Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 19:48     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:Ha. Ha. I love it.

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/09/27/breaking-judge-overturns-missing-middle-zoning-changes/


Good. They’re trying to pull this in NWDC too. The schools here are ridiculously overcrowded and there are thousands more units coming on line over the next few years. Their plan to address the infrastructure crisis appears to be “hope.” Ready, fire, aim. Keep up the good fight!
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 19:45     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They basically want to turn the whole DMV into Mexico City. No, I do not mean that in a disparaging ethic way, but they’ll try to jam pack way too many people in a certain area just like Mexico City. And guess what’s happening to MC? The entire city is sinking because infrastructure can’t handle water and sewage demand. The city is going to collapse because there will be no more water.

Maybe, just maybe, not everyone has the god given right to live wherever they want, when they want. You build infrastructure up to a certain level with a limit. You can only sustain a population up to that limit. If you can’t afford to live there due to limit on capacity, then you simply find more affordable, less dense areas to live. The U.S. is massive. I don’t understand why we insist on making certain areas extremely dense when there is huge amounts of room and space elsewhere available that’s already far more affordable. You can live in PA, WV, or OH for much more affordable housing.


You can live in PA or OH if you want a massive SFH with a giant yard. You don’t get to both live close to an urban center and demand other people cannot live there.


Uh, that’s exactly what the judge’s ruling means (for now). Sorry you lost trying to push this down people’s throats. Loser.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 19:31     Subject: MM Is Dead
One has to wonder if some of the Arlington elected officials have an Eric Adams problem when it comes to developers.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 18:11     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:Or maybe just maybe the YIMBYs could propose infrasture improvements along with their development proposals instead of pretending that infrastructure doesn't matter.


That really is the simplest way to satisfy all of this. But, because infrastructure is expensive af and not usually developer-funded with infill development, it crushes the profits for developrs. So no development would happen were it required. Thus, the processes are actually working to make certain all new development is done right.

I so enjoy the YIYBYs trying to explain how SWM is no real concern.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 18:06     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


People are finally beginning to understand that developers are behind all these proposals to ruin communities. YIMBY = developers.


Developers are the people who build houses. That’s not really a secret.

Fulminating over (checks notes) duplexes in your neighborhood is mentally deranged.


Yet, ironically, you'd flip your lid if MTG moved next to you.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 17:53     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


The irony is strong with this one.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 17:53     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same people objecting to MM are the people complaining that there aren't enough workers to support their quality of life.

Who is going to commute two hours or more to make your Panera sandwich?


yep. and teachers and nurses and long waits in the ER …


None of the MM proposal would actually address affordable housing. It’s a handout to developers.


Explain.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 17:53     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha. Ha. I love it.

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/09/27/breaking-judge-overturns-missing-middle-zoning-changes/


Judge David Schell, born in 1949. Of course it's some ancient boomer on the bench who is over-turning a ruling to try to right the wrongs of the suburban 1-unit dwelling development boom that's been occurring for his entire life and has resulted in housing unaffordability throughout the country, despite the recent election where this was a stark defining point between the two candidates and where the pro-reform candidate won 52% to 43% versus the anti-reform candidate.


Birth control and immigration control is the only way to lower housing costs. Building more housing just makes more people want to move in.

Look at NYC. Incredibly dense and incredibly expensive.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 17:49     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:Ha. Ha. I love it.

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/09/27/breaking-judge-overturns-missing-middle-zoning-changes/


Judge David Schell, born in 1949. Of course it's some ancient boomer on the bench who is over-turning a ruling to try to right the wrongs of the suburban 1-unit dwelling development boom that's been occurring for his entire life and has resulted in housing unaffordability throughout the country, despite the recent election where this was a stark defining point between the two candidates and where the pro-reform candidate won 52% to 43% versus the anti-reform candidate.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 17:32     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They basically want to turn the whole DMV into Mexico City. No, I do not mean that in a disparaging ethic way, but they’ll try to jam pack way too many people in a certain area just like Mexico City. And guess what’s happening to MC? The entire city is sinking because infrastructure can’t handle water and sewage demand. The city is going to collapse because there will be no more water.

Maybe, just maybe, not everyone has the god given right to live wherever they want, when they want. You build infrastructure up to a certain level with a limit. You can only sustain a population up to that limit. If you can’t afford to live there due to limit on capacity, then you simply find more affordable, less dense areas to live. The U.S. is massive. I don’t understand why we insist on making certain areas extremely dense when there is huge amounts of room and space elsewhere available that’s already far more affordable. You can live in PA, WV, or OH for much more affordable housing.


You can live in PA or OH if you want a massive SFH with a giant yard. You don’t get to both live close to an urban center and demand other people cannot live there.



There is a capacity limit due to infrastructure, dimwit. You can’t keep packing people into the same area if sewage systems, water infrastructure, schools, etc. can’t handle it. Look at Mexico City for the nightmare that can happen. Spread density out where more infrastructure can be built for a fraction of the cost. You don’t have a god given inherent right to live where you think you should. I deserve $1000/mo rent in Jackson Hole too! Build me my home, now! lol.


wtf does Mexico City have to do with it?? (except to be the classic nonsequitur that NIMBYs love to layer on.)

don’t worry, zoning reform will prevail and we’ll all have a good laugh when only the truly mentally deranged among you are left to chain yourself to the sh*tshack teardown.


lol, U MAD?

I mean, sure it might pass. Come back with a plan that people support, one that is well researched, and with some proof that it might work, and you might get somewhere.

Should be easy if there are so many people that support it.

*laugh track*

It’s not really about stopping it, it’s about slowing it down to a manageable pace for the rest of us to plan to escape. Transition periods for school and work are hard to coordinate.

So, sure, it will eventually pass, and at that point you can have whatever is left. I’ll sell you my house to ruin if you’ve got the cash.

I don’t like to live in the past, though. That will just bring you depression. If you live in the future you’ll just have anxiety. Let us stay in the present and enjoy the moment where you are a losing loser.

Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 17:26     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.


100%
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 17:19     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or maybe just maybe the YIMBYs could propose infrasture improvements along with their development proposals instead of pretending that infrastructure doesn't matter.

The standard is consider. They can have a hearing to consider the canopy and infrastructure and then pass the same law


I believe you forgot the good faith qualifier. That means actually analyzing the impact and not hand waving it away.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 17:08     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The same people objecting to MM are the people complaining that there aren't enough workers to support their quality of life.

Who is going to commute two hours or more to make your Panera sandwich?


yep. and teachers and nurses and long waits in the ER …


None of the MM proposal would actually address affordable housing. It’s a handout to developers.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 16:57     Subject: MM Is Dead
Anonymous wrote:Or maybe just maybe the YIMBYs could propose infrasture improvements along with their development proposals instead of pretending that infrastructure doesn't matter.

The standard is consider. They can have a hearing to consider the canopy and infrastructure and then pass the same law
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2024 16:56     Subject: MM Is Dead
Or maybe just maybe the YIMBYs could propose infrasture improvements along with their development proposals instead of pretending that infrastructure doesn't matter.