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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if they return to test required. If you look at their common data set, even during the TO period, they tend to accept a high percentage of student who submit scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

UVA will take the lead, as usual. The Ivies have already done it.

They can't go test optional without sacrificing their medians

Not true with the elite public and privates. Not at all. UVA receives almost 60,000 apps a year. It's SCHEV median is a 4.4, 34 ACT and a 1470.That's not going to change because the demand for an elite public education at $160k a year compared to private at $400k (USC just passed $96k a year) is only going to increase the interest in top
publics. It's a simple analysis of supply and demand. All of the elite publics are seeing this, especially during covid when many families lost income and had to rethink the cost of higher ed. The next step would be for UVA/the Commknwealth to respond to taxpayers and reduce OOS and international from 26% to less than 8% as Cal, Texas, and N Carolina have done, but so far bills to do exactly that have never made it out of committee

Because it's economically infeasible. UVA has been one-third OOS since I went there as an OOS student the early 90s (and UNC was less than 20% OOS back then, too). It was a financial play then, and state funding has only gotten worse in the interim.

And none of the "elite publics" has gone test-required.

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if they return to test required. If you look at their common data set, even during the TO period, they tend to accept a high percentage of student who submit scores.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

UVA will take the lead, as usual. The Ivies have already done it.

They can't go test optional without sacrificing their medians

Not true with the elite public and privates. Not at all. UVA receives almost 60,000 apps a year. It's SCHEV median is a 4.4, 34 ACT and a 1470.That's not going to change because the demand for an elite public education at $160k a year compared to private at $400k (USC just passed $96k a year) is only going to increase the interest in top
publics. It's a simple analysis of supply and demand. All of the elite publics are seeing this, especially during covid when many families lost income and had to rethink the cost of higher ed. The next step would be for UVA/the Commknwealth to respond to taxpayers and reduce OOS and international from 26% to less than 8% as Cal, Texas, and N Carolina have done, but so far bills to do exactly that have never made it out of committee

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

UVA will take the lead, as usual. The Ivies have already done it.

Columbia, Princeton, UPenn, Duke, Rice, Chicago, Vanderbilt are all schools that are much better than UVA that haven't gone TR.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

UVA will take the lead, as usual. The Ivies have already done it.

They can't go test optional without sacrificing their medians

Not true with the elite public and privates. Not at all. UVA receives almost 60,000 apps a year. It's SCHEV median is a 4.4, 34 ACT and a 1470.That's not going to change because the demand for an elite public education at $160k a year compared to private at $400k (USC just passed $96k a year) is only going to increase the interest in top
publics. It's a simple analysis of supply and demand. All of the elite publics are seeing this, especially during covid when many families lost income and had to rethink the cost of higher ed. The next step would be for UVA/the Commknwealth to respond to taxpayers and reduce OOS and international from 26% to less than 8% as Cal, Texas, and N Carolina have done, but so far bills to do exactly that have never made it out of committee

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

UVA will take the lead, as usual. The Ivies have already done it.

They can't go test optional without sacrificing their medians

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

UVA will take the lead, as usual. The Ivies have already done it.

Columbia, Princeton, UPenn, Duke, Rice, Chicago, Vanderbilt are all schools that are much better than UVA that haven't gone TR.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

UVA will take the lead, as usual. The Ivies have already done it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

UVA will take the lead, as usual. The Ivies have already done it.

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

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Anonymous wrote:Interestingly every other large public VA school including W&M, JMU and Va Tech is remaining test optional.

Like Amherst and Williams