Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 14:31     Subject: Re:UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the data and results his own?

Were the results correct and methodology sound?


He plagarized from an Australian person's website - did he also plagarize the results and the methodology? If he got the introduction from somewhere else, where did he get the substance of the report? If you can blame his co-author, did he actually do any of the writing himself or just fraudulently attach his name?

Most importantly, all of us who do the work ourselves but constantly feel we are not good enough, how do we get the chutzpah to apply to be a university president?


I’ve done all the statistical analysis on papers and the author has put my name on the paper without me even knowing.

I’m the statistician I just run numbers and give results, something many researches can’t do.

It’s their data, their research, their results.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 14:28     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Your source is problematic, OP.

I'll wait until it hits the mainstream news.


He confessed.

"While I am steadfast that our results, data and findings are sound, I acknowledge recurrent language in the introductory sections.”

He copied a few pages of background material.

Does that change the core of the paper? No.

Was it a cowardly and dishonest way to fill space and set the context of the paper? Yes.

Is it claiming credit for someone else's expository work? Yes.

What message does this send to UMD students? If he plagiarized and apologized, and still retains his position, that's a terrible message to the students. He needs to step down.

-parent of UMD student.


I seriously hope that if an engineering student invented something amazing and when writing the results copied and pasted the introduction we would care more about the invention.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 14:27     Subject: Re:UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the data and results his own?

Were the results correct and methodology sound?

He still plagiarized. He should've given credit to the quotes when he used the words verbatim.

Our MS kids even know to do that. Stop making excuses for liars.

Remember how people were outraged when Melania Trump plagiarized parts of Michelle Obama's speech?

This is worse because he's in academia, leading a college where academic dishonesty can get you kicked out of college.


Translation:

The data, methodology and results were sound.

Neither Melanie nor Michelle wrote their own speech and I’m okay with that. Melanie’s speech writer did her dirty.

Please dishonesty? lol.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 14:25     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:Who knew UMCP was so much like Harvard.


lol!!
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 14:23     Subject: Re:UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
The source is lame, OP.

I see you left out the conservative aspect of the accusing publication in your original post.


“An article published Tuesday in The Daily Wire, a conservative American media outlet, asserted Pines lifted portions of the papers from a website published in 1996.”

Why would an American conservative publication care about the UMD president? Hmmm…
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 14:18     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:Maybe we're taking this idea of plagiarism thing too far. It really is a construct of system built on oppression and the old ideas of academic honesty might be ripe for a new paradigm where the oppressors aren't the perpetual rule-makers.

🫨 pine, that you?

No, that should never be acceptable no matter who does it.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 14:17     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Maybe we're taking this idea of plagiarism thing too far. It really is a construct of system built on oppression and the old ideas of academic honesty might be ripe for a new paradigm where the oppressors aren't the perpetual rule-makers.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 14:09     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Who knew UMCP was so much like Harvard.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 11:37     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has really become a disgrace for my alma mater. I am so glad my kid is done with UMD in December

Why exactly? MIT gave him the PhD and allowed him to plagiarize freely, not UMD.


I think MIT gave Neri Oxman a free pass around the same time?



Oxman is conservative. No one expects conservatives to have new ideas; mew ideas are against their ideology
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 10:52     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
I have not been impressed with some of the prior allegations (slicing and dicing lit review and terminology) but this is bad. Paragraph after paragraph where the only changes are Americanizing specific words…
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 10:34     Subject: Re:UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the data and results his own?

Were the results correct and methodology sound?

He still plagiarized. He should've given credit to the quotes when he used the words verbatim.

Our MS kids even know to do that. Stop making excuses for liars.

Remember how people were outraged when Melania Trump plagiarized parts of Michelle Obama's speech?

This is worse because he's in academia, leading a college where academic dishonesty can get you kicked out of college.


I could understand 1 or 2 lines or even a paragraph accidentally left unchanged and unattributed, but 1500 words is a lot. This is about the most straightforward case of plagiarism as you can get.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 10:32     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has really become a disgrace for my alma mater. I am so glad my kid is done with UMD in December

Why exactly? MIT gave him the PhD and allowed him to plagiarize freely, not UMD.


I think MIT gave Neri Oxman a free pass around the same time?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 09:34     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has really become a disgrace for my alma mater. I am so glad my kid is done with UMD in December

Why exactly? MIT gave him the PhD and allowed him to plagiarize freely, not UMD.


This is not MIT’s fault. This happened way back in 2002. Plagiarism detectors did not exist back then. Someone would have had to notice this copying from ann obscure website and turn him in.


I'd bet there was computer at Google at indexed both documents in 2002 and gave them a high document-similarity score. But that wouldn't be displayed to the public.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 09:32     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has really become a disgrace for my alma mater. I am so glad my kid is done with UMD in December

Why exactly? MIT gave him the PhD and allowed him to plagiarize freely, not UMD.


No, he was a professor at UMD since 1992, during all of his known plagiarism incidents.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darryll_Pines


Minor correction: at UMD since 1995
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2024 09:30     Subject: UMD President's serious plagiarism comes to light
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has really become a disgrace for my alma mater. I am so glad my kid is done with UMD in December

Why exactly? MIT gave him the PhD and allowed him to plagiarize freely, not UMD.


This is not MIT’s fault. This happened way back in 2002. Plagiarism detectors did not exist back then. Someone would have had to notice this copying from ann obscure website and turn him in.


It's not MIT's fault because this happened 10 years after Pines left MIT.