Anonymous
11/04/2024 11:54
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I disagree with people calling these measures racist.
Many of the proposals will help many people including black men (if enacted in good ways) - by improving education and mental health services.
I don’t use drugs and don’t love the smell of pot but there is evidence that legalizing pot helps reduce incarceration rates for blacks and whites. I can put up with the smell if it helps people to stay on better paths.
“The data supports that medicinal and recreational marijuana legalization decreases prison rates for Whites and Blacks, but not for Hispanics. Since the prison rate data was collected for all crimes, there could be another crime that increased Hispanic prison rates.”
https://www.uakron.edu/economics/academics/senior-projects/2023/franchescisseniorprojectspring2023.pdf
Pew research shows that Clear majorities of Black Americans favor marijuana legalization, easing of criminal penalties. So if it helps their communities to have more families with parents not in jail for non violent offenses, then I can see the value.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/06/08/clear-majorities-of-black-americans-favor-marijuana-legalization-easing-of-criminal-penalties/
Why should a black person get a loan that a similar white person cannot? How is that not racist? Why not target all low income people and then let all poor people get help rather than just a certain skin color?
+1
Plenty of very low income white people in my hometown in rust belt left behind when manufacturing moved out.
They are much less likely to get locked up for non violent offenses.
And most of these proposals would help them also - more investment in training, education and mental health.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 11:49
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I disagree with people calling these measures racist.
Many of the proposals will help many people including black men (if enacted in good ways) - by improving education and mental health services.
I don’t use drugs and don’t love the smell of pot but there is evidence that legalizing pot helps reduce incarceration rates for blacks and whites. I can put up with the smell if it helps people to stay on better paths.
“The data supports that medicinal and recreational marijuana legalization decreases prison rates for Whites and Blacks, but not for Hispanics. Since the prison rate data was collected for all crimes, there could be another crime that increased Hispanic prison rates.”
https://www.uakron.edu/economics/academics/senior-projects/2023/franchescisseniorprojectspring2023.pdf
Pew research shows that Clear majorities of Black Americans favor marijuana legalization, easing of criminal penalties. So if it helps their communities to have more families with parents not in jail for non violent offenses, then I can see the value.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/06/08/clear-majorities-of-black-americans-favor-marijuana-legalization-easing-of-criminal-penalties/
Why should a black person get a loan that a similar white person cannot? How is that not racist? Why not target all low income people and then let all poor people get help rather than just a certain skin color?
+1
Plenty of very low income white people in my hometown in rust belt left behind when manufacturing moved out.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 11:34
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do Black men need special protection from cryptocurrency?
Probably due to lack of regulation and predatory financial loans and practices, which are well documented as targeting black people.
However the idea is that crypto could help black business people and entrepreneurs if there are safeguards in place.
There are reports anon black donor gave big donation in crypto and wanted Harris campaign to switch up the narrative on this.
Thankfully Harris is Black woman and able to handle this crypto donation successfully.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 11:18
Subject: Re:Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This agenda is racist.
The American political agenda has been racist, favoring the white men. Nothing wrong giving a disadvantaged group a chance.
-- Asian
That’s backwards. Two wrongs do not make a right. Basic ethics. Racism is wrong. Period.
Addressing historical wrong is not racism. Same with addressing poverty of the lower SE class.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 11:12
Subject: Re:Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This agenda is racist.
The American political agenda has been racist, favoring the white men. Nothing wrong giving a disadvantaged group a chance.
-- Asian
That’s backwards. Two wrongs do not make a right. Basic ethics. Racism is wrong. Period.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 11:06
Subject: Re:Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:How is #1 even legal?
Providing 1 million loans that are fully forgivable to Black entrepreneurs and others to start a business.
It is possible to put in place programs to provide access to capital for people that traditionally have a difficult time. I don't think she's saying that her programs will specifically only benefit black men (but not black women or latin men/women or the disabled, or ...), but that these pieces of her plan will more than likely benefit black men. The government already has similar programs in place.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 10:59
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks fairly comprehensive except for not tackling the criminal justice system that disproportionately locks up and executes black men.
https://kamalaharris.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/FMfcgzQXJZxzLGgcKmSNQSXCRKXShwxJ.pdf
1) Providing 1 million loans that are fully forgivable to Black entrepreneurs and others to start a business.
(2) Championing education, training, and mentorship programs that help Black men get good-paying jobs in high-demand industries and lead their communities, including pathways to become teachers.
(3) Supporting a regulatory framework for cryptocurrency and other digital assets so Black men who invest in and own these assets are protected.
(4) Launching a National Health Equity Initiative focused on Black Men that addresses sickle cell disease, diabetes, mental health, prostate cancer, and other health challenges that disproportionately impact them.
(5) Legalizing recreational marijuana and creating opportunities for Black Americans to succeed in this new industry.
1) This is almost certainly illegal to offer forgivable loans with an eligibility criteria based on race. It violates the civil rights act.
2)Sounds like a good idea and can probably get some bipartisan support for this one in congress.
3)I'm not sure how cryptocurrency regulations are an issue specific to Black men.
4)A health research initiative is also something that might get bipartisan support in congress.
5)Legalizing Marijuana is not a free lunch and there are numerous downsides to this idea. higher rates of car accidents, lung cancer, heart disease, etc. It's also kind of insulting to say that recreational drug use is a Black men issue and she threw a lot of men in Jail for Marijuana use as a DA.
Many people do not like identity politics and this may hurt Harris more than it helps her.
Smoking it, like cigarettes, should be banned on public including school grounds and in parks. I’m tired of going to kid sporting events with several cars in the lot filled with pot smoke with some of it leaking out. Poplar Park in Chantilly is one example where you can find a handful of cars like this. I hate when my kids have games there. It happens in other parking lots too but some places, especially where kids are numerous, should be off limits.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 10:45
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:Why do Black men need special protection from cryptocurrency?
Probably due to lack of regulation and predatory financial loans and practices, which are well documented as targeting black people.
However the idea is that crypto could help black business people and entrepreneurs if there are safeguards in place.
There are reports anon black donor gave big donation in crypto and wanted Harris campaign to switch up the narrative on this.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 10:42
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:Why do Black men need special protection from cryptocurrency?
Trolling for votes. Capital Markets don't always work the same for black men. Many entrepreneurial sorts use crypto. A lot of it is just gambling (sh*tcoins) but the point is that Harris / Walz are reaching out to the sort of black men who have that hustling spirit.
This is a hedge against Trump's appeal to those same men
Anonymous
11/04/2024 10:35
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
I am in favor of legalizing, taxing and regulating marijuana. And DUI laws would also apply to marijuana, but would need to be tweaked to make it work effectively for marijuana.
But at any rate, all of this would need to go through Congress and in that process would likely be watered down and half of it not pass anyhow, which makes it pretty funny how some of you are trying to have a freakout over this proposal.
But at any rate, all of this would need to go through Congress and in that process would likely be watered down and half of it not pass anyhow, which makes it pretty funny how some of you are trying to have a freakout over this proposal.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 10:27
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Why do Black men need special protection from cryptocurrency?
Anonymous
11/04/2024 10:19
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:I completely disagree with 2 and 5 but I’m still excited to vote for her for a million other reasons.
Typo correction. Number 3, not 2. I’m completely opposed to legitimizing cryptocurrency and recreational mj. I’m all for educating and training people.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 10:18
Subject: Re:Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:Reminder: Kamala Harris has no business being President of the United States. She is incompetent and not up to the job. If she is elected, nothing will get better. Rather, things will get worse. A vote for Kamala Harris is vote for continued failure and decline. Additionally, you will have to listen to her moronic rambling while your country falls apart.
Reminder - Trump is a convicted felon and rapist who lies about everything including the big lie that he won the 2009 election when dozens of courts found no evidence of this. Many of his former top staff are not voting for him and pointed out what a dishonest, chaotic, manipulative and disloyal leader he was.
The economy has grown three times faster under Biden Harris than it did u see Trump. Top economists have predicted that Trump’s proposed tariffs and tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations will be a disaster for the US economy and average workers.
Many women and babies have died since Trump’s personally appointed Supreme Court picks overturned federal abortion protections. It has been an unmitigated disaster for many women and babies.
A vote for Trump is a vote for chaos, fascism and misogyny.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 10:17
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
I completely disagree with 2 and 5 but I’m still excited to vote for her for a million other reasons.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 10:14
Subject: Harris “opportunity agenda for black men”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I disagree with people calling these measures racist.
Many of the proposals will help many people including black men (if enacted in good ways) - by improving education and mental health services.
I don’t use drugs and don’t love the smell of pot but there is evidence that legalizing pot helps reduce incarceration rates for blacks and whites. I can put up with the smell if it helps people to stay on better paths.
“The data supports that medicinal and recreational marijuana legalization decreases prison rates for Whites and Blacks, but not for Hispanics. Since the prison rate data was collected for all crimes, there could be another crime that increased Hispanic prison rates.”
https://www.uakron.edu/economics/academics/senior-projects/2023/franchescisseniorprojectspring2023.pdf
Pew research shows that Clear majorities of Black Americans favor marijuana legalization, easing of criminal penalties. So if it helps their communities to have more families with parents not in jail for non violent offenses, then I can see the value.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/06/08/clear-majorities-of-black-americans-favor-marijuana-legalization-easing-of-criminal-penalties/
Why should a black person get a loan that a similar white person cannot? How is that not racist? Why not target all low income people and then let all poor people get help rather than just a certain skin color?
This is why every time Dems try to do something for people of color, they fail. A similar program was taken to court in GA. Women get 2% of all venture capital funding. Black women get .03% yet a tiny program to give black women a measly $20,000 to start businesses was taken to court.
The challenge is that we know that banks discriminate against black people getting loans, yet we have no recourse.
It's so unfortunate. Until America deals with its race problem, we will never be a great nation. Just because you don't like to acknowledge systemic racism, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We just want a fair playing field. That's all.