Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 09:26     Subject: Re:Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think she was expecting to be at the top of the ticket and Biden’s late abdication caught her off guard, with little time to ramp up a campaign and a message of her own.

It all goes back to Biden.


It all goes back to Hillary Clinton who brushed off her "my husband screwed around on me" card after using it to win a Senate seat and become Secretary of State and insist that she was the smartest girl in the class and could win the Presidency. Rather than shove the highly unlikeable Hillary aside, the DNC pushed the highly likeable Biden aside. That foisted Trump on us for four years and then an aging Biden on us for four years with his BLM vice president. Had the DNC let Biden run instead of Clinton, Biden would be coasting to the end of his second term, the DNC would have vetted and groomed young Democratic candidates to win, and we and the world would have been spared eight years of Trump.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 09:23     Subject: Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

I never thought that she was a good candidate due to the fact that in 2016, when she was running for the Democratic nomination, she never won a single delegate. Her campaign fizzled out.

Biden put her on his ticket because he wanted a woman. Other than that, what had she ever accomplished nationally?
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 09:23     Subject: Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

The definition of a good politician is one that wins elections.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 09:20     Subject: Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She wasn’t.

Too many idiots listened to RWNJ propaganda.



But the Democrats are fully pushing this narrative that she was a terrible candidate.


Post election, of course. Remember these are the same Democrats that assured the American people that Joe Biden was perfectly fit for another campaign and another four year presidency. Then came the Trump/Biden debate, and the Democrats pushed the narrative that Kamala Harris, the Vice President everyone forget about for 3.5 years, was perfectly fit for a campaign and a presidency.

Rinse and repeat.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 09:19     Subject: Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

When she talked about greedy corporations and price controls, that’s when she lost me. That’s the talk of someone who failed Microeconomics 101. She was truly not very bright. Trump’s tariff talk is also worrisome, but it appears he’s going to use that threat to shut down migrant trains and it may already be working, so I don’t mind targeted coercion like that.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 09:15     Subject: Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because she lost to Trump.



Is that really it? Is there anything more specific about what she did or failed to do?


Have a more definitive policy stance rather than creating democracy, freedom, and joy for the denizens of the United States of America who did nothing but complain about prices and immigration.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 09:12     Subject: Re:Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On another thread I warned last year Biden would lose, and six months ago that Harris was the wrong pick. She had a chance - she surprised everyone at the first Trump debate, then apathy took over.
1. The Dem Party is out of touch. After Harris, it's clear they have no leadership in touch with America. They should've shifted to strong against illegal immigration as a starter. Americans want law-abiding citizens, not law-breakers importing the issues from their own countries into this one. Period. That anger alone was enough to dethrone Harris. The icing on the cake was ActBlue spamming for money, probably pissing off people out of work or trying to make ends meet.
2. Appeal as a Leader for Change. When she had the chance to distinguish herself after the first debate, she didn't distance herself from Biden's policies. Her abortion and Ukraine stance was good, but that's it. She had the Marie Antoinette vibe on Israel, immigration, border, jobs, economy, and especially on working class struggling to make ends meet. She had no new ideas worth a "s". Trump's 'cut Government' policies are already showing mass appeal. See where this is going?
3. Appeal to Intellectuals. To me, she thinks she's an intellectual, but academically, she's meh. Her only real job experience was as a prosecutor. Good, but not great since her Foreign Policy background was meh. She's no PhD or rocket scientist and not super-rich. Humble versus arrogant would've been a better approach. If she wasn't bright enough to read the room and formulate new policies to help American workers, why didn't she team up with someone who could? A smart move would've been to announce an all-star cabinet before the election with fresh ideas.
4. Appeal on Race. When others portrayed her as playing the 'race card', she ran off to do her "victory speech" at her Historically Black College / University. Rightly or wrongly, this portrayed her as encamped in racist ideals and devisive; reinforcing that she had a hidden agenda to promote Black politics. Of course, Harris supporters would allege this is 'racist', but guess what - now they have to live with a President who won't be sympathetic at all. Congratulations. You helped elect Trump into office by prioritizing Black politics over unifying the country regardless of race.
5. Appeal on VP pick. A high-energy, younger, white, male, Republican strong on border security would've been the ideal pick. Again, Harris and the Democratic Party picked who they thought was 'safe' with Harris, not edgy.
6. Root-cause-analysis. Both the Dems and MAGA have issues. The American public doesn't really want either. I see Trump's election as a protest vote against status-quo, not really that most want Trump. Also, don't discount the Foreign Influence factor. I believe the Russians are far more entrenched in US politics than anyone believes. Since Biden didn't do much about it (didn't shut down the Russian embassy and consulates, waited to the last minute to eject RT, didn't raise awareness by discussing it openly, etc.), inaction led to greater influence. Now Trump will likely suppress any semblence of free press reporting, allowing Russia or other countries to engage openly in influence operations.

Again, congratulations Democrats. You are helping to dismantle US democracy. But if you don't believe what's written above, that's fine. Keep hiding your head in the sand.


So no blame at all for Republicans in leadership who didn't find a better decent candidate? Or no responsibilty for the voters who voted for him?

No, you are blaming the wrong people. It is those who voted and supported him are to blame.

Republicans won. You don’t seem to understand how elections work.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 09:11     Subject: Re:Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

Anonymous wrote:On another thread I warned last year Biden would lose, and six months ago that Harris was the wrong pick. She had a chance - she surprised everyone at the first Trump debate, then apathy took over.
1. The Dem Party is out of touch. After Harris, it's clear they have no leadership in touch with America. They should've shifted to strong against illegal immigration as a starter. Americans want law-abiding citizens, not law-breakers importing the issues from their own countries into this one. Period. That anger alone was enough to dethrone Harris. The icing on the cake was ActBlue spamming for money, probably pissing off people out of work or trying to make ends meet.
2. Appeal as a Leader for Change. When she had the chance to distinguish herself after the first debate, she didn't distance herself from Biden's policies. Her abortion and Ukraine stance was good, but that's it. She had the Marie Antoinette vibe on Israel, immigration, border, jobs, economy, and especially on working class struggling to make ends meet. She had no new ideas worth a "s". Trump's 'cut Government' policies are already showing mass appeal. See where this is going?
3. Appeal to Intellectuals. To me, she thinks she's an intellectual, but academically, she's meh. Her only real job experience was as a prosecutor. Good, but not great since her Foreign Policy background was meh. She's no PhD or rocket scientist and not super-rich. Humble versus arrogant would've been a better approach. If she wasn't bright enough to read the room and formulate new policies to help American workers, why didn't she team up with someone who could? A smart move would've been to announce an all-star cabinet before the election with fresh ideas.
4. Appeal on Race. When others portrayed her as playing the 'race card', she ran off to do her "victory speech" at her Historically Black College / University. Rightly or wrongly, this portrayed her as encamped in racist ideals and devisive; reinforcing that she had a hidden agenda to promote Black politics. Of course, Harris supporters would allege this is 'racist', but guess what - now they have to live with a President who won't be sympathetic at all. Congratulations. You helped elect Trump into office by prioritizing Black politics over unifying the country regardless of race.
5. Appeal on VP pick. A high-energy, younger, white, male, Republican strong on border security would've been the ideal pick. Again, Harris and the Democratic Party picked who they thought was 'safe' with Harris, not edgy.
6. Root-cause-analysis. Both the Dems and MAGA have issues. The American public doesn't really want either. I see Trump's election as a protest vote against status-quo, not really that most want Trump. Also, don't discount the Foreign Influence factor. I believe the Russians are far more entrenched in US politics than anyone believes. Since Biden didn't do much about it (didn't shut down the Russian embassy and consulates, waited to the last minute to eject RT, didn't raise awareness by discussing it openly, etc.), inaction led to greater influence. Now Trump will likely suppress any semblence of free press reporting, allowing Russia or other countries to engage openly in influence operations.

Again, congratulations Democrats. You are helping to dismantle US democracy. But if you don't believe what's written above, that's fine. Keep hiding your head in the sand.


So no blame at all for Republicans in leadership who didn't find a better decent candidate? Or no responsibilty for the voters who voted for him?

No, you are blaming the wrong people. It is those who voted and supported him are to blame.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 09:11     Subject: Re:Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

I don’t think she was expecting to be at the top of the ticket and Biden’s late abdication caught her off guard, with little time to ramp up a campaign and a message of her own.

It all goes back to Biden.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 09:01     Subject: Re:Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

On another thread I warned last year Biden would lose, and six months ago that Harris was the wrong pick. She had a chance - she surprised everyone at the first Trump debate, then apathy took over.
1. The Dem Party is out of touch. After Harris, it's clear they have no leadership in touch with America. They should've shifted to strong against illegal immigration as a starter. Americans want law-abiding citizens, not law-breakers importing the issues from their own countries into this one. Period. That anger alone was enough to dethrone Harris. The icing on the cake was ActBlue spamming for money, probably pissing off people out of work or trying to make ends meet.
2. Appeal as a Leader for Change. When she had the chance to distinguish herself after the first debate, she didn't distance herself from Biden's policies. Her abortion and Ukraine stance was good, but that's it. She had the Marie Antoinette vibe on Israel, immigration, border, jobs, economy, and especially on working class struggling to make ends meet. She had no new ideas worth a "s". Trump's 'cut Government' policies are already showing mass appeal. See where this is going?
3. Appeal to Intellectuals. To me, she thinks she's an intellectual, but academically, she's meh. Her only real job experience was as a prosecutor. Good, but not great since her Foreign Policy background was meh. She's no PhD or rocket scientist and not super-rich. Humble versus arrogant would've been a better approach. If she wasn't bright enough to read the room and formulate new policies to help American workers, why didn't she team up with someone who could? A smart move would've been to announce an all-star cabinet before the election with fresh ideas.
4. Appeal on Race. When others portrayed her as playing the 'race card', she ran off to do her "victory speech" at her Historically Black College / University. Rightly or wrongly, this portrayed her as encamped in racist ideals and devisive; reinforcing that she had a hidden agenda to promote Black politics. Of course, Harris supporters would allege this is 'racist', but guess what - now they have to live with a President who won't be sympathetic at all. Congratulations. You helped elect Trump into office by prioritizing Black politics over unifying the country regardless of race.
5. Appeal on VP pick. A high-energy, younger, white, male, Republican strong on border security would've been the ideal pick. Again, Harris and the Democratic Party picked who they thought was 'safe' with Harris, not edgy.
6. Root-cause-analysis. Both the Dems and MAGA have issues. The American public doesn't really want either. I see Trump's election as a protest vote against status-quo, not really that most want Trump. Also, don't discount the Foreign Influence factor. I believe the Russians are far more entrenched in US politics than anyone believes. Since Biden didn't do much about it (didn't shut down the Russian embassy and consulates, waited to the last minute to eject RT, didn't raise awareness by discussing it openly, etc.), inaction led to greater influence. Now Trump will likely suppress any semblence of free press reporting, allowing Russia or other countries to engage openly in influence operations.

Again, congratulations Democrats. You are helping to dismantle US democracy. But if you don't believe what's written above, that's fine. Keep hiding your head in the sand.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 08:56     Subject: Re:Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

Anonymous wrote:People who think she interviews well are delusional. Her terrible interviews doomed her 2020 primary campaign. She knows little about policy and doesn’t care much for it (unlike basically everyone else who has ever run for president), making her unable to articulate what she’d actually do in office.


Trump had a plan for a plan and Harris isn't articulate?
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 08:55     Subject: Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She has always come across as intelligent, articulate and very well-informed on the issues.
She put Trump to shame during the debate.
I don’t even think her answer on The View that she couldn’t really think of anything she would do differently from Biden was particularly damning. She is his Vice-President, what the heck could she really have said?

And this is coming from someone who voted for Trump, but I would have done so no matter who was on the Democratic ticket.


She was a fine candidate. the problem was the corporatist mainstrem media that focused on horserace journalism (polling) rather than issues con=mbined with the outright lies and misinformation put out by the right.

The claim that it was media bias is so bizarre. Every campaign article had a headline like:

“Harris Reinforces Message of ‘Joy’ at Event in Pennsylvania with Beyonce while Trump’s Takes His Increasingly Dark and Hate Filled Campaign To Michigan”.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 08:55     Subject: Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

Anonymous wrote:I voted for Trump and I watched her concession speech on that Wednesday. I think it was the best speech I’ve ever seen her give. She was relaxed, she looked….happy?……… She sounded confident and assured. If the Kamala Harris that gave THAT speech would’ve been the Kamala Harris on the campaign trail, I really think she might’ve pulled it off.

She hid her best self during the campaign, presumably following the advice of campaign managers and consultants. She should’ve just been herself instead.


Please. Spare us. There is no way you would vote for vice president Harris.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 08:55     Subject: Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She wasn’t.

Too many idiots listened to RWNJ propaganda.



You will ever learn


No, I will never learn why people can’t just vote for someone who may be mediocre but at least keep the status until the next election, when the other choice is the worst President the country has ever had and who is compromised by people who want to dismantle the government.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2024 08:53     Subject: Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She wasn’t.

Too many idiots listened to RWNJ propaganda.



But the Democrats are fully pushing this narrative that she was a terrible candidate.


Dp. Not everyone, pp

To the op, why do you care? Honestly, shouldn't you be out celebrating you Dear Leader's victory? You said yourself there is no one that could get your vote but Trump. I bet even Ronald Reagan would have lost.....