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Anonymous wrote:VYSA Club meetings have been going on around the state, and they mentioned that US Soccer is doing a "retreat" on 10.22. They are surely talking about this there. It came up in our group session and quite clearly the VYSA President is in favor of SY. A couple of administrators were talking to him afterward and I was close enough to get the impression that a lot of people at the clubs are opposed to the change but the message did not seem to be getting through to VYSA leadership, during the meeting or afterward. The general feeling is that travel soccer is not a social experience with kids from your class at school like rec soccer is (which does not mean there are no friendships or social involvements, just that you're not as likely to have your school BFF on your travel team as you are in rec) and that either way, you still have a kid 12 months older than another kid on the team, whether it is January and December or August and July, and this just shakes things up for no obvious benefit at the travel level.

At the club level, I'd be curious if there's some disconnect between those who have an equity interest in the club and those who don't. If they do, they might be thinking a potential increase in kids over the long run means more money for them. If they don't, they may be thinking this is nothing but a headache for them running a bigger tryout and dealing with complaining parents.

you realize most clubs operate as a non-profit and therefore don't have an equity interest

Propaganda machine and salesman are out in full force today...damn full moon...

That other thread is a toxic dumpster fire. It will get to 1,000 pages of that garbage before November 22nd.

For the sake of the travel soccer kids out there, I hope the Aug. 1 - July 31 change goes through - it makes sense. Kids want to play with their friends and classmates. Under the current system, the "ber" months have to decide if they are going to play a grade older, and this does deter kids from playing travel soccer every year.

I have a U14 who would not be affected by a change, she plays with her grade and has had a fabulous "career" over the years, deepening the bonds with her friends and classmates. If she were one a "ber" baby, she wouldn't be playing travel, and it saddens me to think of all the memories she wouldn't have had. Soccer has been a great part of her childhood.

On the other hand, I have a U12 who is a "ber" baby, has been playing with the older kids since he was in 2nd grade. It's ok, but he doesn't have the same connections with his teammates that she does. He certainly has a great time at recess when he gets to play with his friends on the U11 team. He sooo wishes he could play on their team. I do hope this change happens for the travel soccer "bers" out there.

As for the drama with the club teams, from that other thread it sounds like they are going to struggle to fill teams, teams will be filled with benchwarmers, coaches and directors are going to be thrown into chaos, teams are going to fail, and bankruptcies are eminent. Wow, the gates of hell have been opened, what is soccer thinking?

In all seriousness, clubs will go on filling teams and taking money in. The system won't collapse. I feel bad for the coaches and club directors that have to listen to this drama.

It is not happening. U.S. Soccer is not interested in changing BY to SY.

Anonymous wrote:VYSA Club meetings have been going on around the state, and they mentioned that US Soccer is doing a "retreat" on 10.22. They are surely talking about this there. It came up in our group session and quite clearly the VYSA President is in favor of SY. A couple of administrators were talking to him afterward and I was close enough to get the impression that a lot of people at the clubs are opposed to the change but the message did not seem to be getting through to VYSA leadership, during the meeting or afterward. The general feeling is that travel soccer is not a social experience with kids from your class at school like rec soccer is (which does not mean there are no friendships or social involvements, just that you're not as likely to have your school BFF on your travel team as you are in rec) and that either way, you still have a kid 12 months older than another kid on the team, whether it is January and December or August and July, and this just shakes things up for no obvious benefit at the travel level.

At the club level, I'd be curious if there's some disconnect between those who have an equity interest in the club and those who don't. If they do, they might be thinking a potential increase in kids over the long run means more money for them. If they don't, they may be thinking this is nothing but a headache for them running a bigger tryout and dealing with complaining parents.

VYSA Club meetings have been going on around the state, and they mentioned that US Soccer is doing a "retreat" on 10.22. They are surely talking about this there. It came up in our group session and quite clearly the VYSA President is in favor of SY. A couple of administrators were talking to him afterward and I was close enough to get the impression that a lot of people at the clubs are opposed to the change but the message did not seem to be getting through to VYSA leadership, during the meeting or afterward. The general feeling is that travel soccer is not a social experience with kids from your class at school like rec soccer is (which does not mean there are no friendships or social involvements, just that you're not as likely to have your school BFF on your travel team as you are in rec) and that either way, you still have a kid 12 months older than another kid on the team, whether it is January and December or August and July, and this just shakes things up for no obvious benefit at the travel level.

all it says is "we are a low level league and will do what all the big boys tell us to"

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid won't change nor will you.
BY or SY makes no difference.

Is the reason they would make the switch to change kids?

Meaning, low performer today during BY season
Then low performer tomorrow in SY season

Are you sure they are would do the switch to make the kids better performers? That would seem odd.

So the switch has only monetary value to ECNL

Who is going to pay ECNL to make the switch? If ECNL can make the switch so can other leagues, no?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kid won't change nor will you.
BY or SY makes no difference.

Is the reason they would make the switch to change kids?

Meaning, low performer today during BY season
Then low performer tomorrow in SY season

Are you sure they are would do the switch to make the kids better performers? That would seem odd.

So the switch has only monetary value to ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:So if this goes through — US Club, USSSA, AYSO can approach this any way they would like. Team build up, schedules..

Something to consider is that GA can sanction players as well.

If US Soccer stands firm on BY this could split youth soccer into 2 different ways players play the sport.

Yes. A split would be awesome.
We need more division because youth soccer is doing too well in America

Couple people already agree with you, a split system could address the relative age effect and advance youth soccer.

Youth soccer really could use having leagues with different age cutoffs so it isn't always the biggest and oldest kids playing on the top teams.

The solution to that has already been solved in Europe years ago
1 Bio-banding
2 Talented late developers play in their own league

Same age cutoff.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kid won't change nor will you.
BY or SY makes no difference.

Is the reason they would make the switch to change kids?

Meaning, low performer today during BY season
Then low performer tomorrow in SY season

Are you sure they are would do the switch to make the kids better performers? That would seem odd.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if this goes through — US Club, USSSA, AYSO can approach this any way they would like. Team build up, schedules..

Something to consider is that GA can sanction players as well.

If US Soccer stands firm on BY this could split youth soccer into 2 different ways players play the sport.

Yes. A split would be awesome.
We need more division because youth soccer is doing too well in America

Couple people already agree with you, a split system could address the relative age effect and advance youth soccer.

Youth soccer really could use having leagues with different age cutoffs so it isn't always the biggest and oldest kids playing on the top teams.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kid won't change nor will you.
BY or SY makes no difference.

Is the reason they would make the switch to change kids?

Meaning, low performer today during BY season
Then low performer tomorrow in SY season

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if this goes through — US Club, USSSA, AYSO can approach this any way they would like. Team build up, schedules..

Something to consider is that GA can sanction players as well.

If US Soccer stands firm on BY this could split youth soccer into 2 different ways players play the sport.

Yes. A split would be awesome.
We need more division because youth soccer is doing too well in America

Couple people already agree with you, a split system could address the relative age effect and advance youth soccer.

Sarcasm and cynicism went over like an A380

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if this goes through — US Club, USSSA, AYSO can approach this any way they would like. Team build up, schedules..

Something to consider is that GA can sanction players as well.

If US Soccer stands firm on BY this could split youth soccer into 2 different ways players play the sport.

Yes. A split would be awesome.
We need more division because youth soccer is doing too well in America

Couple people already agree with you, a split system could address the relative age effect and advance youth soccer.

you missed the sarcasm