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Anonymous wrote:They are supposed to be the defenders of democracy but they treeted him like a normal politician. They should have met with experts on authoritarianism in 2015 to learn how to properly report on him. Massive, massive dereliction of duty in name of profits and ratings. Enjoy being state-run now.

Oh, dear. Keep up that hyperbole and high drama. It’s really working for you.

Ignorance is bliss, I guess. I have a degree in political science and I’ve read more than enough political history to understand how this goes down.

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Anonymous wrote:If everyone listened to the media, Harris would’ve won in a landslide.

It’s obvious that the media has no more power as they did in the past. But also, you can only cry wolf so many times before normal people tune you out. That’s what clearly happened in this election. Cable news is no longer news, it’s sensational clickbait designed to just get views and clicks.

Well said. I actually thought Harris would win in a landslide - why? Because the media (and this forum) insisted it was so. They did an entire 180 on her after Biden was forced out. The WSJ is the only source I can recall that didn’t fawn over her and treat her like the next coming. Most of the media was absolutely pushing Kamala Harris on the rest of us.

Every person who predicts races and has usually predicted correctly, predicted Harris would win. Something is rotten.

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Anonymous wrote:They are supposed to be the defenders of democracy but they treeted him like a normal politician. They should have met with experts on authoritarianism in 2015 to learn how to properly report on him. Massive, massive dereliction of duty in name of profits and ratings. Enjoy being state-run now.

Oh, dear. Keep up that hyperbole and high drama. It’s really working for you.

Well, certainly hope you guys can make up for all the subscriptions now.

And oh, when you get upset because Dems shun you, it's because of the bolded. The gaslighting era is over.

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Anonymous wrote:Nah. The media that was transcribing Trump's incoherent ramblings and then edited them to make them sound semi normal. That media has failed for me.

No cable news anymore, WaPo and NYT are cancelled. I did subscribe to Philadelphia Inquirer because they are owned by a non profit and will contribute to Pro Publica.

They will have to work really hard to get trust back.

Twitter is unreadable anymore, but BlueSky looks good, so I may go there.

You are unbelievably far left. There is no media source that would make you happy unless they were clearly biased toward Democrats. I bet you’re a fan of MSNBC.

Can you stop being a pain in the ass for 5 seconds and just respond without anger and hate? For example, you could share a news source that you think is more balanced. But nooooo you have to be a total dick and derail the convo. That’s why we hate MAGA.

DP. C-Span. That's all I listen to. No spin, just: "Here is Vice President Harris speaking in North Carolina," not "Here is successful Vice President Kamala Harris speaking to a group of Democratic supporters who understand the importance of abortions, joy and freedom in their lives in North Carolina." And "here is former President Trump speaking in Pennyslvania." not "Here is the convicted felon and rapist Trump speaking to a group of poorly educated white man in Pennsylvania."

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Yes. Thank goodness for C-Span.

Anonymous wrote:No one started a thread to talk about media's role in this election outcome? Or are we done blaming the media since '16?

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Anonymous wrote:Nah. The media that was transcribing Trump's incoherent ramblings and then edited them to make them sound semi normal. That media has failed for me.

No cable news anymore, WaPo and NYT are cancelled. I did subscribe to Philadelphia Inquirer because they are owned by a non profit and will contribute to Pro Publica.

They will have to work really hard to get trust back.

Twitter is unreadable anymore, but BlueSky looks good, so I may go there.

You are unbelievably far left. There is no media source that would make you happy unless they were clearly biased toward Democrats. I bet you’re a fan of MSNBC.

Nope. No MSNBC, no CNN. NO CABLE NEWS (in case you can't read)

I will not trust a paper whose owner will censor it, pure and simple. But you go on with WSJ and Fox News, though I hear those are too mild for you guys now.

I don’t watch Fox, but I do read WSJ - a source that is widely respected. And they also don’t endorse candidates, btw.

Didn't they just endorse Trump? They are also owned by Murdoch, which is the same issue as WAPO. Sorry, not trusting a paper who is owned by a billionaire whose interests don't align with most of the country

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bishop wrote:Media:

I think we need a balance and get the best ideas from both sides but the media is too skewed.

MSM
- The right can't have a good idea. Left is perfect.
- Rachel Maddow: HUGE HUGE liar. Deceiving so many people. Can't believe people don't know how to logically fact check her. I am embarrassed for her followers.
- Biden is shaper than ever. Harris is hope and change.
- Massive editing of source material for inflammatory leftist propaganda. Make the other side look as bad as possible. What happened to honesty and integrity?
Media is not focusing on the $$$ influence in politics, because they benefit. Media as the 4th Branch of Government? Nope. Gone.
- Covering a subject in detail and summarizing it well for an audience? Gone (except for some like PBS).
- Talk shows don't start with the facts, but opinions and tells us what to think. Maybe that's needed for us to watch, but it doesn't inform us.
- Everything is hyperbolic and dialed to eleven.

I'll stop there. It's really bad right now. Media has almost no credibility left except with the brainwashed who can't think independently.

The fact that you only address left wing sources does not help your point at all, when you know fully well that there are issues at Fox that are just as problematic.

Anonymous wrote:The media that was telling us this would be the end of democracy? The media that said Trump was Hitler - but worse? The media that claimed Kamala was never the border czar despite montages of clips from 2021 calling her the border czar? The media that said we’ll never have another election again if Trump won? The media that assured us that Joe Biden was in absolute peak condition this whole time, until the day after the debate, when they said he had to go? The media that insisted Trump was hit by a piece of broken teleprompter that had nothing to do with bullets flying by? The media that stirred crazies up and got them shooting at Trump?


That media?


They’ve sacrificed every last shred of their credibility. They’re a laughingstock.

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Anonymous wrote:Nah. The media that was transcribing Trump's incoherent ramblings and then edited them to make them sound semi normal. That media has failed for me.

No cable news anymore, WaPo and NYT are cancelled. I did subscribe to Philadelphia Inquirer because they are owned by a non profit and will contribute to Pro Publica.

They will have to work really hard to get trust back.

Twitter is unreadable anymore, but BlueSky looks good, so I may go there.

You are unbelievably far left. There is no media source that would make you happy unless they were clearly biased toward Democrats. I bet you’re a fan of MSNBC.

Can you stop being a pain in the ass for 5 seconds and just respond without anger and hate? For example, you could share a news source that you think is more balanced. But nooooo you have to be a total dick and derail the convo. That’s why we hate MAGA.

DP. C-Span. That's all I listen to. No spin, just: "Here is Vice President Harris speaking in North Carolina," not "Here is successful Vice President Kamala Harris speaking to a group of Democratic supporters who understand the importance of abortions, joy and freedom in their lives in North Carolina." And "here is former President Trump speaking in Pennyslvania." not "Here is the convicted felon and rapist Trump speaking to a group of poorly educated white man in Pennsylvania."

Anonymous wrote:NP. The media fell flat on its face because they forgot that the world has access to primary sources now. You can’t run headlines saying Trump wants to execute Liz Cheney and then when you go watch the video, he is clearly just calling her a chickenhawk (which she is). I voted for Harris but that entire episode was so discrediting to the MSM. It was a flat-out lie meant to help Harris, and people saw it because they went straight to the primary source.

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Anonymous wrote:They are supposed to be the defenders of democracy but they treeted him like a normal politician. They should have met with experts on authoritarianism in 2015 to learn how to properly report on him. Massive, massive dereliction of duty in name of profits and ratings. Enjoy being state-run now.

Oh, dear. Keep up that hyperbole and high drama. It’s really working for you.

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Anonymous wrote:If everyone listened to the media, Harris would’ve won in a landslide.

It’s obvious that the media has no more power as they did in the past. But also, you can only cry wolf so many times before normal people tune you out. That’s what clearly happened in this election. Cable news is no longer news, it’s sensational clickbait designed to just get views and clicks.

Well said. I actually thought Harris would win in a landslide - why? Because the media (and this forum) insisted it was so. They did an entire 180 on her after Biden was forced out. The WSJ is the only source I can recall that didn’t fawn over her and treat her like the next coming. Most of the media was absolutely pushing Kamala Harris on the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:They are supposed to be the defenders of democracy but they treeted him like a normal politician. They should have met with experts on authoritarianism in 2015 to learn how to properly report on him. Massive, massive dereliction of duty in name of profits and ratings. Enjoy being state-run now.

Oh, dear. Keep up that hyperbole and high drama. It’s really working for you.

Anonymous wrote:They are supposed to be the defenders of democracy but they treeted him like a normal politician. They should have met with experts on authoritarianism in 2015 to learn how to properly report on him. Massive, massive dereliction of duty in name of profits and ratings. Enjoy being state-run now.

Anonymous wrote:If everyone listened to the media, Harris would’ve won in a landslide.

It’s obvious that the media has no more power as they did in the past. But also, you can only cry wolf so many times before normal people tune you out. That’s what clearly happened in this election. Cable news is no longer news, it’s sensational clickbait designed to just get views and clicks.