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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

There was a rainbow alliance of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, men and unfortunately women.

I believe that massive disinformation campaigns (sponsored largely by Putin who wants to divide and conquer both the US and EU) via exploiting fear of illegal immigration and misrepresenting economic realities are the main reasons that the amoral Narcissist was elected.

The disinformation is coming from the pulpit too

The head minister at my church said he was noting for Harris because she represents Christian values better but encouraged everyone to respect each others’ choices.

Good to see she is an outlier.

Not an outlier in many mainstream churches

Yes it is an outlier in many mainstream churches. Check the statistics.

Definitely not an outlier in my mainstream church - Republican members feel on the outs. There is a lot mourning in my large church knowing how much suffering will lie ahead for so many people.

But you are right because it is a mixed bag and varies by race. White evangelicals continue to support Trump. It boggles my mind.

SEPTEMBER 9, 2024

White Protestants and Catholics support Trump, but voters in other U.S. religious groups prefer Harris

Heading into the fall campaign for president, U.S. religious groups that traditionally have leaned Republican are backing former President Donald Trump by wide margins, while religious groups that traditionally have favored Democratic candidates are mostly supporting Vice President Kamala Harris.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/09/white-protestants-and-catholics-support-trump-but-voters-in-other-us-religious-groups-prefer-harris/

You mean you belong to a black church?

We are not predominantly black but relatively diverse … a lot of emphasis on education and compassion … it makes me very sad to see how well Trump did among so many Christians …

I have always supported separation of church and state but now I see it as essential and urgent.

Anyway that is beside’s OP’s intent for this thread . To me Trump is a particularly cynical atheist who knows how to exploit religion for unholy purposes. The atheists and agnostics whom I know in real life are far more ethical and honest so this is not meant as an insult. I just don’t believe that anyone who loves and fears God would behave in the way he does.

Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

There was a rainbow alliance of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, men and unfortunately women.

I believe that massive disinformation campaigns (sponsored largely by Putin who wants to divide and conquer both the US and EU) via exploiting fear of illegal immigration and misrepresenting economic realities are the main reasons that the amoral Narcissist was elected.

The disinformation is coming from the pulpit too

The head minister at my church said he was noting for Harris because she represents Christian values better but encouraged everyone to respect each others’ choices.

Good to see she is an outlier.

Not an outlier in many mainstream churches

Yes it is an outlier in many mainstream churches. Check the statistics.

Definitely not an outlier in my mainstream church - Republican members feel on the outs. There is a lot mourning in my large church knowing how much suffering will lie ahead for so many people.

But you are right because it is a mixed bag and varies by race. White evangelicals continue to support Trump. It boggles my mind.

SEPTEMBER 9, 2024

White Protestants and Catholics support Trump, but voters in other U.S. religious groups prefer Harris

Heading into the fall campaign for president, U.S. religious groups that traditionally have leaned Republican are backing former President Donald Trump by wide margins, while religious groups that traditionally have favored Democratic candidates are mostly supporting Vice President Kamala Harris.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/09/white-protestants-and-catholics-support-trump-but-voters-in-other-us-religious-groups-prefer-harris/

You mean you belong to a black church?

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

There was a rainbow alliance of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, men and unfortunately women.

I believe that massive disinformation campaigns (sponsored largely by Putin who wants to divide and conquer both the US and EU) via exploiting fear of illegal immigration and misrepresenting economic realities are the main reasons that the amoral Narcissist was elected.

The disinformation is coming from the pulpit too

The head minister at my church said he was noting for Harris because she represents Christian values better but encouraged everyone to respect each others’ choices.

Good to see she is an outlier.

Not an outlier in many mainstream churches

Yes it is an outlier in many mainstream churches. Check the statistics.

Definitely not an outlier in my mainstream church - Republican members feel on the outs. There is a lot mourning in my large church knowing how much suffering will lie ahead for so many people.

But you are right because it is a mixed bag and varies by race. White evangelicals continue to support Trump. It boggles my mind.

SEPTEMBER 9, 2024

White Protestants and Catholics support Trump, but voters in other U.S. religious groups prefer Harris

Heading into the fall campaign for president, U.S. religious groups that traditionally have leaned Republican are backing former President Donald Trump by wide margins, while religious groups that traditionally have favored Democratic candidates are mostly supporting Vice President Kamala Harris.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/09/white-protestants-and-catholics-support-trump-but-voters-in-other-us-religious-groups-prefer-harris/

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

There was a rainbow alliance of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, men and unfortunately women.

I believe that massive disinformation campaigns (sponsored largely by Putin who wants to divide and conquer both the US and EU) via exploiting fear of illegal immigration and misrepresenting economic realities are the main reasons that the amoral Narcissist was elected.

The disinformation is coming from the pulpit too

The head minister at my church said he was noting for Harris because she represents Christian values better but encouraged everyone to respect each others’ choices.

Good to see she is an outlier.

Not an outlier in many mainstream churches

Yes it is an outlier in many mainstream churches. Check the statistics.

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

DP. Go look up a survey as to how many of those enthusiastic supporters regularly attend church. At least last time I looked, regular church attendance made one less likely to support him.

Link please.

You are 1000% wrong

I can't find 2024 data and I may well be wrong. There was definitely data that showed "evangelicals" who basically never went to church were Trump's strongest "evangelical" supporters while those who attended weekly or more were his weakest evangelical supporters.

I go to the kind of church that wouldn't dream of telling me who to vote for, and the thought of those "churches" that are basically giant political rallies for anyone makes me sick. Like the other PP I'm not sure those get to count.

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

There was a rainbow alliance of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, men and unfortunately women.

I believe that massive disinformation campaigns (sponsored largely by Putin who wants to divide and conquer both the US and EU) via exploiting fear of illegal immigration and misrepresenting economic realities are the main reasons that the amoral Narcissist was elected.

The disinformation is coming from the pulpit too

The head minister at my church said he was noting for Harris because she represents Christian values better but encouraged everyone to respect each others’ choices.

Good to see she is an outlier.

Not an outlier in many mainstream churches

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

DP. Go look up a survey as to how many of those enthusiastic supporters regularly attend church. At least last time I looked, regular church attendance made one less likely to support him.

Link please.

You are 1000% wrong

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

There was a rainbow alliance of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, men and unfortunately women.

I believe that massive disinformation campaigns (sponsored largely by Putin who wants to divide and conquer both the US and EU) via exploiting fear of illegal immigration and misrepresenting economic realities are the main reasons that the amoral Narcissist was elected.

The disinformation is coming from the pulpit too

The head minister at my church said he was noting for Harris because she represents Christian values better but encouraged everyone to respect each others’ choices.

Good to see she is an outlier.

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

There was a rainbow alliance of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, men and unfortunately women.

I believe that massive disinformation campaigns (sponsored largely by Putin who wants to divide and conquer both the US and EU) via exploiting fear of illegal immigration and misrepresenting economic realities are the main reasons that the amoral Narcissist was elected.

The disinformation is coming from the pulpit too

Yes, this is what it is. Let's keep blaming it on Putin instead of trying to actually put together a coherent platform and focus on peoples' problems. The degree to which this idiotic cope has taken hold AGAIN after we should have learned our lesson in 2016 is astonishing to me.

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

DP. Go look up a survey as to how many of those enthusiastic supporters regularly attend church. At least last time I looked, regular church attendance made one less likely to support him.

Link please.

You are 1000% wrong

I also think that's wrong but I think those "Christians" go to prosperity/non-denominational churches and don't know the Bible any better than Trump does.

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

There was a rainbow alliance of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, men and unfortunately women.

I believe that massive disinformation campaigns (sponsored largely by Putin who wants to divide and conquer both the US and EU) via exploiting fear of illegal immigration and misrepresenting economic realities are the main reasons that the amoral Narcissist was elected.

The disinformation is coming from the pulpit too

The head minister at my church said he was noting for Harris because she represents Christian values better but encouraged everyone to respect each others’ choices.

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

There was a rainbow alliance of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, men and unfortunately women.

I believe that massive disinformation campaigns (sponsored largely by Putin who wants to divide and conquer both the US and EU) via exploiting fear of illegal immigration and misrepresenting economic realities are the main reasons that the amoral Narcissist was elected.

The disinformation is coming from the pulpit too

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Anonymous wrote:It was mentioned on another thread that Trump is an atheist, but nobody picked up on it. Maybe neither religious people nor atheists want to think that.

What do you think?

I would assume he is as he has cynically exploited religion for his own political purposes and seems completely fearless about the bad kharma he has generated along the way.

Well, by that description, he sounds like a Christian

Does not sound like anyone in my church.

Also all the Christians I know would be worried about consequences of their actions, especially ones that have hurt so many people.

He does not attend church, does not know scriptures, has been married several times, boasted about sexually assaulting women in a video, cheated many small businesses out of payment, made incestuous remarks about his beautiful daughter, evaded paying taxes over decades, praised murderous dictators while disrespecting leaders of allied democratic nations. He really does not sound like any Christians I know.

Now explain the millions of Christians who enthusiastically support him.

There was a rainbow alliance of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Latinos, men and unfortunately women.

I believe that massive disinformation campaigns (sponsored largely by Putin who wants to divide and conquer both the US and EU) via exploiting fear of illegal immigration and misrepresenting economic realities are the main reasons that the amoral Narcissist was elected.

The disinformation is coming from the pulpit too