Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ Yep, it's all digitized, highly secure documents and electronic records nowadays. And the DNA resources are already in place worldwide to confirm that claimed blood relatives actually are related.

People talking about showing 'papers' are out of touch. The digital infrastructure has been put in place for years by both Democrats and Republicans. All that's lacking now is the political desire to enforce the law. And that's the primary issue on the ballot in a couple weeks.

again, I am walking down the street, I "look" like an immigrant. I don't have any "papers" with me, an enforcement officer approaches me. What is the law here? What am I expected to do? What are my rights?

That's a fun fantasy land conversation, but let's focus on how it actually works. Everyone who is known illegal has registered their whereabouts. We start there by removing them, and also focus on local law enforcement arrests for other crimes like assault or drug possession, and remove those. Then you inform the community that everyone who voluntarily leaves will have their period of unlawful presence waived, and that incentivizes several millions to leave on their own, because then they will have a chance to enter legally someday without that period of illegality creating a ban on admission.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ Yep, it's all digitized, highly secure documents and electronic records nowadays. And the DNA resources are already in place worldwide to confirm that claimed blood relatives actually are related.

People talking about showing 'papers' are out of touch. The digital infrastructure has been put in place for years by both Democrats and Republicans. All that's lacking now is the political desire to enforce the law. And that's the primary issue on the ballot in a couple weeks.

again, I am walking down the street, I "look" like an immigrant. I don't have any "papers" with me, an enforcement officer approaches me. What is the law here? What am I expected to do? What are my rights?

Nobody will ever do that. In some countries they actually do do that so you just walk around with ID.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ Yep, it's all digitized, highly secure documents and electronic records nowadays. And the DNA resources are already in place worldwide to confirm that claimed blood relatives actually are related.

People talking about showing 'papers' are out of touch. The digital infrastructure has been put in place for years by both Democrats and Republicans. All that's lacking now is the political desire to enforce the law. And that's the primary issue on the ballot in a couple weeks.

again, I am walking down the street, I "look" like an immigrant. I don't have any "papers" with me, an enforcement officer approaches me. What is the law here? What am I expected to do? What are my rights?

Nobody will ever do that. In some countries they actually do do that so you just walk around with ID.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ Yep, it's all digitized, highly secure documents and electronic records nowadays. And the DNA resources are already in place worldwide to confirm that claimed blood relatives actually are related.

People talking about showing 'papers' are out of touch. The digital infrastructure has been put in place for years by both Democrats and Republicans. All that's lacking now is the political desire to enforce the law. And that's the primary issue on the ballot in a couple weeks.

again, I am walking down the street, I "look" like an immigrant. I don't have any "papers" with me, an enforcement officer approaches me. What is the law here? What am I expected to do? What are my rights?

That's a fun fantasy land conversation, but let's focus on how it actually works. Everyone who is known illegal has registered their whereabouts. We start there by removing them, and also focus on local law enforcement arrests for other crimes like assault or drug possession, and remove those. Then you inform the community that everyone who voluntarily leaves will have their period of unlawful presence waived, and that incentivizes several millions to leave on their own, because then they will have a chance to enter legally someday without that period of illegality creating a ban on admission.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, as long as you have your papers in order it shouldn’t be that big of a deal.
Just don’t be caught out without them.
Have several copies in separate places in case of natural disasters.
Make sure you don’t upset anyone that might be willing to cast doubt on your immigration status. That includes all of the local bigots that you’ve never given much thought to because they obviously are “okay with” you.
Make sure your family members have their ducks in a row so their possible mess doesn’t come back to you.
Have lots of acquaintances that will vouch that you’re “one of the good ones”.
Easy breezy.

Dystopian hellscape. Vote for Harris please y'all! Who wants to live in Gilead?

"Papers. Papers please." Yeah, that's going to be popular every time you leave the house.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself. I've been a Democrat forever and agreed with the party's common-sense approach of allowing immigration based on calculations of labor market demands. That was the policy until the middle of the Obama years. That's when he pivoted from the correct stance that he "couldn't simply wave a magic wand" and give legal status to millions of unlawfully present aliens (as they are called in the Immigration and Nationality Act... also known as our country's law). Then he waved the magic Executive Order wand and the party got skewered by the famous SNL "Schoolhouse Rocks" skit that portrayed him pushing the legislative bill down the steps. That's when the Democrats jumped the shark on immigration.

If we end up with Stephen Miller as DHS Secretary or running ICE, that's won't be my beef with a Trump 2.0 administration. As a finance grad, I'm 100,000% more worried about tariffs, and the fact that we've allowed in way more unskilled labor than the market actually needed. I couldn't give a crap about people who falsified their way here. The border admissions and runaway use of humanitarian parole is out of control.

Anyone who entered based on some sort of fraud should be removed from the US, or even have their falsely gained citizenship. Everyone that they filed for as a relative should also be fruit form a poisonous tree and also removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDSeb2zHQ0

The brownshirts won't be able to distinguish who is here legally or not, so you will see a lot of people of color, who were born here or here legally, being affected by this.

I just said it. Biometrics. Every legal encounter since probably 2022 or 2023 has included fingerscans. Anyone who sought permission to enter the United States voluntarily gave us their biometrics. Anyone who entered illegally but later adjusted status to a legal one also gave biometrics.

Anyone who can't give biometrics is going to be investigated as unlawfully present. I'm not sure how hard that is to understand.

So if I am a legal person but not in the biometricts system, what prevents me from being detained?

If you are legal, you have a record based on your A-number. If you are illegal and the United States has had an encounter with you in the past, you probably also have a file. This election is really not a vote about whether the records infrastructure is in place. It is. Its a vote about whether we chose to apply the immigration laws passed by Congress. We'll all know the results soon enough.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ Yep, it's all digitized, highly secure documents and electronic records nowadays. And the DNA resources are already in place worldwide to confirm that claimed blood relatives actually are related.

People talking about showing 'papers' are out of touch. The digital infrastructure has been put in place for years by both Democrats and Republicans. All that's lacking now is the political desire to enforce the law. And that's the primary issue on the ballot in a couple weeks.

again, I am walking down the street, I "look" like an immigrant. I don't have any "papers" with me, an enforcement officer approaches me. What is the law here? What am I expected to do? What are my rights?

Anonymous wrote:Stephen Miller is talking about turbocharging the denaturalization process for US citizens of foreign origin in 2025 if Trump is elected.

I wonder if Sebastian Gorka will be included in this process.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ Yep, it's all digitized, highly secure documents and electronic records nowadays. And the DNA resources are already in place worldwide to confirm that claimed blood relatives actually are related.

People talking about showing 'papers' are out of touch. The digital infrastructure has been put in place for years by both Democrats and Republicans. All that's lacking now is the political desire to enforce the law. And that's the primary issue on the ballot in a couple weeks.

again, I am walking down the street, I "look" like an immigrant. I don't have any "papers" with me, an enforcement officer approaches me. What is the law here? What am I expected to do? What are my rights?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself. I've been a Democrat forever and agreed with the party's common-sense approach of allowing immigration based on calculations of labor market demands. That was the policy until the middle of the Obama years. That's when he pivoted from the correct stance that he "couldn't simply wave a magic wand" and give legal status to millions of unlawfully present aliens (as they are called in the Immigration and Nationality Act... also known as our country's law). Then he waved the magic Executive Order wand and the party got skewered by the famous SNL "Schoolhouse Rocks" skit that portrayed him pushing the legislative bill down the steps. That's when the Democrats jumped the shark on immigration.

If we end up with Stephen Miller as DHS Secretary or running ICE, that's won't be my beef with a Trump 2.0 administration. As a finance grad, I'm 100,000% more worried about tariffs, and the fact that we've allowed in way more unskilled labor than the market actually needed. I couldn't give a crap about people who falsified their way here. The border admissions and runaway use of humanitarian parole is out of control.

Anyone who entered based on some sort of fraud should be removed from the US, or even have their falsely gained citizenship. Everyone that they filed for as a relative should also be fruit form a poisonous tree and also removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDSeb2zHQ0

The brownshirts won't be able to distinguish who is here legally or not, so you will see a lot of people of color, who were born here or here legally, being affected by this.

I just said it. Biometrics. Every legal encounter since probably 2022 or 2023 has included fingerscans. Anyone who sought permission to enter the United States voluntarily gave us their biometrics. Anyone who entered illegally but later adjusted status to a legal one also gave biometrics.

Anyone who can't give biometrics is going to be investigated as unlawfully present. I'm not sure how hard that is to understand.

So if I am a legal person but not in the biometricts system, what prevents me from being detained?

Anonymous wrote:^^ Yep, it's all digitized, highly secure documents and electronic records nowadays. And the DNA resources are already in place worldwide to confirm that claimed blood relatives actually are related.

People talking about showing 'papers' are out of touch. The digital infrastructure has been put in place for years by both Democrats and Republicans. All that's lacking now is the political desire to enforce the law. And that's the primary issue on the ballot in a couple weeks.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself. I've been a Democrat forever and agreed with the party's common-sense approach of allowing immigration based on calculations of labor market demands. That was the policy until the middle of the Obama years. That's when he pivoted from the correct stance that he "couldn't simply wave a magic wand" and give legal status to millions of unlawfully present aliens (as they are called in the Immigration and Nationality Act... also known as our country's law). Then he waved the magic Executive Order wand and the party got skewered by the famous SNL "Schoolhouse Rocks" skit that portrayed him pushing the legislative bill down the steps. That's when the Democrats jumped the shark on immigration.

If we end up with Stephen Miller as DHS Secretary or running ICE, that's won't be my beef with a Trump 2.0 administration. As a finance grad, I'm 100,000% more worried about tariffs, and the fact that we've allowed in way more unskilled labor than the market actually needed. I couldn't give a crap about people who falsified their way here. The border admissions and runaway use of humanitarian parole is out of control.

Anyone who entered based on some sort of fraud should be removed from the US, or even have their falsely gained citizenship. Everyone that they filed for as a relative should also be fruit form a poisonous tree and also removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDSeb2zHQ0

The brownshirts won't be able to distinguish who is here legally or not, so you will see a lot of people of color, who were born here or here legally, being affected by this.

I just said it. Biometrics. Every legal encounter since probably 2022 or 2023 has included fingerscans. Anyone who sought permission to enter the United States voluntarily gave us their biometrics. Anyone who entered illegally but later adjusted status to a legal one also gave biometrics.

Anyone who can't give biometrics is going to be investigated as unlawfully present. I'm not sure how hard that is to understand.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself. I've been a Democrat forever and agreed with the party's common-sense approach of allowing immigration based on calculations of labor market demands. That was the policy until the middle of the Obama years. That's when he pivoted from the correct stance that he "couldn't simply wave a magic wand" and give legal status to millions of unlawfully present aliens (as they are called in the Immigration and Nationality Act... also known as our country's law). Then he waved the magic Executive Order wand and the party got skewered by the famous SNL "Schoolhouse Rocks" skit that portrayed him pushing the legislative bill down the steps. That's when the Democrats jumped the shark on immigration.

If we end up with Stephen Miller as DHS Secretary or running ICE, that's won't be my beef with a Trump 2.0 administration. As a finance grad, I'm 100,000% more worried about tariffs, and the fact that we've allowed in way more unskilled labor than the market actually needed. I couldn't give a crap about people who falsified their way here. The border admissions and runaway use of humanitarian parole is out of control.

Anyone who entered based on some sort of fraud should be removed from the US, or even have their falsely gained citizenship. Everyone that they filed for as a relative should also be fruit form a poisonous tree and also removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDSeb2zHQ0

The brownshirts won't be able to distinguish who is here legally or not, so you will see a lot of people of color, who were born here or here legally, being affected by this.