Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
Really? Do the kids from these schools still get an extra nod?!
I thought we were past that and all that hiring managers cared about is experience and skills. If I have a kid from Penn State or UMiami with great internships why would I not pick them over a mediocre Yale or Princeton kid?!?!
That’s not what “an extra nod” means. It’s about comparing kids who otherwise look alike. I would definitely rather hire a superlative alum of a state school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.
Also who says flat false? So douchey sounding. If you alone ‘run hiring’ then you likely work at some small shop.
+1 This is an outdated approach and the newer generation of hiring managers doesn’t think like boomers.
It's too bad. I think that's why things are so much worse today.
The schools have done it to themselves with all the admission games and test optional. Not merit-based and it shows.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.
Also who says flat false? So douchey sounding. If you alone ‘run hiring’ then you likely work at some small shop.
+1 This is an outdated approach and the newer generation of hiring managers doesn’t think like boomers.
It's too bad. I think that's why things are so much worse today.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
Really? Do the kids from these schools still get an extra nod?!
I thought we were past that and all that hiring managers cared about is experience and skills. If I have a kid from Penn State or UMiami with great internships why would I not pick them over a mediocre Yale or Princeton kid?!?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.
Also who says flat false? So douchey sounding. If you alone ‘run hiring’ then you likely work at some small shop.
+1 This is an outdated approach and the newer generation of hiring managers doesn’t think like boomers.
It's too bad. I think that's why things are so much worse today.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.
Agree. Private sector. We recruit at specific schools and then look elsewhere if not full. We use recent grads from those schools to recruit: we currently have recruiters for Duke and 7 of the 8 ivies and Georgetown. We hire many different majors from these schools. We have had a lot of success from them so that is where we look. We hired less this year and filled all spots with recruiting at these schools
Can you share what industry?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.
Also who says flat false? So douchey sounding. If you alone ‘run hiring’ then you likely work at some small shop.
+1 This is an outdated approach and the newer generation of hiring managers doesn’t think like boomers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
Really? Do the kids from these schools still get an extra nod?!
I thought we were past that and all that hiring managers cared about is experience and skills. If I have a kid from Penn State or UMiami with great internships why would I not pick them over a mediocre Yale or Princeton kid?!?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Maybe in your world. But outside of that, it still matters a lot
Another hiring manager. School brand doesn't matter in my world either. I want to know what you did at college, wherever it was.
So if someone went to a podunk regional college in the Midwest, west coast or northeast, it would hold up the same as a UMD or GW or UVA?
One of my best hires ever went to the University of South Dakota and the worst was from Penn. So, no, I don't put a lot of weight on college brand. That doesn't mean it doesn't matter at all just that the pool of "acceptable" is way wider than the people stressing about college apps think it is. Yes, I would look askance at an all online college, wouldn't hire from Liberty U, unranked regional Us. But really, if it's a state flagship or a regional school that makes it into in USNWR top 200 universities/top 100 LACs, to me there just isn't much distinction when it comes to the brand. What did you do with the opportunities you had, wherever you were.
Yes. My best hire was a lower ranked SUNY school, my worst was Yale.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Maybe in your world. But outside of that, it still matters a lot
Another hiring manager. School brand doesn't matter in my world either. I want to know what you did at college, wherever it was.
So if someone went to a podunk regional college in the Midwest, west coast or northeast, it would hold up the same as a UMD or GW or UVA?
One of my best hires ever went to the University of South Dakota and the worst was from Penn. So, no, I don't put a lot of weight on college brand. That doesn't mean it doesn't matter at all just that the pool of "acceptable" is way wider than the people stressing about college apps think it is. Yes, I would look askance at an all online college, wouldn't hire from Liberty U, unranked regional Us. But really, if it's a state flagship or a regional school that makes it into in USNWR top 200 universities/top 100 LACs, to me there just isn't much distinction when it comes to the brand. What did you do with the opportunities you had, wherever you were.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Maybe in your world. But outside of that, it still matters a lot
Another hiring manager. School brand doesn't matter in my world either. I want to know what you did at college, wherever it was.
So if someone went to a podunk regional college in the Midwest, west coast or northeast, it would hold up the same as a UMD or GW or UVA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.
Also who says flat false? So douchey sounding. If you alone ‘run hiring’ then you likely work at some small shop.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Maybe in your world. But outside of that, it still matters a lot
Another hiring manager. School brand doesn't matter in my world either. I want to know what you did at college, wherever it was.
So if someone went to a podunk regional college in the Midwest, west coast or northeast, it would hold up the same as a UMD or GW or UVA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad
Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.
Agree. Private sector. We recruit at specific schools and then look elsewhere if not full. We use recent grads from those schools to recruit: we currently have recruiters for Duke and 7 of the 8 ivies and Georgetown. We hire many different majors from these schools. We have had a lot of success from them so that is where we look. We hired less this year and filled all spots with recruiting at these schools