Anonymous wrote:78% on CAPE math is at least really good. some students at almost every public elementary school have special needs, ESL, and/or learning challenges where you are not ever going to see a 100%. conversely, some students will get 4/5 at almost any school. one of the reasons basis has high scores is it advertises itself in a way that attracts a lot of higher scoring kids.

That's true (re: BASIS) but they also really teach a LOT of science (and math). I just helped my fifth grader study for a test last night and they had to know about valence electrons, which is something I didn't know about until high school.

Anonymous wrote:78% on CAPE math is at least really good. some students at almost every public elementary school have special needs, ESL, and/or learning challenges where you are not ever going to see a 100%. conversely, some students will get 4/5 at almost any school. one of the reasons basis has high scores is it advertises itself in a way that attracts a lot of higher scoring kids.

100% agree with this statement, and the fearmongering on the playgrounds and on DCUM ensures it stays that way. I was nervous sending my son this year, as I heard so many second person accounts of kids who left the school traumatized and of misery and tons of homework. We took a chance and are very happy with the school. Is it for everyone? Maybe not. But it's also not as hard core as people make it out to be.

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Anonymous wrote:I've looked at a handful of schools, and the science scores are across the board lower than ELA or math. I know it's a new test--and I know I've only looked at a few schools, but it does also say that on math and ELA, a 4 is "meets grade-level expectations," but for science, it's a 3.

I wonder if the science test needs to be redesigned to better reflect the curricula schools are teaching.

I think science only goes up to 4, there's no 5. Which is weird and makes comparison across subjects more difficult.

FWIW my kid got 4s on math and ELA, despite having gotten 5s on PARCC all prior years. Yet somehow she got a perfect score on the science CAPE. It's a mystery.

My kid at Banneker got 5s but a 2 in Science which is "approaching expectations". DC found the rest of CAPE easy but was unfamiliar with some/not all of the science. That said, their Biology teacher didnt report until 3rd quarter.

78% on CAPE math is at least really good. some students at almost every public elementary school have special needs, ESL, and/or learning challenges where you are not ever going to see a 100%. conversely, some students will get 4/5 at almost any school. one of the reasons basis has high scores is it advertises itself in a way that attracts a lot of higher scoring kids.

Anonymous wrote:You mean EH beat Hobson (barely)?

NO. Stuart Hobson way ahead:

Stuart Hobson
72.4% of students approached, met or exceeded expectations in ELA.
46.7% of students approached, met or exceeded expectations in Math.
47.4% of students met or exceeded expectations in ELA.
22.6% of students met or exceeded expectations in Math.


Eliot Hine

53.7% of students approached, met or exceeded expectations in ELA.
33.7% of students approached, met or exceeded expectations in Math.
34.9% of students met or exceeded expectations in ELA.
18.2% of students met or exceeded expectations in Math.

Anonymous wrote:Given that it's a sort of random formula, it is really interesting how much the Hill/Hill-adjacent ES accountability scores track popular wisdom with a few notable exceptions:

JO Wilson 98!!! (WOW)
Brent 86
SWS 84
Ludlow-Taylor 73
Payne 70 (tracking perceived rise)
Maury 65 (surprisingly low)
Chisholm 57
CHML 50
Watkins 32 (tracking perceived decline)
Van Ness 31
TR4 14 (ouch)
Miner 12
Amidon 12
TRY 4 (death spiral?)

There is overall high accountability at Brent which is great, but for being primarily an inbound elementary school, the academic achievement results seem "low":

63.3% of students met or exceeded expectations in ELA.
78.0% of students met or exceeded expectations in Math.
42.9% of students met or exceeded expectations in Science.

How are people feeling about Upper School model and about an increase in the out of bound population once the new school is built? I assume these factors will impact the results.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe have BASIS run the training?

Basis is a large for-profit network which some people love and some people hate. While no one disputes that they are solvent and get high test scores, I would personally argue that, unless you make every single charter school part of a large network and operate it for-profit (both of which are not-ideal models in my opinion), then you are not comparing apples to apples. Also, the local people who run BASIS are not the people you would bring in to run such a training as they are not really running the schools. It's a top-down cult-like leadership model there with charismatic leaders who may or may not some day be viewed quite poorly.

Maybe have BASIS run the training?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/12/05/dc-council-charter-school-training/

The D.C. Council is set to consider a measure that would mandate training for officials who run the city’s more than five dozen charter school networks, the latest fallout from the abrupt closure of a school just days before classes were to start.

I think they motivate to close a school when they feel like it's not salvageable and to keep it open only enables a mid-year collapse or invites financial shenanigans.

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Anonymous wrote:Charters up for review/renewal this year, with their percentile Accountability Score (excluding adult and alternative)

Capital Village: 7% (this means in the 7th percentile of all DC schools for the grades served)
Girls Global 22%
I Dream n/a
Social Justice 6%
Sojourner Truth 49% middle, 60% high school

Washington Global 96% (WOW)

Appletree n/a
Bridges 4%
Early Childhood PCS n/a
Hope Community 0% elementary, 0% middle
Howard Middle 25%
Bethune 59% elementary, 74% middle

Cap City 25% elementary, 10% middle, 42% high school
Paul 67% middle, 75% high school
IDEA 6%

The big question is whether the charter board will do something for the reviews this school year given CAPE and OSSE data or if they will wait the next crop of school are up next year when they will have scores being produced from their new PMF system called ASPIRE. It just doesn't seem like they will do anything this year. Maybe if a school up for review this year is both low scoring on OSSE's DC report card and there are other issues like finances or low enrollment -- that might push the charter board to act.

I think Capital Village and Hope Community both meet that definition. Low score on the report card, financial issues, and low enrollment. If they aren't forced to close they may collapse.

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Anonymous wrote:Impressive results from BASIS DC...tops in DC, even though they are 100% lottery...higher than Walls, which cherry picks its own students

Science scores

BASIS DC [MS and US]

3: 58.9%
4: 6.0%

Walls

3: 45.5%
4: 2.6%

Latin MS

3: 34.7%
4: 3.1%

Latin US

3: 29.2%
4: <5%

DCI [MS and US]

3: suppressed
4: <1%

If you were actually happy with BASIS you wouldn't be constantly posting this kind of thing.

Huh?

No affiliation with Basis but clearly they CRUSHED it.

We should all celebrate success.

Anonymous wrote:Charters up for review/renewal this year, with their percentile Accountability Score (excluding adult and alternative)

Capital Village: 7% (this means in the 7th percentile of all DC schools for the grades served)
Girls Global 22%
I Dream n/a
Social Justice 6%
Sojourner Truth 49% middle, 60% high school

Washington Global 96% (WOW)

Appletree n/a
Bridges 4%
Early Childhood PCS n/a
Hope Community 0% elementary, 0% middle
Howard Middle 25%
Bethune 59% elementary, 74% middle

Cap City 25% elementary, 10% middle, 42% high school
Paul 67% middle, 75% high school
IDEA 6%

The big question is whether the charter board will do something for the reviews this school year given CAPE and OSSE data or if they will wait the next crop of school are up next year when they will have scores being produced from their new PMF system called ASPIRE. It just doesn't seem like they will do anything this year. Maybe if a school up for review this year is both low scoring on OSSE's DC report card and there are other issues like finances or low enrollment -- that might push the charter board to act.

Anonymous wrote:Impressive results from BASIS DC...tops in DC, even though they are 100% lottery...higher than Walls, which cherry picks its own students

Science scores

BASIS DC [MS and US]

3: 58.9%
4: 6.0%

Walls

3: 45.5%
4: 2.6%

Latin MS

3: 34.7%
4: 3.1%

Latin US

3: 29.2%
4: <5%

DCI [MS and US]

3: suppressed
4: <1%

If you were actually happy with BASIS you wouldn't be constantly posting this kind of thing.

Anonymous wrote:Impressive results from BASIS DC...tops in DC, even though they are 100% lottery...higher than Walls, which cherry picks its own students

Science scores

BASIS DC [MS and US]

3: 58.9%
4: 6.0%

Walls

3: 45.5%
4: 2.6%

Latin MS

3: 34.7%
4: 3.1%

Latin US

3: 29.2%
4: <5%

DCI [MS and US]

3: suppressed
4: <1%

Oh FFS here we go again. Stop with your constant, thirsty, needy, desperate BASIS boosting. You know they do all kinds of things to ensure their scores are the "best".

Why don't you tell us, Mx. Pure Lottery, whether there's any sort of test or evaluation a student must pass to enter 7th grade at BASIS.