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Anonymous wrote:White workingclass males are going to be disgusted with how trump and the billionares duped them, and they will realize the party that supports unions, healthcare, min wage and safer working conditions is the party actually looking out for their interests.

And that's the messaging Democrats should be promoting instead of far left agendas.

The Democratic party is not pushing a far left agenda. It's just college students and kids who are pushing this, like they always have but the right wing propaganda machine is magnifying its impact and duping people into voting against their own interests because of some silly college kids and their stupid words.

It really isn't just college kids. Look at the DC Council. Look at school boards in Montgomery or Fairfax counties. Look at the USAO office here. And then look at local governments everywhere - from San Francisco to Portland to Chicago to NY. Progressives are the core of the Democratic Party. That is people's every day experience with Democrats. It's local policies from crime to schools to section 8 housing to race-based hiring priorities. That's why Kamala Harris lost every swing state. National Democrats might be milquetoast. But at the local level, people are experiencing progressive policies. And they mostly hate it, which is why Democrats are losing support among every single demographic in America.

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Anonymous wrote:Many Latino voters are catholic and held conservative views on social issues. as such, they have never been "reliably" democrats by any stretch. Only with some DACAs and the anti-immigration rhetoric did it sway more to the left.

I have been talking to the Hispanic men who own small I use all the time. The older men voted for Harris. the younger men, including the son of one of the older men, voted for Trump. Why? All about the economy and how smart these kids are. One told me about his friend who started to work in a hotel during the pandemic when no one else wanted to work there. He sanitized the rooms that were used. The manager saw how well he did and continued to promote him. He is now the front end manager of the hotel and back in a local college finishing his undergrad degree. Another started a type of cleaning company when he finished high school in 2016 and it became very popular during the pandemic. He had too much business and could hire people to work for him. He sold it to a larger company, took the money, finished a degree and then bought back his company. All voted for Trump because they thought he would be best for the economy.

These are some of the "demographic" that voted for Trump. Not a fan of Trump and did not vote for him, but you asked who did.

Anyone who voted for Trump based on the economy is not really "smart". That shows a complete lack of understanding of all the forces that impact the economy and the negative impacts of Trumps proposed policies (tariffs anyone?) Probably admires Trumps "business acumen", too, meaning he is okay with cheating and doesn't care who gets hurt as long as he gets his.

Not someone to admire. That's who Trump voters are...not people to admire. Ignorance, selfishness, and unfeeling./uncaring/cold-hearted. But hey they make lots of money. FFS.

anyone that continues to push the Democratic agenda is not really "smart". it shows a complete lack of understanding of how the political process works. you have to win to make policy. otherwise you are just p'ssing in the wind.

not something to admire.

Anonymous wrote:Dems will sweep the 2026 mid- terms.

You Democlowns are too.much

Anonymous wrote:I think it will be hard to predict anything until Trump is gone. He’s a singular personality who, for some mysterious reason, draws people in. I’m not sure that a regular Republican would have moved all those needles in this past election.

+1 let’s not forget that from 2006-2016, people thought Republicans would never win another presidential election. The Republican primary voters couldn’t get it up for Haley or even DeSantis, who shares a lot of qualities with Trump. They just wanted Trump.

I think it will be hard to predict anything until Trump is gone. He’s a singular personality who, for some mysterious reason, draws people in. I’m not sure that a regular Republican would have moved all those needles in this past election.

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Anonymous wrote:White workingclass males are going to be disgusted with how trump and the billionares duped them, and they will realize the party that supports unions, healthcare, min wage and safer working conditions is the party actually looking out for their interests.

And that's the messaging Democrats should be promoting instead of far left agendas.

The Democratic party is not pushing a far left agenda. It's just college students and kids who are pushing this, like they always have but the right wing propaganda machine is magnifying its impact and duping people into voting against their own interests because of some silly college kids and their stupid words.

Riiight

Anonymous wrote:Something needs to be done to address the political balance in California and New York, as these states have a significant population of conservatives but lean heavily liberal in voting. Similarly, Virginia, which has conservative tendencies, is heavily influenced by a revolving door of government jobs in inner counties, creating a self-serving environment. This has led to a state-wide shift in favor of liberal policies. I believe measures such as redistricting, mass deportations, and removing government-funded industries that promote left-leaning ideologies, like big government, could help. This swamp-like system perpetuates an environment of self-serving jobs that exist only to sustain such policies.

NOVA is a stain on Virginia.

The only certainty is uncertainty. The party positions change so much that they become unrecognizable from what they were just a decade or two out.

Who thought the Republican Party would become a populist personality based party?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White workingclass males are going to be disgusted with how trump and the billionares duped them, and they will realize the party that supports unions, healthcare, min wage and safer working conditions is the party actually looking out for their interests.

And that's the messaging Democrats should be promoting instead of far left agendas.

The Democratic party is not pushing a far left agenda. It's just college students and kids who are pushing this, like they always have but the right wing propaganda machine is magnifying its impact and duping people into voting against their own interests because of some silly college kids and their stupid words.

Anonymous wrote:Something needs to be done to address the political balance in California and New York, as these states have a significant population of conservatives but lean heavily liberal in voting. Similarly, Virginia, which has conservative tendencies, is heavily influenced by a revolving door of government jobs in inner counties, creating a self-serving environment. This has led to a state-wide shift in favor of liberal policies. I believe measures such as redistricting, mass deportations, and removing government-funded industries that promote left-leaning ideologies, like big government, could help. This swamp-like system perpetuates an environment of self-serving jobs that exist only to sustain such policies.

What about states like Texas? It has a significant population of Democrats but always leans conservative in voting.

Anonymous wrote:White workingclass males are going to be disgusted with how trump and the billionares duped them, and they will realize the party that supports unions, healthcare, min wage and safer working conditions is the party actually looking out for their interests.

And that's the messaging Democrats should be promoting instead of far left agendas.

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Anonymous wrote:I think college educated voters will be next. There were a lot of moral superiority arguments being made before that just don’t hold water anymore.

I think so too. I think the Democratic Party used to be the culture of coolness for the educated but that’s not true anymore. Edginess has gone elsewhere.

Yes. Increasingly, Democrats are seen as the party of wealthy gatekeepers with clipboards. Do you share preferred pronouns in your emails? Do you use the term LatinX? Do you agree trans women are real women? Do you advocate for restorative justice? If you do not answer correctly, you are the enemy.

Younger people don't have a natural party affiliation. For them, Obama is something from the history books. They look at progressives today and see ideologically rigid bullies that will happily cancel and destroy anyone that dares question prevailing leftish social positions. And these days, progressives offer nothing at all when it comes to real issues like health care, the cost of living, or the environment.

I see it with my own college-aged kids. The Democratic brand is not strong. It's whiny, self-indulgent, and often very wrong on the issues young people experience every day - from chaotic schools to violent crime. But they've learned to keep their head down and not question Democrats publicly, because they can see online what the left does to anyone that disagrees with them. But generally, GenZ is not liking what they see among Democrats. I think as a group, GenZ is far more pragmatic and rooted in common sense than people give them credit for. And consequently, they are not identifying with Democrats anymore.

Something needs to be done to address the political balance in California and New York, as these states have a significant population of conservatives but lean heavily liberal in voting. Similarly, Virginia, which has conservative tendencies, is heavily influenced by a revolving door of government jobs in inner counties, creating a self-serving environment. This has led to a state-wide shift in favor of liberal policies. I believe measures such as redistricting, mass deportations, and removing government-funded industries that promote left-leaning ideologies, like big government, could help. This swamp-like system perpetuates an environment of self-serving jobs that exist only to sustain such policies.

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Anonymous wrote:Many Latino voters are catholic and held conservative views on social issues. as such, they have never been "reliably" democrats by any stretch. Only with some DACAs and the anti-immigration rhetoric did it sway more to the left.

I have been talking to the Hispanic men who own small I use all the time. The older men voted for Harris. the younger men, including the son of one of the older men, voted for Trump. Why? All about the economy and how smart these kids are. One told me about his friend who started to work in a hotel during the pandemic when no one else wanted to work there. He sanitized the rooms that were used. The manager saw how well he did and continued to promote him. He is now the front end manager of the hotel and back in a local college finishing his undergrad degree. Another started a type of cleaning company when he finished high school in 2016 and it became very popular during the pandemic. He had too much business and could hire people to work for him. He sold it to a larger company, took the money, finished a degree and then bought back his company. All voted for Trump because they thought he would be best for the economy.

These are some of the "demographic" that voted for Trump. Not a fan of Trump and did not vote for him, but you asked who did.

Anyone who voted for Trump based on the economy is not really "smart". That shows a complete lack of understanding of all the forces that impact the economy and the negative impacts of Trumps proposed policies (tariffs anyone?) Probably admires Trumps "business acumen", too, meaning he is okay with cheating and doesn't care who gets hurt as long as he gets his.

Not someone to admire. That's who Trump voters are...not people to admire. Ignorance, selfishness, and unfeeling./uncaring/cold-hearted. But hey they make lots of money. FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, Latino men voted for Trump in part because a woman was running. To act like this is a permanent shift is to misunderstand the dynamic.

You have never been around Hispanic men or women if you think the old stereotype of a woman being submissive to a man still holds. During the pandemic a lot shifted when the jobs Hispanic held were shut down and women in fields of daycare, cleaning, and other service providers became the top earners. Hispanic men respect women just fine. That's why they saw how lackluster Kamala Harris is and why they did not vote for her.

I never said hispanic women were submissive. I said hispanic men won't vote for a woman. See how those are different points?