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Anonymous wrote:I’m half Jewish and the stereotypes really bugged me. Along with Bell’s aforementioned lip issue.

On the other hand, I think Adam Brody is really cute and see that in real life he’s a secular Jew.

“Secular Jew” is more offensive than most of the clearly intentional stereotypes in the show. You can’t be a “secular Jew.”

It’s a religion.

It’s an ethno-religion. I am 100% Jewish and my DNA test confirms that. I eat Passover dinner with my family and light Hanukkah candles. But I don’t believe in God and am not a member of a shul. Being Jewish cis part of my identity, but it’s not my religion. In other words, no, you can definitely be a secular Jew.

Let’s not turn this into an antisemetic thread please?

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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish tropes are ridiculous. When Bell's character shows up to the synagogue and camera zooms in on the woman playing Brody's mom I knew she was going to call her a shiksa before she spoke. And agree that the pushy women desperate to marry their daughters off to Brody were silly.

It was also INSANE when Brody's girlfriend digs up the engagement ring and just starts wearing it without talking to him and then tries to just force an engagement. This combined with the scene at the synagogue really rubs me the wrong way because it portrays all the Jewish women in his life as marriage-obsessed with no interest in romance and essentially justifies him doing something he knows will stir up a ton of trouble by pursing a relationship with a non-Jewish woman. It has "look what you made me do" vibes.

Having said all that I do enjoy the scenes between Brody and Bell and I actually do think this could be an interesting premise (without the broad Jewish tropes that are especially harsh towards Jewish women). It's a shame they went this route and betrays a really laziness -- this was the only way you could think of to make it funny. Lame.

I felt this way watching the Big Sick. It was mostly a good movie but the S Asian women the main character tried to date were all awful. A person can end up with someone of another background without it having to be about their own women sucking. It was lazy, disrespectful writing then and is here as well.

true. and also having been the non-Jewish partner myself for a long time, I’ve finally come to understand why Jewish culture prioritizes in-marriage. It really stems from the millenia-long history of intense marginalization. Judaism could never rely on people converting to survive because being a Jew was stigmatized. Conversely cultural and physical survival depended on a strong Jewish identity. The in-group pressure was strong. I dislike being mare to feel “other” as the non-Jew but I understand it.

That said Tova Feldsuh is hilarious as the mom. Her comment “that was a strange sermon” to Adam Brody was so 💯 what my Jewish immigrant MIL would say.

Tova as the Jewish mother is amazing, just as she was in Crazy Ex Girlfriend….

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Jewish tropes are ridiculous. When Bell's character shows up to the synagogue and camera zooms in on the woman playing Brody's mom I knew she was going to call her a shiksa before she spoke. And agree that the pushy women desperate to marry their daughters off to Brody were silly.

It was also INSANE when Brody's girlfriend digs up the engagement ring and just starts wearing it without talking to him and then tries to just force an engagement. This combined with the scene at the synagogue really rubs me the wrong way because it portrays all the Jewish women in his life as marriage-obsessed with no interest in romance and essentially justifies him doing something he knows will stir up a ton of trouble by pursing a relationship with a non-Jewish woman. It has "look what you made me do" vibes.

Having said all that I do enjoy the scenes between Brody and Bell and I actually do think this could be an interesting premise (without the broad Jewish tropes that are especially harsh towards Jewish women). It's a shame they went this route and betrays a really laziness -- this was the only way you could think of to make it funny. Lame.

I felt this way watching the Big Sick. It was mostly a good movie but the S Asian women the main character tried to date were all awful. A person can end up with someone of another background without it having to be about their own women sucking. It was lazy, disrespectful writing then and is here as well.

true. and also having been the non-Jewish partner myself for a long time, I’ve finally come to understand why Jewish culture prioritizes in-marriage. It really stems from the millenia-long history of intense marginalization. Judaism could never rely on people converting to survive because being a Jew was stigmatized. Conversely cultural and physical survival depended on a strong Jewish identity. The in-group pressure was strong. I dislike being mare to feel “other” as the non-Jew but I understand it.

That said Tova Feldsuh is hilarious as the mom. Her comment “that was a strange sermon” to Adam Brody was so 💯 what my Jewish immigrant MIL would say.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m half Jewish and the stereotypes really bugged me. Along with Bell’s aforementioned lip issue.

On the other hand, I think Adam Brody is really cute and see that in real life he’s a secular Jew.

“Secular Jew” is more offensive than most of the clearly intentional stereotypes in the show. You can’t be a “secular Jew.”

It’s a religion.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Jewish tropes are ridiculous. When Bell's character shows up to the synagogue and camera zooms in on the woman playing Brody's mom I knew she was going to call her a shiksa before she spoke. And agree that the pushy women desperate to marry their daughters off to Brody were silly.

It was also INSANE when Brody's girlfriend digs up the engagement ring and just starts wearing it without talking to him and then tries to just force an engagement. This combined with the scene at the synagogue really rubs me the wrong way because it portrays all the Jewish women in his life as marriage-obsessed with no interest in romance and essentially justifies him doing something he knows will stir up a ton of trouble by pursing a relationship with a non-Jewish woman. It has "look what you made me do" vibes.

Having said all that I do enjoy the scenes between Brody and Bell and I actually do think this could be an interesting premise (without the broad Jewish tropes that are especially harsh towards Jewish women). It's a shame they went this route and betrays a really laziness -- this was the only way you could think of to make it funny. Lame.

I felt this way watching the Big Sick. It was mostly a good movie but the S Asian women the main character tried to date were all awful. A person can end up with someone of another background without it having to be about their own women sucking. It was lazy, disrespectful writing then and is here as well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m half Jewish and the stereotypes really bugged me. Along with Bell’s aforementioned lip issue.

On the other hand, I think Adam Brody is really cute and see that in real life he’s a secular Jew.

“Secular Jew” is more offensive than most of the clearly intentional stereotypes in the show. You can’t be a “secular Jew.”

It’s a religion.

Anonymous wrote:I’m half Jewish and the stereotypes really bugged me. Along with Bell’s aforementioned lip issue.

On the other hand, I think Adam Brody is really cute and see that in real life he’s a secular Jew.

Anonymous wrote:Good reviews! Thanks OP will look at it.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/nobody_wants_this/s01

Anonymous wrote:The Jewish tropes are ridiculous. When Bell's character shows up to the synagogue and camera zooms in on the woman playing Brody's mom I knew she was going to call her a shiksa before she spoke. And agree that the pushy women desperate to marry their daughters off to Brody were silly.

It was also INSANE when Brody's girlfriend digs up the engagement ring and just starts wearing it without talking to him and then tries to just force an engagement. This combined with the scene at the synagogue really rubs me the wrong way because it portrays all the Jewish women in his life as marriage-obsessed with no interest in romance and essentially justifies him doing something he knows will stir up a ton of trouble by pursing a relationship with a non-Jewish woman. It has "look what you made me do" vibes.

Having said all that I do enjoy the scenes between Brody and Bell and I actually do think this could be an interesting premise (without the broad Jewish tropes that are especially harsh towards Jewish women). It's a shame they went this route and betrays a really laziness -- this was the only way you could think of to make it funny. Lame.

Anonymous wrote:Keeping the Faith in 2000 was similar, with Ben Stiller playing a rabbi and Jenna Elfman playing the non-Jewish love interest.