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Anonymous wrote:Yes that's normal and NO you don't touch the other swimmer.

YES, you do. You tap them on the foot.

No, you don’t. My kid got kicked regularly from another kid. It was really obnoxious and made my kid not want to swim. No reason to touch another child. Just wait and give yourself enough space. I had enough and coach would not help so I told my kid to kick harder back. Only then did the coach care. Don’t start a war you are not prepared to finish.

You are crazy. Foot tapping is a thing in competitive swim. My kids get annoyed in summer swim because non-club swimmers don’t know the passing rule.

Are you the driver that sits in the left hand lane doing the speed limit too?

We done club for ten years, plus summer swim and swim camps. It’s never been a thing or ok at any of them. Don’t touch my kid.

I think you might need to reconsider swim as a sport for your kid if they cannot handle a heel tap.

Agree. Every club I know has swimmers do this.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes that's normal and NO you don't touch the other swimmer.

YES, you do. You tap them on the foot.

Agree! This is what they do at my kids club - a very large one.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes that's normal and NO you don't touch the other swimmer.

YES, you do. You tap them on the foot.

No, you don’t. My kid got kicked regularly from another kid. It was really obnoxious and made my kid not want to swim. No reason to touch another child. Just wait and give yourself enough space. I had enough and coach would not help so I told my kid to kick harder back. Only then did the coach care. Don’t start a war you are not prepared to finish.

You are crazy. Foot tapping is a thing in competitive swim. My kids get annoyed in summer swim because non-club swimmers don’t know the passing rule.

Are you the driver that sits in the left hand lane doing the speed limit too?

We done club for ten years, plus summer swim and swim camps. It’s never been a thing or ok at any of them. Don’t touch my kid.

I think you might need to reconsider swim as a sport for your kid if they cannot handle a heel tap.

+1

If kids are messing around (and I did this plenty of times), we'd grab the ankle and pull the swimmer to the side of us. But beware on breast stroke, because some swimmers would get revenge and give you a charlie horse when they kick. Good times. good times.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes that's normal and NO you don't touch the other swimmer.

YES, you do. You tap them on the foot.

No, you don’t. My kid got kicked regularly from another kid. It was really obnoxious and made my kid not want to swim. No reason to touch another child. Just wait and give yourself enough space. I had enough and coach would not help so I told my kid to kick harder back. Only then did the coach care. Don’t start a war you are not prepared to finish.

You are crazy. Foot tapping is a thing in competitive swim. My kids get annoyed in summer swim because non-club swimmers don’t know the passing rule.

Are you the driver that sits in the left hand lane doing the speed limit too?

We done club for ten years, plus summer swim and swim camps. It’s never been a thing or ok at any of them. Don’t touch my kid.

I think you might need to reconsider swim as a sport for your kid if they cannot handle a heel tap.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes that's normal and NO you don't touch the other swimmer.

YES, you do. You tap them on the foot.

No, you don’t. My kid got kicked regularly from another kid. It was really obnoxious and made my kid not want to swim. No reason to touch another child. Just wait and give yourself enough space. I had enough and coach would not help so I told my kid to kick harder back. Only then did the coach care. Don’t start a war you are not prepared to finish.

You are crazy. Foot tapping is a thing in competitive swim. My kids get annoyed in summer swim because non-club swimmers don’t know the passing rule.

Are you the driver that sits in the left hand lane doing the speed limit too?

We done club for ten years, plus summer swim and swim camps. It’s never been a thing or ok at any of them. Don’t touch my kid.

Bullshit.

This. Tapping the kid ahead’s feet has been a thing since I swam 40 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes that's normal and NO you don't touch the other swimmer.

YES, you do. You tap them on the foot.

No, you don’t. My kid got kicked regularly from another kid. It was really obnoxious and made my kid not want to swim. No reason to touch another child. Just wait and give yourself enough space. I had enough and coach would not help so I told my kid to kick harder back. Only then did the coach care. Don’t start a war you are not prepared to finish.

You are crazy. Foot tapping is a thing in competitive swim. My kids get annoyed in summer swim because non-club swimmers don’t know the passing rule.

Are you the driver that sits in the left hand lane doing the speed limit too?

We done club for ten years, plus summer swim and swim camps. It’s never been a thing or ok at any of them. Don’t touch my kid.

Bullshit.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes that's normal and NO you don't touch the other swimmer.

YES, you do. You tap them on the foot.

No, you don’t. My kid got kicked regularly from another kid. It was really obnoxious and made my kid not want to swim. No reason to touch another child. Just wait and give yourself enough space. I had enough and coach would not help so I told my kid to kick harder back. Only then did the coach care. Don’t start a war you are not prepared to finish.

You are crazy. Foot tapping is a thing in competitive swim. My kids get annoyed in summer swim because non-club swimmers don’t know the passing rule.

Are you the driver that sits in the left hand lane doing the speed limit too?

We done club for ten years, plus summer swim and swim camps. It’s never been a thing or ok at any of them. Don’t touch my kid.

Okay let's point out that you either are brand new to swim, or crazy. A quick search of lane etiquette/rules shows EVERY SINGLE ONE talking about the foot/heel tap to pass. It is a thing, OP. If your kid is not adhering to the rules, they are the one at fault.

https://www.formswim.com/blogs/all/lap-swim-etiquette-everything-you-need-to-know#:~:text=If%20your%20fellow%20swimmer%20gives,clockwise)%20and%20let%20them%20pass.

Key statement: 9. Tap to pass
If you need to pass the swimmer in front of you, tap them on the foot to let them know. It’s proper pool etiquette for lap swimmers to pass on the inside of the swim lane.

If you feel someone tap on your foot, don’t stop swimming. Simply slow your stride and move closer to the outside of the lane (as much as possible). If your fellow swimmer gives you a tap just before the turn, yield to them at the wall. Move to the far side of the lane line (right side if you’re swimming counterclockwise and left side if you are going clockwise) and let them pass.

https://loneswimmer.com/2011/02/15/lane-swimming-etiquette/

Key statement: Rule 7: Tap feet to pass. The person whose feet are being tapped moves out of the way to the corner at the lane end. Do NOT speed up if you are being passed.

https://www.indyaquaticmasters.com/c/6E62A99/file/2024%20IAM%20pool%20etiquette%20.pdf

Key statement: Passing - To pass a slower swimmer, it is universally accepted to tap the foot once gently. If safe, the
faster swimmer can move to the left side of the slower swimmer to pass. However, if the lane
is crowded, allow the passing to occur at the next wall to reduce the risk of head collisions and arm
battery.

http://www.excelswimming.com/Resources/Articles/LaneEtiquette.pdf

Key statement: Get Out of My Way! Common problems when passing is that the faster swimmer does not necessarily warn the slower swimmer
in front that he/she is there. If you would like to pass the person ahead of you, lightly tap their feet once or twice so that this
person knows you are there and want to pass. The second common problem when passing is that the swimmer in front/being
passed attempts to temporarily speed up leaving the faster swimmer in the middle of the lane facing oncoming traffic. If you feel a
tap on your feet, move as far right up against the lane line as possible, slightly slow your speed and allow the person behind you to
pass on your left. Passing can be a very dangerous thing; the passing swimmer must swim in the middle of the lane possibly
dodging oncoming swimmers from the other direction. Passing should be done as quickly as possible. Another passing option,
especially if you are close to the wall, is to simply stop in the corner and let the passing swimmer turn past you. Then, get in
behind the swimmer who went by. Be observant and aware of the other swimmers in your lane. If you know passing is inevitable,
time your turn so the faster swimmer can pass at the wall.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes that's normal and NO you don't touch the other swimmer.

YES, you do. You tap them on the foot.

No, you don’t. My kid got kicked regularly from another kid. It was really obnoxious and made my kid not want to swim. No reason to touch another child. Just wait and give yourself enough space. I had enough and coach would not help so I told my kid to kick harder back. Only then did the coach care. Don’t start a war you are not prepared to finish.

You are crazy. Foot tapping is a thing in competitive swim. My kids get annoyed in summer swim because non-club swimmers don’t know the passing rule.

Are you the driver that sits in the left hand lane doing the speed limit too?

We done club for ten years, plus summer swim and swim camps. It’s never been a thing or ok at any of them. Don’t touch my kid.

You are insane. It is not a thing for summer swim, unless you have a lot of club kids. But it is a club swim thing. Hell, there was an article posted on it being a cardinal rule of lane etiquette.

You have some serious issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes that's normal and NO you don't touch the other swimmer.

YES, you do. You tap them on the foot.

No, you don’t. My kid got kicked regularly from another kid. It was really obnoxious and made my kid not want to swim. No reason to touch another child. Just wait and give yourself enough space. I had enough and coach would not help so I told my kid to kick harder back. Only then did the coach care. Don’t start a war you are not prepared to finish.

You are crazy. Foot tapping is a thing in competitive swim. My kids get annoyed in summer swim because non-club swimmers don’t know the passing rule.

Are you the driver that sits in the left hand lane doing the speed limit too?

We done club for ten years, plus summer swim and swim camps. It’s never been a thing or ok at any of them. Don’t touch my kid.

whaaaa????? foot tapping is normal. grabbing no, but a tap, yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes that's normal and NO you don't touch the other swimmer.

YES, you do. You tap them on the foot.

No, you don’t. My kid got kicked regularly from another kid. It was really obnoxious and made my kid not want to swim. No reason to touch another child. Just wait and give yourself enough space. I had enough and coach would not help so I told my kid to kick harder back. Only then did the coach care. Don’t start a war you are not prepared to finish.

You are crazy. Foot tapping is a thing in competitive swim. My kids get annoyed in summer swim because non-club swimmers don’t know the passing rule.

Are you the driver that sits in the left hand lane doing the speed limit too?

We done club for ten years, plus summer swim and swim camps. It’s never been a thing or ok at any of them. Don’t touch my kid.

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I had enough and coach would not help so I told my kid to kick harder back.

Great parenting there. Why not tell DC to use their words and switch it up at the next set?

I did. But the kids were about equal in speed and the kid was competitive. He told the kid to stop, kid would not. He went to the coach who ignored him. I pulled him out for a week because he refuse to go and emailed the coach and organization with no response. I walked him into to the practice and coach refused to talk to us. So, he refused to swim and we went into the regular lap lane to swim. I finally convinced him to go back and told him he had to stand up for himself and kick back. Finally the coach cared and then had the nerve to email me about him and I reminded the coach what we did to stop it first.

Stop letting your kid hit other kids in practice or they may get hit back.

Honestly this is crazy. Why would you send your kid back to a program where the coach clearly didn’t care about the safety of your child? There must be more to this story.

Cost and convenience with other activities and they were moving up eventually. The new coaches were worth putting up with it as they are fantastic. The sad part is that coach occasionally coaches the older kids but the coach has been ok lately.

Anonymous wrote:For a 10 and under I think this is up to the coach. The kids don't quite understand yet. Sometimes the lane order needs to be changed multiple times during practice because different kids are good at different things. If two kids are very close to each other in speed, the ideal is to put then in two different lanes next to each other so they can push each other. This stuff tends to get better as kids get older and more well rounded, and more mature.

I will say no one is worse at lane etiquette than adult Masters swimmers who didn't grow up swimming. For example people who came to swimming later in life and swim Masters to train for triathlons. They treat pool swimming like open water and will just go 2 seconds after you and swim right on top of you unless you're very forceful about the 5 second rule. They also don't circle swim properly and will hit your hand/arm with theirs as you swim by in the other direction, which hurts!!

Yeah, I didn't grow up swimming on a team and am terrible at swimming straight, swimming in circles, etc. Whenever anyone asks if they can share my lane I say, of course but just beware tho I try, I am terrible at swimming straight. I am not sure how to get better at this. I try to swim at times when the pool is less likely to be busy so I can have my own lane. It's best for the good swimmer to share lanes with each other.

For a 10 and under I think this is up to the coach. The kids don't quite understand yet. Sometimes the lane order needs to be changed multiple times during practice because different kids are good at different things. If two kids are very close to each other in speed, the ideal is to put then in two different lanes next to each other so they can push each other. This stuff tends to get better as kids get older and more well rounded, and more mature.

I will say no one is worse at lane etiquette than adult Masters swimmers who didn't grow up swimming. For example people who came to swimming later in life and swim Masters to train for triathlons. They treat pool swimming like open water and will just go 2 seconds after you and swim right on top of you unless you're very forceful about the 5 second rule. They also don't circle swim properly and will hit your hand/arm with theirs as you swim by in the other direction, which hurts!!

Honestly some people never learn lane etiquette and it’s intentional. Way back when I was swimming, there were the jerkface kids who would never, ever lead a set even if they were faster. It was a combination of not wanting to expend the energy to set the pace and count in the set and wanting to look better than they were.

So instead of leaving 5 seconds or a flag’s worth of space before the next swimmer, they would leave right on the heels of the next swimmer to get on extra few seconds’ time to make every interval. It doesn’t sound like a big deal, but when you’re doing 10 x 100s or 8 x 200s or something 2-3 seconds per 100 really adds up to a ton more rest and room to slow down.

These are the same people that start slapping the other person’s feet as soon as a coach glances over. But they never actually use the energy to pass…just enough energy to get to make themselves look fast.

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Anonymous wrote:This is DC’s first time on a club team. I’ve noticed that the coaches don’t really do anything about swimmers colliding in the lanes. For example, if DC is faster than the swimmer before them, rather than re-order the line, the coaches just leave them to constantly run into each other throughout the practice. Is this normal? Seems silly not to just change the sequence rather than have two swimmers constantly fighting with each other for the space.

DP here. This happens all the time and it's annoying as heck to my DD. However, she's not shy about speaking up when she's kicked by a swimmer in front of her. At a pause moment, she tells the kid that s/he either speeds up, or switch. If the kid doesn't do either, she asks her coach to handle it.

What's even more annoying to DD is when the meet host doesn't give enough lanes for the number of swimmers to warm up, or where the meet host "shorts" the team out of 5-7 minutes of warm up time because they're running late (but gave full warm up time to other teams).

Haha, my kids call meet warm ups prison rules and equate it to being out in the wild jungle. There is NEVER enough lane space for warm ups. It is 20 million kids literally swimming over top of one another. And I have seen it.