Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:45
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.
See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.
It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.
So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"
I didn't start this thread about Trump at Notre Dame. Blame that on the op.
Why should I blame the OP? The thread is in the political forum so of course it's appropriate to discuss Trump at Notre-Dame ceremony. You were negative about Trump when you wrote that he couldn't ruin the day (why would you think he could ruin the day in the first place unless you have a pre-conceived negative opinion about him?). Then you proceeded to mention his mortality. Sure, everyone dies, but why mention it during a happy occasion? I'm sure you don't go around at a wedding and say the happy couple will outlive their parents, right? You do have more common sense than that, right?
You act like there was some secret message here. I don't think Trump's presence at this ceremony elevates him or this country or the cathedral. I think it's blatant pandering because that's how you get what you want from this guy. You think it's impressive in some way. We disagree and that's allowed. It's a forum.
You're allowed to say whatever you want but just don't deny that the original comment was negative. We see respect, you see pandering. That's fine. But that's negative.
It is pandering. Why don't you wake up. You may see pandering as positive and I may see it as negative, but pandering is pandering. Trump's personality is really not that complex.
You first talked about being allowed an opinion to which I wholeheartedly agreed. You can share your opinion all you want but remember it's just your opinion, not others'. You can't tell me to wake up and insist that I and others see things your way and agree that it is pandering. I have the right to my own opinion as much as you have to yours. You talk a big talk about being free to express your opinion but as soon as people disagree with you, you tell them to wake up as if they were stupid.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:40
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
OP is a sycophant of Trump. Hey OP why don’t you run a long over to stormfront or Fox News with you propaganda.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:38
Subject: Re:Trump in France w world leaders
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Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:32
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Watching the meeting between Trump and Macron in the Élsyée Palace. It’s decorated for Christmas, beautiful. (Not live, recorded from earlier today.)
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:32
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.
See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.
It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.
So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"
I didn't start this thread about Trump at Notre Dame. Blame that on the op.
Why should I blame the OP? The thread is in the political forum so of course it's appropriate to discuss Trump at Notre-Dame ceremony. You were negative about Trump when you wrote that he couldn't ruin the day (why would you think he could ruin the day in the first place unless you have a pre-conceived negative opinion about him?). Then you proceeded to mention his mortality. Sure, everyone dies, but why mention it during a happy occasion? I'm sure you don't go around at a wedding and say the happy couple will outlive their parents, right? You do have more common sense than that, right?
You act like there was some secret message here. I don't think Trump's presence at this ceremony elevates him or this country or the cathedral. I think it's blatant pandering because that's how you get what you want from this guy. You think it's impressive in some way. We disagree and that's allowed. It's a forum.
You're allowed to say whatever you want but just don't deny that the original comment was negative. We see respect, you see pandering. That's fine. But that's negative.
It is pandering. Why don't you wake up. You may see pandering as positive and I may see it as negative, but pandering is pandering. Trump's personality is really not that complex.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:30
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
I find this funny. Trump IS a freak show. In the first term, he was generally regarded with disdain. Boorish. Crude. Stupid. Bad American. And so on. Europeans in particular felt completely free piling on Trump.
But I think now, world leaders respect this guy. One, he wasn't wrong about a lot of issues. And second, after suffering a loss that would usually send people into retirement, he came back. These are all politicians that understand the game. And the US is obviously the most powerful country on the planet. And it's a huge market. Every country wants good relations with the US.
There is no more disdain. They all understand Trump needs flattery and all that crap. It's like Louis XIV. Trump is the Sun King. And no one knows what he's going to do - but he's throwing out tariffs and national security issues that really impact a lot of countries. Really impactful things. But they all know being snide or disrespectful is going to cost their countries dearly. Trump is all about personal relationships. So all these presidents and prime ministers and even future kings are being very nice indeed.
Interesting moment in time.
But I think now, world leaders respect this guy. One, he wasn't wrong about a lot of issues. And second, after suffering a loss that would usually send people into retirement, he came back. These are all politicians that understand the game. And the US is obviously the most powerful country on the planet. And it's a huge market. Every country wants good relations with the US.
There is no more disdain. They all understand Trump needs flattery and all that crap. It's like Louis XIV. Trump is the Sun King. And no one knows what he's going to do - but he's throwing out tariffs and national security issues that really impact a lot of countries. Really impactful things. But they all know being snide or disrespectful is going to cost their countries dearly. Trump is all about personal relationships. So all these presidents and prime ministers and even future kings are being very nice indeed.
Interesting moment in time.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:28
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Thank you PP for again proving my point. Always finding something negative to say. Sigh...
Offhand, I can think of nothing positive to say about trump.
That would be a you problem.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:26
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.
See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.
It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.
So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"
Because Trump wants all the attention on him. He doesn't give a damn about Notre Dame but he knows he will be the center of attention for much of the free world's press.
Well at least he gives a damn a bit more than Biden who couldn't bother showing up.
I didn’t know Biden was invited. He should have gone. It’s a huge deal today in France.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:26
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
They are all scared. lol. Get at it Mr trump!
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:17
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:
As if you know what world leaders do in private.
They are treating everyone present with respect as the day is important for France, the people of France, and for the triumph of the restoration. You making it about world leaders laughing at Trump and stroking his ego (being normal, dignified, respectful world leaders) shows how obsessed and weird you are.
Sticks and stones!
Anonymous
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:15
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:
Thank you PP for again proving my point. Always finding something negative to say. Sigh...
Offhand, I can think of nothing positive to say about trump.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:13
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.
See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.
It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.
So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"
Because Trump wants all the attention on him. He doesn't give a damn about Notre Dame but he knows he will be the center of attention for much of the free world's press.
Well at least he gives a damn a bit more than Biden who couldn't bother showing up.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:13
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.
See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.
It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.
So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"
Because Trump wants all the attention on him. He doesn't give a damn about Notre Dame but he knows he will be the center of attention for much of the free world's press.
The anonymous dcum poster who knows the inner thoughts of Trump, and the secret, private lives of multiple world leaders.
Having an obsession with Trump and a parasocial relationship with him and world leaders is a you problem.
Anonymous
12/07/2024 16:11
Subject: Trump in France w world leaders
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.
See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.
It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.
So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"
I didn't start this thread about Trump at Notre Dame. Blame that on the op.
Why should I blame the OP? The thread is in the political forum so of course it's appropriate to discuss Trump at Notre-Dame ceremony. You were negative about Trump when you wrote that he couldn't ruin the day (why would you think he could ruin the day in the first place unless you have a pre-conceived negative opinion about him?). Then you proceeded to mention his mortality. Sure, everyone dies, but why mention it during a happy occasion? I'm sure you don't go around at a wedding and say the happy couple will outlive their parents, right? You do have more common sense than that, right?
You act like there was some secret message here. I don't think Trump's presence at this ceremony elevates him or this country or the cathedral. I think it's blatant pandering because that's how you get what you want from this guy. You think it's impressive in some way. We disagree and that's allowed. It's a forum.
You're allowed to say whatever you want but just don't deny that the original comment was negative. We see respect, you see pandering. That's fine. But that's negative.