Anonymous
10/21/2024 11:12
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.
But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school
My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.
Troll elsewhere
DP: They may not be trolling. UVA in state, Mich, GTech are all likelies (prep school defines that as 75-95% chance) for the top few stem kids in each class our of 170 students. Almost all end up choosing ivy/+ for Engineering/CS (The last 3 super stars went to Stanford, Penn Viper, MIT) but these very top kids almost always get in all 3 of the likely ones. We get detailed scoir reports and it is easy to figure out who is who since you can select by years.
Again, it is not the fact that they were accepted. It is the misunderstanding of what is meant by "safety."
Anonymous
10/21/2024 11:07
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Yes.
Several male CS, engineering or business kids from our private.
Class of 2024.
Should have had a better list of schools tbh.
And that are attending schools like Fordham; SMU; UC-Boulder and Wisconsin.
Full pay.
4.0uw; 35 ACT; national recognition; musical talent; ranked athletes.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 11:03
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Yes.
Several male CS, engineering or business kids from our private.
Class of 2024.
Should have had a better list of schools tbh.
Several male CS, engineering or business kids from our private.
Class of 2024.
Should have had a better list of schools tbh.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 11:01
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.
But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school
My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.
Troll elsewhere
DP: They may not be trolling. UVA in state, Mich, GTech are all likelies (prep school defines that as 75-95% chance) for the top few stem kids in each class our of 170 students. Almost all end up choosing ivy/+ for Engineering/CS (The last 3 super stars went to Stanford, Penn Viper, MIT) but these very top kids almost always get in all 3 of the likely ones. We get detailed scoir reports and it is easy to figure out who is who since you can select by years.
UVA and UMich aren't safeties for even normal smart kids.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:59
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.
But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school
My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.
Troll elsewhere
DP: They may not be trolling. UVA in state, Mich, GTech are all likelies (prep school defines that as 75-95% chance) for the top few stem kids in each class our of 170 students. Almost all end up choosing ivy/+ for Engineering/CS (The last 3 super stars went to Stanford, Penn Viper, MIT) but these very top kids almost always get in all 3 of the likely ones. We get detailed scoir reports and it is easy to figure out who is who since you can select by years.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:55
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.
But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school
My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.
Troll elsewhere
NP-It's not inconceivable
I can see as a match/likely if stats are 75%+ percentile, but NOT a safety.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:53
Subject: Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
I think people aren't understanding true safeties. It sounds like OP was looking for kids who applied to all T25 and then attending more like a 80-100.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:53
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
The main thing I'd want to know is the number and type of schools applied to.
If you applied to one safety and 19 lottery schools and ended up at the safety, that's not unexpected. Your strategy was flawed.
If you applied to three safeties, six targets, and four reaches, and ended up at a safety... that's more interesting because your strategy wasn't obviously bad (though perhaps you misjudged the targets).
If you applied to one safety and 19 lottery schools and ended up at the safety, that's not unexpected. Your strategy was flawed.
If you applied to three safeties, six targets, and four reaches, and ended up at a safety... that's more interesting because your strategy wasn't obviously bad (though perhaps you misjudged the targets).
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:49
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.
But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school
My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.
Troll elsewhere
NP-It's not inconceivable
The acceptances are believable. The issue is the PPs mis-defining what is a safety. Those schools are not safeties for anyone, let alone for CS.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:47
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
NP. A true safety *for a high stats student* has an acceptance rate well over 50%.
OP here. A safety a school where the student has an 80%+ chance.
A match is 50-50.
Does anyone have an 80%+ of being admitted to computer science at Maryland?
Pp. Yes, exactly.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:45
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.
But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school
My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.
Troll elsewhere
NP-It's not inconceivable
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:45
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
NP. A true safety *for a high stats student* has an acceptance rate well over 50%.
OP here. A safety a school where the student has an 80%+ chance.
A match is 50-50.
Does anyone have an 80%+ of being admitted to computer science at Maryland?
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:45
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.
But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school
My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.
Troll elsewhere
See? This is how ignorant and narrow-minded you are.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:44
Subject: Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DS had 4.0 GPA with 1590 SAT, and was accepted to an Ivy. He turned it down to attend George Mason on a full tuition+room/board scholarship because we would have to pay almost 85K per year, and we didn't receive any financial aid at the Ivy where he was accepted. Fast-forward to today, he is currently at UVA medical school.
Why have your kid apply to an Ivy at all...you knew you were not going to receive any FA if you had used the NPC.
It's kind of a pain in the a** to apply to some of these schools, so better to avoid all that if it is never an option.
Not the person you're quoting, but I'm guessing the full ride at George Mason was unexpected. Perhaps the decision would have been different if the choice was between full pay at Ivy vs. full pay at GM. This makes sense to me.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:43
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.
But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school
My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.
Troll elsewhere