Anonymous
10/28/2024 13:26
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
I know DMV is pricey, and it’s not as intense as some of the other clubs, but we are looking for something a bit more low key for our daughter. Other than the expense, what is so bad about DMV?
That's exactly what they want: parents who are willing to pay a lot of money for a low-key experience for their daughter. You fit their ideal parent profile, so you should go ahead and shovel the green their way.
Super helpful comment. Go back to Dance Moms.
I knew that you would appreciate it. It's nothing really, I am just praising clubs like DMV for giving people the chance to waste their money. Let me know where the Dance Moms meet and I will try to make it.
How is it wasting money if your kid is doing something they enjoy and getting the chance to get better for the following season? Not being snarky w that question, truly just asking what the negative is if there’s not another option.
There are some posters on these forums who weigh in on almost every volleyball thread with their perspective that volleyball clubs are price gouging and that club owners are greedy and taking advantage of families. Inevitably, they will point to MVSA (whose prices are far below the rest of the "market") as the model for what all clubs should cost. They often point out that Virginia clubs trend more expensive than Maryland clubs and seem to suggest some kind of conspiracy or other shady dealings. When someone counters that this seems like a situation where a small business sets their prices according to what the market will support, they then shift the blame to the parents who are willing to pay for these clubs as part of the "problem".
I'm of the opinion that all of us need to make the decision that is best for our own family and circumstances. If your DD wants to play club volleyball and you are able to afford the team from which they received an offer, then that sounds like the right choice to me. Of course it would be nice if this was all less expensive, but you don't need to be a PhD economist to understand that with the explosion in popularity of volleyball, the demand for clubs far exceeds the supply, and that is resulting in higher prices.
I am one of the posters who considers the cost when advice is requested about any club. The statement I bolded is absolutely disingenuous. Everyone knows that MVSA can offer those prices because all the coaches volunteer their time and expertise. It would be great if all coaches / all clubs would follow the model, but even I understand this ideal to be too idealistic. All coaches understand that their expertise is in demand and some will try to monetize it. There is nothing wrong about being paid to coach and seek opportunities in clubs that offer a coaching stipend.
In terms of expenses, clubs that pay their coaches will definitely spend more money. There was a pretty good discussion (on a different thread) about how much extra a club needs to spend to offer a player experience similar to that in MVSA, including some profit. There are just a few clubs in the DMV area that charge fees in line with the analysis on that thread (kudos to those clubs for being reasonable). Most of the clubs (especially in VA) charge thousands more in club fees that cannot be justified any other way than greed (something that you like to call "market" or "demand"). You are free to pay them as much as they ask for, I am also free to question their fee structure.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 13:14
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
I know DMV is pricey, and it’s not as intense as some of the other clubs, but we are looking for something a bit more low key for our daughter. Other than the expense, what is so bad about DMV?
That's exactly what they want: parents who are willing to pay a lot of money for a low-key experience for their daughter. You fit their ideal parent profile, so you should go ahead and shovel the green their way.
Super helpful comment. Go back to Dance Moms.
I knew that you would appreciate it. It's nothing really, I am just praising clubs like DMV for giving people the chance to waste their money. Let me know where the Dance Moms meet and I will try to make it.
How is it wasting money if your kid is doing something they enjoy and getting the chance to get better for the following season? Not being snarky w that question, truly just asking what the negative is if there’s not another option.
There are some posters on these forums who weigh in on almost every volleyball thread with their perspective that volleyball clubs are price gouging and that club owners are greedy and taking advantage of families. Inevitably, they will point to MVSA (whose prices are far below the rest of the "market") as the model for what all clubs should cost. They often point out that Virginia clubs trend more expensive than Maryland clubs and seem to suggest some kind of conspiracy or other shady dealings. When someone counters that this seems like a situation where a small business sets their prices according to what the market will support, they then shift the blame to the parents who are willing to pay for these clubs as part of the "problem".
I'm of the opinion that all of us need to make the decision that is best for our own family and circumstances. If your DD wants to play club volleyball and you are able to afford the team from which they received an offer, then that sounds like the right choice to me. Of course it would be nice if this was all less expensive, but you don't need to be a PhD economist to understand that with the explosion in popularity of volleyball, the demand for clubs far exceeds the supply, and that is resulting in higher prices.
DC is just getting into volleyball and to be fair, I am getting a bit of sticker shock.
There just doesn't seem to be much price competition. I don't see this as much in basketball or soccer. Is volleyball a "country club" sport or a niche sport for rich kids?
Anonymous
10/28/2024 13:13
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
I know DMV is pricey, and it’s not as intense as some of the other clubs, but we are looking for something a bit more low key for our daughter. Other than the expense, what is so bad about DMV?
That's exactly what they want: parents who are willing to pay a lot of money for a low-key experience for their daughter. You fit their ideal parent profile, so you should go ahead and shovel the green their way.
Super helpful comment. Go back to Dance Moms.
I knew that you would appreciate it. It's nothing really, I am just praising clubs like DMV for giving people the chance to waste their money. Let me know where the Dance Moms meet and I will try to make it.
How is it wasting money if your kid is doing something they enjoy and getting the chance to get better for the following season? Not being snarky w that question, truly just asking what the negative is if there’s not another option.
There are some posters on these forums who weigh in on almost every volleyball thread with their perspective that volleyball clubs are price gouging and that club owners are greedy and taking advantage of families. Inevitably, they will point to MVSA (whose prices are far below the rest of the "market") as the model for what all clubs should cost. They often point out that Virginia clubs trend more expensive than Maryland clubs and seem to suggest some kind of conspiracy or other shady dealings. When someone counters that this seems like a situation where a small business sets their prices according to what the market will support, they then shift the blame to the parents who are willing to pay for these clubs as part of the "problem".
I'm of the opinion that all of us need to make the decision that is best for our own family and circumstances. If your DD wants to play club volleyball and you are able to afford the team from which they received an offer, then that sounds like the right choice to me. Of course it would be nice if this was all less expensive, but you don't need to be a PhD economist to understand that with the explosion in popularity of volleyball, the demand for clubs far exceeds the supply, and that is resulting in higher prices.
this is very well said for not only volleyball but multiple sports and hey private schools, colleges etc....at the end of the day the price is set to market
Anonymous
10/28/2024 12:28
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
I know DMV is pricey, and it’s not as intense as some of the other clubs, but we are looking for something a bit more low key for our daughter. Other than the expense, what is so bad about DMV?
That's exactly what they want: parents who are willing to pay a lot of money for a low-key experience for their daughter. You fit their ideal parent profile, so you should go ahead and shovel the green their way.
Super helpful comment. Go back to Dance Moms.
I knew that you would appreciate it. It's nothing really, I am just praising clubs like DMV for giving people the chance to waste their money. Let me know where the Dance Moms meet and I will try to make it.
How is it wasting money if your kid is doing something they enjoy and getting the chance to get better for the following season? Not being snarky w that question, truly just asking what the negative is if there’s not another option.
There are some posters on these forums who weigh in on almost every volleyball thread with their perspective that volleyball clubs are price gouging and that club owners are greedy and taking advantage of families. Inevitably, they will point to MVSA (whose prices are far below the rest of the "market") as the model for what all clubs should cost. They often point out that Virginia clubs trend more expensive than Maryland clubs and seem to suggest some kind of conspiracy or other shady dealings. When someone counters that this seems like a situation where a small business sets their prices according to what the market will support, they then shift the blame to the parents who are willing to pay for these clubs as part of the "problem".
I'm of the opinion that all of us need to make the decision that is best for our own family and circumstances. If your DD wants to play club volleyball and you are able to afford the team from which they received an offer, then that sounds like the right choice to me. Of course it would be nice if this was all less expensive, but you don't need to be a PhD economist to understand that with the explosion in popularity of volleyball, the demand for clubs far exceeds the supply, and that is resulting in higher prices.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 11:26
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
I know DMV is pricey, and it’s not as intense as some of the other clubs, but we are looking for something a bit more low key for our daughter. Other than the expense, what is so bad about DMV?
That's exactly what they want: parents who are willing to pay a lot of money for a low-key experience for their daughter. You fit their ideal parent profile, so you should go ahead and shovel the green their way.
Super helpful comment. Go back to Dance Moms.
I knew that you would appreciate it. It's nothing really, I am just praising clubs like DMV for giving people the chance to waste their money. Let me know where the Dance Moms meet and I will try to make it.
How is it wasting money if your kid is doing something they enjoy and getting the chance to get better for the following season? Not being snarky w that question, truly just asking what the negative is if there’s not another option.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 10:30
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
I know DMV is pricey, and it’s not as intense as some of the other clubs, but we are looking for something a bit more low key for our daughter. Other than the expense, what is so bad about DMV?
That's exactly what they want: parents who are willing to pay a lot of money for a low-key experience for their daughter. You fit their ideal parent profile, so you should go ahead and shovel the green their way.
Super helpful comment. Go back to Dance Moms.
I knew that you would appreciate it. It's nothing really, I am just praising clubs like DMV for giving people the chance to waste their money. Let me know where the Dance Moms meet and I will try to make it.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 07:41
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
I know DMV is pricey, and it’s not as intense as some of the other clubs, but we are looking for something a bit more low key for our daughter. Other than the expense, what is so bad about DMV?
That's exactly what they want: parents who are willing to pay a lot of money for a low-key experience for their daughter. You fit their ideal parent profile, so you should go ahead and shovel the green their way.
If your daughter just wants to play and improve to play in high school. If DMV is the only offer, then I see no reason not to take it. Practice and coaching is better than losing the year and not improving.
Anonymous
10/28/2024 00:23
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
Is DMV Academy the same as Academy? I’m getting confused with all the names.
No, they are different clubs. DMV Academy (https://www.dmvsportsmanagement.com/page/show/7274206-dmv-volleyball-academy-club-season-) practices in Rockville and Academy (https://academy-volleyball.sportngin.com/home mostly at North Chevy Chase Elementary School. DMV Elite seems to be owned by the same group as DMV Academy, although it has never been clear to me why they are treated as two separate clubs.
Anonymous
10/27/2024 22:24
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
I know DMV is pricey, and it’s not as intense as some of the other clubs, but we are looking for something a bit more low key for our daughter. Other than the expense, what is so bad about DMV?
That's exactly what they want: parents who are willing to pay a lot of money for a low-key experience for their daughter. You fit their ideal parent profile, so you should go ahead and shovel the green their way.
Super helpful comment. Go back to Dance Moms.
Anonymous
10/27/2024 22:21
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
Is DMV Academy the same as Academy? I’m getting confused with all the names.
Anonymous
10/27/2024 22:21
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
I know DMV is pricey, and it’s not as intense as some of the other clubs, but we are looking for something a bit more low key for our daughter. Other than the expense, what is so bad about DMV?
That's exactly what they want: parents who are willing to pay a lot of money for a low-key experience for their daughter. You fit their ideal parent profile, so you should go ahead and shovel the green their way.
Anonymous
10/27/2024 22:18
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
This is all second-hand from what I read on this forum, but the DMV teams some have watched were just average. A lot of people commented that they wouldn't want to pay $4500 for club fees when others are charging about $3000 on average. It is probably low key in that the skill level is lower and there is less pressure than other clubs, but the downside is that if your DD is really good, it might not be the right level club for her. If she's happy just to keep playing, then maybe it's okay.
Anonymous
10/27/2024 22:18
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PSA If your player is still without a club on Sunday morning — you may still find a backup or makeup tryout on Sunday/Monday. You probably need to get up early and get after it this year as tryout numbers seem to have escalated beyond all reason.
Check out the spreadsheet here: https://www.chrva.org/page/show/3927262-chrva-girls-volleyball.
<see click here for club tryout dates>
And checkout the instagrams, facebooks and webpages for clubs that are labeled second or third tier on this forum.
See tbe spreadsheet but off the top of my head in VA — Vienna, American are examples of clubs with scheduled Sunday tryouts.Good luck to all the volleyball parents!!!
Which clubs are considered “second or third tier”? My daughter just wants to play and would be happy to get an offer to any club—we’re new to this, so not sure which ones are considered better
You need to provide your location to receive useful information. As a general idea, you can look up team standings using this link: https://www.advancedeventsystems.com/rankings/Female/U13/aes. You might have to change the age group to match what your daughter is trying out for. Change the year to the previous season (you won't see much for the current season), then pick the Chesapeake region. You get a list of clubs, but most are not going to be in driving distance to you. However, you can figure out how each individual club did during the last season at the age level you are interested in.
Anonymous
10/27/2024 22:12
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬
I know DMV is pricey, and it’s not as intense as some of the other clubs, but we are looking for something a bit more low key for our daughter. Other than the expense, what is so bad about DMV?
Anonymous
10/27/2024 21:30
Subject: Volleyball tryouts in real time
Anonymous wrote:DMV Volleyball Academy offers are out for 14U.
My daughter received and offer. The reviews on other threads aren’t very positive 😬