Anonymous
10/28/2024 15:49
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.
This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?
Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).
Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.
Please provide a citation, any citation, to something saying Cornell is mandated to take a certain amount of NYS students. Undoubtedly, the land grant schools give some preference to NYS residents, but they seem intentionally vague on the degree to which that matters, and I've never seen anything from the non-State schools saying that.
Search the school newspaper
So the answer is that you have no actual basis for saying that Cornell is MANDATED to take a CERTAIN AMOUNT of NYS students. What amount is that exactly? It is so, so hard some times to not conclude that many posters on this site are trolls
lol
I found it in the newspaper. not that hard with google.
sheesh.
maybe step away from your computer????
So what's the amount? And if you actually found it, tell us where. Or is your point actually just that the land grant schools give an in-state preference of unknown dimension, which the entire world is already aware of. You seem to be saying something more than that -- that there is a mandate for the private schools as well and that it's a specific number. That is no where
Realize that there are people who come to this site to actually find useful information, to help them and their kids figure out where to apply. When you throw out vague, incorrect information suggesting that the private schools have to give an in-state preference and/or that there is a particular number they are looking for, you are harming kids and their families -- or just wasting everyone's time.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 15:45
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at this NY in-state school's four year matriculation.
Cannot be more real.
Cornell (315 Admitted, 205 Enrolled)
CalTech (6 Admitted, 2 Enrolled)
Berkeley (23 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Brown (37 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
CMU (73 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Northwestern (42 Admitted, 22 Enrolled)
University of Chicago (55 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
UCLA (20 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Columbia (64 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
Dartmouth (14 Admitted, 7 Enrolled)
Duke (25 Admitted, 11 Enrolled)
Georgetown (43 Admitted, 17 Enrolled)
Georgia Tech (69 Admitted, 3 Enrolled)
Harvard (29 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (23 Admitted, 5 Enrolled)
MIT (39 Admitted, 36 Enrolled)
UMich (342 Admitted, 141 Enrolled)
University of Pennsylvania (57 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Princeton (45 Admitted, 25 Enrolled)
Stanford (9 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Yale (39 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
This has to be Bronx Science. Huge Michigan and Cornell feeder.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 15:45
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.
This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?
Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).
Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.
Please provide a citation, any citation, to something saying Cornell is mandated to take a certain amount of NYS students. Undoubtedly, the land grant schools give some preference to NYS residents, but they seem intentionally vague on the degree to which that matters, and I've never seen anything from the non-State schools saying that.
Search the school newspaper
So the answer is that you have no actual basis for saying that Cornell is MANDATED to take a CERTAIN AMOUNT of NYS students. What amount is that exactly? It is so, so hard some times to not conclude that many posters on this site are trolls
lol
I found it in the newspaper. not that hard with google.
sheesh.
maybe step away from your computer????
Anonymous
10/28/2024 15:36
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.
This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?
Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).
Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.
Please provide a citation, any citation, to something saying Cornell is mandated to take a certain amount of NYS students. Undoubtedly, the land grant schools give some preference to NYS residents, but they seem intentionally vague on the degree to which that matters, and I've never seen anything from the non-State schools saying that.
Search the school newspaper
So the answer is that you have no actual basis for saying that Cornell is MANDATED to take a CERTAIN AMOUNT of NYS students. What amount is that exactly? It is so, so hard some times to not conclude that many posters on this site are trolls
Anonymous
10/28/2024 15:16
Subject: Re:Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.
A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!
For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?
Duh. But the experience is different at a small Ivy or SLAC focused on undergrads. You missed the point.
In the long, cold winter, I'd rather have more students on campus.
Cornell is Penn and Dartmouth combined, is it that awful? No really.
I'd rather not be in the middle of nowhere. I'd take Penn or Brown or Yale--somewhere with a small city nearby for great restaurants, theaters, activities...and easy transportation. 7-8K undergrads is about the perfect size.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 12:49
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:You cannot tell whether it is Cornell's preference for IS students or IS student's preference for Cornell. You would need to know # applied for each school.
It's a vicious cycle: The easier it is to get in, the more students apply. The more students apply to Cornell, the more confident Cornell is that qualified students will enroll, hence the higher acceptance rate.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 12:39
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes my DS went to Cornell as a transfer to Arts and Sciences after being rejected (he was waitlisted) from Cornell out of high school to a NY school at Cornell. Was explicitly told would have gotten admission had he been in state.
Explicitly told by whom?
Admissions when he tried to call them to move up on the wait list. All good worked out. Did a year at a southern, easy school and re-applied and preferred Arts and Sciences so worked out. Working now in NYC and applying to MBA programs.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 12:36
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.
This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?
Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).
Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.
Please provide a citation, any citation, to something saying Cornell is mandated to take a certain amount of NYS students. Undoubtedly, the land grant schools give some preference to NYS residents, but they seem intentionally vague on the degree to which that matters, and I've never seen anything from the non-State schools saying that.
Search the school newspaper
Anonymous
10/28/2024 12:24
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.
This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?
Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).
Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.
Please provide a citation, any citation, to something saying Cornell is mandated to take a certain amount of NYS students. Undoubtedly, the land grant schools give some preference to NYS residents, but they seem intentionally vague on the degree to which that matters, and I've never seen anything from the non-State schools saying that.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 11:58
Subject: Re:Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.
A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!
For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?
Have you heard of something called medical engineering? Where do you think all the money is going when you pay thousands to tens of thousands of dollars for tests and scans and implants?
For dinner party purposes with the other low end private school parents, sure, it makes no difference.
But Goldman Sachs and Yale Law and aren't tripping over themselves to grab Agriculture students.
Stop talking about things you don't understand.
Bioengineering (or what you called "medical engineering") is a major that prepare for medical device companies.
Premed students typically avoid bioengineering but go for biology, chemistry, biochemistry, etc.
Other statements are just vague bullshit, dinner party, GS, low end.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 11:54
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Not sure why the Cornell bashing.
But yes, the CALS students are often double major with Dyson (Business)or agribusines and most do commodities related stuff or investment banking/corporate finance related to industrials (ag often falls under industrials vertical at an investment bank).
From an interview perspective, these applicants tend to be more niche. Great banking jobs for all regardless of the specific "college" at Cornell.
Figure out the best fit or match if your kid is applying. Lots of classes out there for them to take and its pretty easy.
But yes, the CALS students are often double major with Dyson (Business)or agribusines and most do commodities related stuff or investment banking/corporate finance related to industrials (ag often falls under industrials vertical at an investment bank).
From an interview perspective, these applicants tend to be more niche. Great banking jobs for all regardless of the specific "college" at Cornell.
Figure out the best fit or match if your kid is applying. Lots of classes out there for them to take and its pretty easy.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 11:51
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.
This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?
Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).
Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.
There aren't undergrads studying at the Streeterville campus.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 11:47
Subject: Re:Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.
A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!
For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?
Have you heard of something called medical engineering? Where do you think all the money is going when you pay thousands to tens of thousands of dollars for tests and scans and implants?
For dinner party purposes with the other low end private school parents, sure, it makes no difference.
But Goldman Sachs and Yale Law and aren't tripping over themselves to grab Agriculture students.
Clearly you don't know Cornell.
Half the Ag students are business students - and they have an entire agribusiness ESG degree that feeds into IBs....
Just stop.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 11:45
Subject: Re:Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.
A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!
For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?
Have you heard of something called medical engineering? Where do you think all the money is going when you pay thousands to tens of thousands of dollars for tests and scans and implants?
For dinner party purposes with the other low end private school parents, sure, it makes no difference.
But Goldman Sachs and Yale Law and aren't tripping over themselves to grab Agriculture students.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 11:44
Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.
This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?
Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).
Northwestern is as well, as part of their tax-exempt status.....and deal with the city of Chicago for their downtown campus.