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Students who chose not to disclose their race doubled from 3.3% to 6.6% (White Students, obvi).

All percentage changes aren't that significant, in my opinion.


https://home.dartmouth.edu/news/2024/09/class-2028#:~:text=Of%20the%201%2C184%20students%20in,all%2Dtime%20high%20for%20Dartmouth.

The numbers look good to me.

Race is not supposed to matter post SCOTUS ruling, right?

We have no idea what these numbers mean until the lawsuit discovery phase.

No one has sued Dartmouth.

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Anonymous wrote:When that happens, IMO, it means they leaned heavily on the National Merit Hispanic Recognition Program designation in apps.

Which seems .. lazy?

Yes but it works

Works how? Plenty of kids claim to be Hispanic who are three generations away from speaking anything but English. It’s not making Dartmouth more diverse on anything but paper.

Wouldn't that be illegal? They aren't supposed to use race.

The Supreme Court has never ruled that consideration of race is "illegal" or otherwise impermissible.

In fact, the SFFA majority opinion noted that race-based admissions programs are okay "within the confines of narrow restrictions."

They found that the Harvard and UNC programs did not fall within those confines. That's it.

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Anonymous wrote:Great Native American numbers!
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Don’t get too excited. A lot of them are actually white too. Lots of blonde blue-eyed “Choctaws” out there.

There's a federal designation to Native American in this country, and you have to have your tribal id...

You can talk about your tribal identity without a tribal ID. You know... like Elizabeth Warren who had a Cherokee ancestor 6 to 10 generations ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Great Native American numbers!
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Don’t get too excited. A lot of them are actually white too. Lots of blonde blue-eyed “Choctaws” out there.

There's a federal designation to Native American in this country, and you have to have your tribal id...

Anonymous wrote:Great Native American numbers!
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Don’t get too excited. A lot of them are actually white too. Lots of blonde blue-eyed “Choctaws” out there.

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Students who chose not to disclose their race doubled from 3.3% to 6.6% (White Students, obvi).

All percentage changes aren't that significant, in my opinion.


https://home.dartmouth.edu/news/2024/09/class-2028#:~:text=Of%20the%201%2C184%20students%20in,all%2Dtime%20high%20for%20Dartmouth.

The numbers look good to me.

Race is not supposed to matter post SCOTUS ruling, right?

We have no idea what these numbers mean until the lawsuit discovery phase.

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Anonymous wrote:When that happens, IMO, it means they leaned heavily on the National Merit Hispanic Recognition Program designation in apps.

Which seems .. lazy?

Yes but it works

Works how? Plenty of kids claim to be Hispanic who are three generations away from speaking anything but English. It’s not making Dartmouth more diverse on anything but paper.

don’t you have a job? You post on all of these topics continuously. Day after day. We get that you are pissed because your Asian kids with perfect scores are somehow disadvantaged in your mind. It’s getting old. No one cares. Get a life.

Stop hijacking everything with your agenda.

step off.

I only comment on Dartmouth where my two kids are and where I think the diversity measures are substandard.

being the comment police on a message board is not a good look, esp when you're so off base.

It's a form of confirmation bias. They have to believe that all of the posts opposing their point of view is one person while their are thousands o people on their side.

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Anonymous wrote:Good Latinos are really underrepresented in universities.

I fail to understand your comment. What is a good Latino?

For example, The ones from Argentina who have German ancestry.

Or biracial Latinas mixed with white.

White "Latinas".

They largely identify as white not as people of colour.

I know what “white Latinos/as” are. My question is why are they “good Latinos”?. Are you saying they are “good” for the school demographics?

My family could be considered “white Latino”, but we are not better than other Latinos.

We check the Hispanic box for ethnicity and the White box for race. I agree there should be a Mestizo box since most Latin Americans would fall in that category.

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Anonymous wrote:When that happens, IMO, it means they leaned heavily on the National Merit Hispanic Recognition Program designation in apps.

Which seems .. lazy?

Yes but it works

Works how? Plenty of kids claim to be Hispanic who are three generations away from speaking anything but English. It’s not making Dartmouth more diverse on anything but paper.

Exactly.

It even says on the link

Note: Values do not total 100% as some students report more than one race or ethnicity. Underrepresented Backgrounds include Black or African American, Hispanic or Latinx, and Native or Indigenous students.

So you have Latinas who look like Alexis Bledel, Anya Taylor-Joy and Germans from Argentina.

But that doesn’t make them white. Taylor joy was born in Miami and raised in Buenos Aires- she’s jut a light skin Latina, kinda a natural consequence of colonization an European migration to Argentina

Anya identifies as White.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/anya-taylor-joy-argentina-queens-gambit-b1810984.html

Yes. the article states that she is a white...
Latina

WHITE.
WHITE.
WHITE.

That is what she identifies as. Argue with her.

NP. While the checkboxes are not relevant here, most Hispanic and Latinas in the US would check the white box or leave the race box blank. Mestizo - part indigenous, part white - is not an option.

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Anonymous wrote:Good Latinos are really underrepresented in universities.

I fail to understand your comment. What is a good Latino?

For example, The ones from Argentina who have German ancestry.

Or biracial Latinas mixed with white.

White "Latinas".

They largely identify as white not as people of colour.

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Anonymous wrote:When that happens, IMO, it means they leaned heavily on the National Merit Hispanic Recognition Program designation in apps.

Which seems .. lazy?

Yes but it works

Works how? Plenty of kids claim to be Hispanic who are three generations away from speaking anything but English. It’s not making Dartmouth more diverse on anything but paper.

Exactly.

It even says on the link

Note: Values do not total 100% as some students report more than one race or ethnicity. Underrepresented Backgrounds include Black or African American, Hispanic or Latinx, and Native or Indigenous students.

So you have Latinas who look like Alexis Bledel, Anya Taylor-Joy and Germans from Argentina.

But that doesn’t make them white. Taylor joy was born in Miami and raised in Buenos Aires- she’s jut a light skin Latina, kinda a natural consequence of colonization an European migration to Argentina

Anya identifies as White.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/anya-taylor-joy-argentina-queens-gambit-b1810984.html

Yes. the article states that she is a white...
Latina

WHITE.
WHITE.
WHITE.

That is what she identifies as. Argue with her.

Anonymous wrote:Do you know how racist it is to say latinx? It is white people imposing their own titles on people who are actually comfortable with themselves. Shame on you.

Girl write a letter to Dartmouth.

This is their data.

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Anonymous wrote:When that happens, IMO, it means they leaned heavily on the National Merit Hispanic Recognition Program designation in apps.

Which seems .. lazy?

Yes but it works

Works how? Plenty of kids claim to be Hispanic who are three generations away from speaking anything but English. It’s not making Dartmouth more diverse on anything but paper.

Wouldn't that be illegal? They aren't supposed to use race.

They aren't supposed to but...

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When that happens, IMO, it means they leaned heavily on the National Merit Hispanic Recognition Program designation in apps.

Which seems .. lazy?

Yes but it works

Works how? Plenty of kids claim to be Hispanic who are three generations away from speaking anything but English. It’s not making Dartmouth more diverse on anything but paper.

Wouldn't that be illegal? They aren't supposed to use race.

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Anonymous wrote:Great Native American numbers!
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I believe they have a special program as Dartmouth recognizes it was built on Native American land.

Every university makes that recognition though….
Check the fine print (or the large if in person).

My kid is attending a T10 and the school spent a good deal of time talking about this to the incoming class and parents. I realize this has been a trend of late, but every school also seems to do this during admission info sessions, etc. I'm curious what started this trend.