and it was always a chore to get to the end of a story even though it seemed well told. Now I feel validated in my lack of affection for her.

Same here. Her voice left me cold-- but I think "chore" is the right word.

Knowing that some of her stories dealt with sexual abuse makes me want to vomit.

thanks for the gift link. I just skimmed it.

For those asking - I think the news in July was exactly that -the news. This is a deeper dive into that news, after exhaustive interviews and analysis of her writings (published and letters).

It's a terribly sad and not at all uncommon tale. secrets and lies on a grotesque scale.

I would have a hard time reading any Alice Munro now. And if I had any of her books, I don't think I'd donate them - I think I'd trash them.

Separating art from artist is always tricky, and I think people have to make their own distinctions. Michael jackson, for ex, made art that wasn't about pedophilia. Alice Munro's art often is a loosely fictional account of what was happening in her life. For me, it's now impossible to separate.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s so much wonderful literature out in the world. It’s ok to toss the ones who condone child sexual abuse and read other people.

It doesn’t mean her work wasn’t good. It just means we have choices of how we spend our money and how libraries spend their money. It shouldn’t be on her work.

I don't know. I agree that separating the artist from the art is difficult when they are alive - by supporting the art you are also supporting the artist. But she is dead.
I am sure many great artists have done awful things that we don't even know about. I am in no way condoning what she - or anyone else - did. But I enjoyed her work before we knew about any of this. And I wouldn't rule out reading her work again, though I admit it does make me think twice.

She likened her daughter's sexual abuse as being similar to forgiving her husband for an extra martial affair. That is disordered thinking.

I am burning my books tonight. I do not want them to be enjoyed by anyone.

Just recycle them, jfc

Nah I’d rather put them to good use and feed the fireplace.

There are still going to be people who want to read her work, though. So they'll either buy one of her books new (royalties) or check one out of the library, which has to pay for it.

I am with you on getting rid of her books, not because I think anyone needs to be perfect but because knowing how she feels about the sexual assault of children is going to affect how I read her work, and not for the better.

Anonymous wrote:Michael Jackson's exposure generated a lot of similar conflicts amongst his fans.

I cringe when I hear his music now. I can't help it.

Anonymous wrote:Should our artists be perfect people? Gee I hope not! Art does not come from well adjusted people living easy happy lives!

That article made me re-read Runaway today. Love it.

No one’s asking her to be a perfect person, just to protect her daughter from pedophiles. Is that really too much to ask?

I know she died recently, but I feel differently about authors/artists with this kind of bad behavior than I do about authors at more of a remove. She's my mother's age, and I feel like I know that there was plenty of societal support and education for not accepting this sort of behavior. She should have defended her daughter.

I have loved some of her books, but I won't read or purchase any moving forward. I already donated the ones I had after the story broke earlier this year.

Anonymous wrote:Michael Jackson's exposure generated a lot of similar conflicts amongst his fans.

and yet all the funds he depleted are restored thru posthumous record sales...

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/08/magazine/alice-munro-andrea-skinner-abuse.html?unlocked_article_code=1.gU4.IYQo.iyWDaNPVLnzJ&smid=url-share

Michael Jackson's exposure generated a lot of similar conflicts amongst his fans.

You are morons.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s so much wonderful literature out in the world. It’s ok to toss the ones who condone child sexual abuse and read other people.

It doesn’t mean her work wasn’t good. It just means we have choices of how we spend our money and how libraries spend their money. It shouldn’t be on her work.

I don't know. I agree that separating the artist from the art is difficult when they are alive - by supporting the art you are also supporting the artist. But she is dead.
I am sure many great artists have done awful things that we don't even know about. I am in no way condoning what she - or anyone else - did. But I enjoyed her work before we knew about any of this. And I wouldn't rule out reading her work again, though I admit it does make me think twice.

She likened her daughter's sexual abuse as being similar to forgiving her husband for an extra martial affair. That is disordered thinking.

I am burning my books tonight. I do not want them to be enjoyed by anyone.

Just recycle them, jfc

Nah I’d rather put them to good use and feed the fireplace.

I'm with you. She is so evil and so vile, keeping her books pollutes the environment around them. I would want to destroy them. She had no problem destroying her own child. Both she and her second pedophile husband blamed a 9 year old for her sexual abuse. Munro's wonderful husband admitted how he abused his step daughter but called the 9 year old a homewrecker. Munro agreed.


Separating the art from the artist... my azz.

Anonymous wrote:There’s so much wonderful literature out in the world. It’s ok to toss the ones who condone child sexual abuse and read other people.

It doesn’t mean her work wasn’t good. It just means we have choices of how we spend our money and how libraries spend their money. It shouldn’t be on her work.

This is how I feel. As consumers, we vote with our wallet.