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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

+1. One of my biggest pet peeves is people asking if a dog is a rescue immediately when they meet it. I'm opposed to puppy mills of course, but before we got our dog, we did research into shelters, and to "rescue" a dog felt like we had to jump through hoops and sign our life away. All for a dog that we're not 100% what their history, temperament and reasons for being given up are. If you want to rescue, I support it 100%, but going after the people who do their research and decide a reputable breeder is best for them and their family seems wrong on so many levels.

Anonymous wrote:US goldens have the highest cancer rates of any purebred in this country. 60% of them die of cancer! People have gone to Europe for goldens because the breeding stock here is so contaminated.

https://www.parsemus.org/2024/02/advances-in-understanding-cancer-in-dogs-hemangiosarcoma-in-golden-retrievers/#:~:text=The%20Golden%20Retriever%20is%20especially,of%20cancer%20in%20the%20breed.

https://www.imprimedicine.com/blog/golden-retrievers

Goldens are not the same dog your husband had as a kid. You have to do your research and know what you're looking for, or you are setting yourself up for extremely expensive health care and heartbreak.

I'm not opposed to responsible breeders -- I have a purebred Lab and did my due diligence on OFA and other health certifications, because Labs are also prone to certain disorders as a result of inbreeding. But they're nowhere close to how bad goldens are.

AKC means nothing. You have to do a deep dive into OFA and

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

+1. One of my biggest pet peeves is people asking if a dog is a rescue immediately when they meet it. I'm opposed to puppy mills of course, but before we got our dog, we did research into shelters, and to "rescue" a dog felt like we had to jump through hoops and sign our life away. All for a dog that we're not 100% what their history, temperament and reasons for being given up are. If you want to rescue, I support it 100%, but going after the people who do their research and decide a reputable breeder is best for them and their family seems wrong on so many levels.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

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Anonymous wrote:This rescue wants almost $700 for older dogs. They are begging for people to foster and making threats about putting a dog in a barn if no one takes him. Why can't someone in the rescue take the dog as that's what they signed up for?

https://www.somersetcottagepoodlerescue.org/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGD0hNleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHfth4HRvboxAwIM4voktpuZCdJfRaPZNQp-iBzfN8rzg6EOcCM5XkPIXVQ_aem_q9r02tEAJM-jbHkkwTYK1A

Our breeder wasn't that much more and for a puppy, not 8-12 year old dog.

Exactly! A lot of rescues are scams. Always interesting to look at their taxes and see how much they pay their “officers,” and how much free travel the people take.