Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 12:46     Subject: Re:Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
For those of you who didn't read the ONE AND ONLY sticky thread for this forum on DCUM:

"Posters in this forum tend to have very strong preferences between adopting from a rescue or shelter or from a breeder. Contrary to the apparent beliefs of some posters, there is no "right" side of this debate. Neither is there a "wrong" side. There are valid arguments for both options. Please allow posters to ask questions or discuss the option that they have determined is best for their family and don't seize on such discussions to promote your own favorite option.

If someone is discussing obtaining a pet from a breeder, please don't attempt to shame them into choosing a shelter instead.

If someone is discussing obtaining a pet from a shelter, please don't argue that a breeder is better (though I don't know that I've actually ever seen this happen in this forum)."


Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 12:35     Subject: Re:Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The deliberate blindness of the rescue extremists to the puppy mills their rescues support is always astonishing to me.

Not all rescue are the same.
I haven't seen any puppies from puppy mills coming through the rescue I foster for, all puppies are mutts. I have seen however moms from puppy mills - and no way I would ever support puppy mills or rescues buying pups from them.
And you better look at the mirror and evaluate your own blindness.


+1

My sweet little toy poodle was a mama rescued from a puppy mill, and she ended up in rescue which is how we came to adopt her. When she had a stillborn pup, they horrible puppy mill people threw her out. Lots and lots of trauma, poor thing. She is doing amazing now, but it was a long road and adjusting was very hard for her. She'd never even been in a house before coming into rescue. She was terrified of everything. Do not support puppy mills in any way -- what happens to the dogs there is horrific.


No, darling. This is the bill of goods you were sold. They all come with a nice story like this. All the “rescued from a puppy mill” stories are about auctions. They’re not SEAL team 6-ing the puppy mills. They’re going to auctions.

5-6 yo dams from puppy mills are not being sold at auctions, rather dumped on the street/surrendered to shelters in best case scenarios. No SEAL team required to save them, just a lot of time and resources for rehabilitation. And I'm going to call that effort "rescue", it's not a sale of goods
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 07:54     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.


If you look at petfinder and put a breed in it shows you those breeds in shelters or rescue groups around your radius.
There are multiple shelters/groups within a 2 hour drive of DC that have plenty of dogs that are not pitbull mixes.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 07:49     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
You may be different op but I think most people who say things like this are not vegan, not vegetarian, don’t even try to but ethically sourced meat and dairy.

If you are someone like that who looks down on people for their golden doodles you need shut all the way up.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 07:43     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s an oxymoron at all. If you only want rescue dogs, then that’s your choice, but other people make other choices for their own very good personal reasons.

To give an example, as someone who grew up without dogs, I was much more comfortable getting my first two dogs from a wonderful breeder who temperament tested the puppies, provided support, etc. This experience allowed me to learn a lot about dogs and training and dog ownership. My next two dogs happen to be rescue pups, but I don’t think I could’ve started there. I would not have had the confidence or knowledge to take on that endeavor if I hadn’t gotten my two dogs from this amazing, caring invested breeder.

To say that reputable breeder is an oxymoron is a very narrow view of the entire existence of dogs in my opinion.



Same. I was clueless when deciding to get our first dog and our kids were young. Add on top of that allergies and that no shelter around us would allow adoption to homes with young kids.

We found an amazing cocker breeder who shows her dogs all the time. She would have 1-2 litters a year (from different dogs) and was very selective on placement.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 07:30     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.


+1. I really wish people would just respect the decisions of others the way they would want their own decisions to be respected too. A family with young children should not be pushed by a rescue to take in a pit bull mix under the guise of adopt don’t shop and that it will be fine if given a good home. We have one rescue dog and one purebred from a reputable breeder. Both have been great, but both have had unique challenges.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 06:29     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The rescuses are charging and reselling dogs. Be real.


Complete and total ignorance ^^


Then rescues, especially non-profits should not be charging fees. They are reselling dogs.

Are working for free? Have access to free food, transportation and medical care? If not - why do you think rescue employees should work for free and how do you think cost of vet care/neutering/vaccination for rescue animals should be covered?


Again, you are describing a business that is profiting off the sale of dogs.

There is no profit though. The fees go right back into caring for the dogs.
I rescued my dog in June from lab rescue. He’s a chocolate lab. He came to them with a broken leg. They had his leg fixed by a vet then he was fostered for months and on bed rest while he healed. You think my $350 covered the vet costs involved with a broken leg surgery?

Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 06:07     Subject: Re:Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The deliberate blindness of the rescue extremists to the puppy mills their rescues support is always astonishing to me.

Not all rescue are the same.
I haven't seen any puppies from puppy mills coming through the rescue I foster for, all puppies are mutts. I have seen however moms from puppy mills - and no way I would ever support puppy mills or rescues buying pups from them.
And you better look at the mirror and evaluate your own blindness.


+1

My sweet little toy poodle was a mama rescued from a puppy mill, and she ended up in rescue which is how we came to adopt her. When she had a stillborn pup, they horrible puppy mill people threw her out. Lots and lots of trauma, poor thing. She is doing amazing now, but it was a long road and adjusting was very hard for her. She'd never even been in a house before coming into rescue. She was terrified of everything. Do not support puppy mills in any way -- what happens to the dogs there is horrific.


No, darling. This is the bill of goods you were sold. They all come with a nice story like this. All the “rescued from a puppy mill” stories are about auctions. They’re not SEAL team 6-ing the puppy mills. They’re going to auctions.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 05:20     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
We went to a shelter first and there were only Pitbulls or pitbull mixes. I wasn’t bribing one home.
I don’t care what others think. They can bring whatever dog they want to their home. So can I.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 02:59     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:Yes

I personally believe that all domestic pet breeding should be banned by federal law and should apply to anyone who purposefully or “accidentally” breeds any domestic animal that is or can be kept as a pet.


I couldn’t agree more w/all of this. 👍🏽
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:58     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The rescuses are charging and reselling dogs. Be real.


Complete and total ignorance ^^


Then rescues, especially non-profits should not be charging fees. They are reselling dogs.

Are working for free? Have access to free food, transportation and medical care? If not - why do you think rescue employees should work for free and how do you think cost of vet care/neutering/vaccination for rescue animals should be covered?


Again, you are describing a business that is profiting off the sale of dogs.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2024 23:40     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The rescuses are charging and reselling dogs. Be real.


Complete and total ignorance ^^


Then rescues, especially non-profits should not be charging fees. They are reselling dogs.

Are working for free? Have access to free food, transportation and medical care? If not - why do you think rescue employees should work for free and how do you think cost of vet care/neutering/vaccination for rescue animals should be covered?
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2024 23:01     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The rescuses are charging and reselling dogs. Be real.


Complete and total ignorance ^^


Then rescues, especially non-profits should not be charging fees. They are reselling dogs.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 09:01     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:I live in Ward 3 among many people who think like OP, whose stupid “hound mix” [read: 75% pit bull,I have eyes David] from the shelter by way of SC or WV will try to kill my pets every afternoon.

PP is correct that OP-like thinking and endless posturing on social media is going to swing the election to Trump. As a Dem with critical thinking skills, this makes me sad.

Quit trying to legislate shit that goes on in other people’s homes, OP & Friends! And frankly the fewer reactive pit bull “hounds” we have running around CCDC, the better. They -should- be euthanized.


My doormat dog who'd let anyone slap her for free got attacked by a purebred rottweiler. Sit your ignorant ass all the way down and cool off.
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 19:51     Subject: Is “ reputable breeder” an oxymoron?
Anonymous wrote:The rescuses are charging and reselling dogs. Be real.


Complete and total ignorance ^^