Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 13:21     Subject: GWU

There are very few schools that do international affairs and political science well. GWU is one of them. It is know for it. Georgetown SAIS is another.

You do NOT attend a state school like UVA or W&M, for that sort of degree.



Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 13:12     Subject: GWU
People on this forum don't understand that some people can pay for any college that would make their child happy. They don't need to save money and force their kid to go to a college that they don't want to go to.

My son has a friend that has applied to GW. This won't crush their family to pay for it. They probably won't even notice the tuition payment.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 08:38     Subject: GWU
MCPS DD applied to GWU, UMD (IS) and W&M (OOS). She’s hoping for merit aid that might bring GWU closer to the price of public. If she gets it, will be a hard decision. She wants to work in the federal government and the proximity to internships and jobs at GWU can’t be beat. We can’t afford to pay full freight though and won’t get financial aid.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 08:35     Subject: GWU
Anonymous wrote:Heck no it is not better than in-state W&M UVA or VT.

Third tier school that's not worth it without a huge discount.

GWU = kids who couldn't get into Georgetown


Basically this. I went to GWU Law but in no way would I ever let my kids go there for undergrad. Basically it is a rich kids school that aren't smart enough to get into G-Town, UVA, etc. Their grad programs on the other hand are pretty good.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 03:08     Subject: GWU
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Anonymous wrote:GW is worth the money for IR and poli sci. It’s harder to make the case for other courses of study—at least if you’re paying full freight.


It really shouldn’t have taken a page and a half to get to this comment, but here we are. I’m still not sure I would do full pay at GW over UVA or W&M in-state for IR or poli sci, but if money was no consideration then, yeah, GW is better and worth it.


Disagree and USNWR agrees with me. Poli Sci at UVA is ranked 26-28 in the nation. GWU is at 38. My kid was a PPL (politics, Philophy and Law major) at UVA. I know the courses she took and read the syllabis and was most impressed - I'm comparing it to my own experience at top SLAC which helped to get me into a T3 law school. DD was involved in three political clubs, Larry Sabato's Crystal
ball and debate with the Jefferson Society. Every summer she had a politically-related internship, first with a think tank, then an internship with a top Senator, then a very rigorous competitive political program (free to her) in DC. She had superlative letters from UVA faculty (I saw two of them) and a UVA law prof rec where she had taken a class. She graduated with distinction and her UVA record and those LORs got her into a politics program at Oxbridge and then full scholarship. She is now active in the student union there and knows MPs and former prime ministers and otgers who come to speak She is applying to T9 law schools now. We couldn't be more pleased and grateful for in-state tuition. Yes she/we were lucky.


Your n=1 anecdote doesn’t demonstrate anything. You think the things you mentioned don’t exist at GW?

As for rankings, Foreign Policy ranks IR programs and GW is always ahead of UVA. Guess the rankings agree with me too.


^^^I also mentioned that it probably wasn’t worth it if you were in-state UVA given the cost difference, unless money was no object at all. You mentioned you were grateful for in-state tuition, so I don’t think this applies to you.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 03:04     Subject: GWU
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:GW is worth the money for IR and poli sci. It’s harder to make the case for other courses of study—at least if you’re paying full freight.


It really shouldn’t have taken a page and a half to get to this comment, but here we are. I’m still not sure I would do full pay at GW over UVA or W&M in-state for IR or poli sci, but if money was no consideration then, yeah, GW is better and worth it.


Disagree and USNWR agrees with me. Poli Sci at UVA is ranked 26-28 in the nation. GWU is at 38. My kid was a PPL (politics, Philophy and Law major) at UVA. I know the courses she took and read the syllabis and was most impressed - I'm comparing it to my own experience at top SLAC which helped to get me into a T3 law school. DD was involved in three political clubs, Larry Sabato's Crystal
ball and debate with the Jefferson Society. Every summer she had a politically-related internship, first with a think tank, then an internship with a top Senator, then a very rigorous competitive political program (free to her) in DC. She had superlative letters from UVA faculty (I saw two of them) and a UVA law prof rec where she had taken a class. She graduated with distinction and her UVA record and those LORs got her into a politics program at Oxbridge and then full scholarship. She is now active in the student union there and knows MPs and former prime ministers and otgers who come to speak She is applying to T9 law schools now. We couldn't be more pleased and grateful for in-state tuition. Yes she/we were lucky.


Your n=1 anecdote doesn’t demonstrate anything. You think the things you mentioned don’t exist at GW?

As for rankings, Foreign Policy ranks IR programs and GW is always ahead of UVA. Guess the rankings agree with me too.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 02:09     Subject: GWU
Anonymous wrote:My cousin and her husband do a lot of hiring of recent grads in DC (in the national security space) and they both say they prefer GW kids -- excellent work ethic and more likely to stay in DC after a few years.


I hire in that field and while I have hired GW grads I would not tell anyone to go there to get hired in this field. We hire from plenty of schools - Georgetown, SAIS, Columbia, King’s College, LSE, Stanford, Brown, MIT, Georgia Tech…
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 01:31     Subject: GWU
My cousin and her husband do a lot of hiring of recent grads in DC (in the national security space) and they both say they prefer GW kids -- excellent work ethic and more likely to stay in DC after a few years.

My daughter toured it, loved the somewhat urban location, and also loved Georgetown. Got into GW with great merit aid. Rejected from Georgetown, perhaps proving the point of whichever PP said GW was for Georgetown rejects. OTOH she's currently a freshman at one of the two Ivies where she was admitted -- so make sense of that one!
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 23:52     Subject: GWU
^forgot to mention her politics seminars at UVA were very small from second year on. She received a much better politics education than I did.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 23:48     Subject: GWU
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GW is worth the money for IR and poli sci. It’s harder to make the case for other courses of study—at least if you’re paying full freight.


It really shouldn’t have taken a page and a half to get to this comment, but here we are. I’m still not sure I would do full pay at GW over UVA or W&M in-state for IR or poli sci, but if money was no consideration then, yeah, GW is better and worth it.


Disagree and USNWR agrees with me. Poli Sci at UVA is ranked 26-28 in the nation. GWU is at 38. My kid was a PPL (politics, Philophy and Law major) at UVA. I know the courses she took and read the syllabis and was most impressed - I'm comparing it to my own experience at top SLAC which helped to get me into a T3 law school. DD was involved in three political clubs, Larry Sabato's Crystal
ball and debate with the Jefferson Society. Every summer she had a politically-related internship, first with a think tank, then an internship with a top Senator, then a very rigorous competitive political program (free to her) in DC. She had superlative letters from UVA faculty (I saw two of them) and a UVA law prof rec where she had taken a class. She graduated with distinction and her UVA record and those LORs got her into a politics program at Oxbridge and then full scholarship. She is now active in the student union there and knows MPs and former prime ministers and otgers who come to speak She is applying to T9 law schools now. We couldn't be more pleased and grateful for in-state tuition. Yes she/we were lucky.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 23:46     Subject: GWU
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Anonymous wrote:GW is worth the money for IR and poli sci. It’s harder to make the case for other courses of study—at least if you’re paying full freight.


I really liked GW's location and campus. It was really pretty. Also, their dining hall looked very modern and nice.



Are you sure you aren't referring to Georgetown? There isn't much of a "campus" in Foggy Bottom. Or are you referring to GW's Mt Vernon campus?


Yes, I'm sure. I guess I'm just referring to the areas you're taken to/go through on tours. There were a lot of trees and we were taken to a courtyard that was pretty too. The buildings are relatively pretty. I guess I also think that area of D.C. is relatively pretty.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 23:33     Subject: GWU
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GW is worth the money for IR and poli sci. It’s harder to make the case for other courses of study—at least if you’re paying full freight.


I really liked GW's location and campus. It was really pretty. Also, their dining hall looked very modern and nice.



Are you sure you aren't referring to Georgetown? There isn't much of a "campus" in Foggy Bottom. Or are you referring to GW's Mt Vernon campus?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 22:59     Subject: GWU
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Anonymous wrote:Heck no it is not better than in-state W&M UVA or VT.

Third tier school that's not worth it without a huge discount.

GWU = kids who couldn't get into Georgetown


My kid turned down W&M for GWU, because academics and internship opportunities for his preferred major were better at GWU.


This was a terrible decision.


??? That's stupid of you. My child is very happy at GWU. He visited W&M and hated it. He visited GWU and loved it. The dorms and food at GWU are much better than at W&M. He loves the urban campus and the profs of his major.

For us W&M is not in-state.
The slightly lower acceptance rate of W&M compared to GWU, and the price differential between the two, are not enough to overlook the fact that my kid DOESN'T LIKE W&M.

Where do you get off, hmm?


Different poster here. You should’ve clarified that he was out of state for William and Mary. That’s a difference. Nobody in their right mind would turn down W&M in-state to go to GW


PP you replied to. I disagree. We can afford to send him wherever he wants. I would never send my kid somewhere they didn't want to go. He got into our flagship state U, at less than half the price of GWU, and turned that down too. I'm perfectly fine with that. If there were budget constraints, I would have told him not to apply to privates in the first place.

You don't get to judge other people's college decisions if you don't know their budget and their priorities.



Yes we can judge that. This was a stupid decision regardless of your income.


PP you replied to. Well, I feel comfortable with my decision. Maybe you should reflect that you've made decisions in your life that others would disagree with.



You paid too much for an inferior product. But, you do you.

+1
I’m GW grad, and I strongly suspect I could buy both of you. But then I’d have a pair of inferior products.


Lol this is an amazing response.

But yeah, for some people the difference between GW and in-state at half the cost is not a meaningful amount of money. Hard to understand if you haven’t experienced it.


Call that difference $40k a year, $160k total. If you’re rich enough that $160k doesn’t matter to you then you should be able to buy an education with the full pay hook at a far better school than GWU.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 22:57     Subject: GWU
Anonymous wrote:GW is worth the money for IR and poli sci. It’s harder to make the case for other courses of study—at least if you’re paying full freight.


I really liked GW's location and campus. It was really pretty. Also, their dining hall looked very modern and nice.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 21:25     Subject: GWU
Anonymous wrote:GW is worth the money for IR and poli sci. It’s harder to make the case for other courses of study—at least if you’re paying full freight.


It really shouldn’t have taken a page and a half to get to this comment, but here we are. I’m still not sure I would do full pay at GW over UVA or W&M in-state for IR or poli sci, but if money was no consideration then, yeah, GW is better and worth it.