Anonymous
09/16/2024 13:20
Subject: Re:Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Our private kindergarten has not assigned HW yet. And the private I went to did not assign HW until first grade (granted that was 30 years ago and the private I went to now very much assigns HW as early as prek, according to my friends who have kids there.)
Anonymous
09/15/2024 16:46
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do it or don’t do it, but please don’t email the teacher or admin about it. Early elementary teachers get soooooo many emails about the dumbest things. Here are some of my emails from this week:
“My kid isn’t allowed chocolate milk.”
“My kid is going to ride the bus/walk/go to aftercare.” X50 (We need to know but there are just so emails!!!)
“I think my kid has X disability.” (Very important! Almost lost among the chocolate milk emails.)
“Can you send a link to the movement break videos so I can review?”
Just please, please, please chill with the emails the first month unless it matters.
A lot of parents don't want their kids of any grade level drinking it. What do you suggest parents do to keep their kids from grabbing it and drinking it? Given how many parents complain about it, how can parents convince the school to stop making it available?
Its chocolate milk, what's the big deal? I'm am adult who loves it.
Anonymous
09/15/2024 15:33
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ours does not. Homework isn't developmentally appropriate in Kindergarten.
You don't get to decide what is developmentally appropriate for all kindergarteners. You only know what your own child's limits are. Mine do homework just fine and their penmanship has improved through enforced practice. I'm very thankful my children's kindergarten teachers have taken the time to put together the handwriting packets personalized to each student's particular needs because it's a p.i.t.a. to make those.
I'm not just saying that, that's what the national organizations and experts say (including my mom who had a PhD in early childhood education and taught for 50 years).
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/kindergarten-homework-too-much-too-early/2018/11
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/articles/should-kids-get-homework#:~:text=The%20key%20to%20effective%20homework,in%20first%20and%20second%20grade.
https://parentingscience.com/homework-for-young-children/
Go and actually read the studies. They lack good sample sizes and also lack good controls. As a result they don't matter. Sadly, this is a problem with many studies of education.
Completely agree. Also that first article starts with an anecdote about a kid that didn't even go to preschool? No wonder his K HW is taking forever.
Anonymous
09/15/2024 15:22
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ours does not. Homework isn't developmentally appropriate in Kindergarten.
You don't get to decide what is developmentally appropriate for all kindergarteners. You only know what your own child's limits are. Mine do homework just fine and their penmanship has improved through enforced practice. I'm very thankful my children's kindergarten teachers have taken the time to put together the handwriting packets personalized to each student's particular needs because it's a p.i.t.a. to make those.
I'm not just saying that, that's what the national organizations and experts say (including my mom who had a PhD in early childhood education and taught for 50 years).
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/kindergarten-homework-too-much-too-early/2018/11
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/articles/should-kids-get-homework#:~:text=The%20key%20to%20effective%20homework,in%20first%20and%20second%20grade.
https://parentingscience.com/homework-for-young-children/
Go and actually read the studies. They lack good sample sizes and also lack good controls. As a result they don't matter. Sadly, this is a problem with many studies of education.
Anonymous
09/14/2024 22:25
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do it or don’t do it, but please don’t email the teacher or admin about it. Early elementary teachers get soooooo many emails about the dumbest things. Here are some of my emails from this week:
“My kid isn’t allowed chocolate milk.”
“My kid is going to ride the bus/walk/go to aftercare.” X50 (We need to know but there are just so emails!!!)
“I think my kid has X disability.” (Very important! Almost lost among the chocolate milk emails.)
“Can you send a link to the movement break videos so I can review?”
Just please, please, please chill with the emails the first month unless it matters.
A lot of parents don't want their kids of any grade level drinking it. What do you suggest parents do to keep their kids from grabbing it and drinking it? Given how many parents complain about it, how can parents convince the school to stop making it available?
I guess you are the mom(s) who sent me this email! Haha
If you don’t want your kid to eat something, tell them. I cannot monitor their drink consumption at lunch. I’m not even in the room!
"Larlo, please don't drink the chocolate milk at school."
"OK, Mom."
Proceeds to drink chocolate milk at school.
NP so instead you want to the lunch monitors to know the food preferences of 50 kids? Or the teacher, who also needs to eat their lunch, to know the food requests of 20 kids and monitor it at all times? That’s a ridiculous request and just not going to happen.
Also I know lots of kindergartners. Even they know what their parents do or don’t want them to eat, including being careful about allergies.
No, we want the school to stop offering sugary crap to children who haven’t developed self control yet.
And you think telling the teacher you don’t want your kid drinking chocolate milk is the route to accomplish what you want? Take it up with the school board or central office. This is completely outside the control of the teachers.
Anonymous
09/14/2024 14:23
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ours does not. Homework isn't developmentally appropriate in Kindergarten.
You don't get to decide what is developmentally appropriate for all kindergarteners. You only know what your own child's limits are. Mine do homework just fine and their penmanship has improved through enforced practice. I'm very thankful my children's kindergarten teachers have taken the time to put together the handwriting packets personalized to each student's particular needs because it's a p.i.t.a. to make those.
I'm not just saying that, that's what the national organizations and experts say (including my mom who had a PhD in early childhood education and taught for 50 years).
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/kindergarten-homework-too-much-too-early/2018/11
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/articles/should-kids-get-homework#:~:text=The%20key%20to%20effective%20homework,in%20first%20and%20second%20grade.
https://parentingscience.com/homework-for-young-children/
These studies are not able to account for parental academic enrichment on the side, which is their fatal flaw.
When schools and teachers don't assign homework, half the parent create it themselves--unbeknownst to the teacher, school, and education researchers. That's why much of the educational research on anything but poor kids is so bad. Poor kids definitely get most of their education from school, but for everyone else, there are tons of other factors that just go over researchers' heads.
If you have actual evidence for that and that homework is effective for Kindergartens, go ahead and post it. But asserting you know better than the experts with no support? Nope.
You want validation for your personal preference so you accept poorly design studies that dont properly control for variables. Nope.
Yes because they can do double blind studies in real world settings. You're dismissing science and experts based on your own opinion, offer no actual support for your opinion and think that's valid?
Yeah, that's not a reasonable way to make education policy.
Anonymous
09/14/2024 14:01
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ours does not. Homework isn't developmentally appropriate in Kindergarten.
You don't get to decide what is developmentally appropriate for all kindergarteners. You only know what your own child's limits are. Mine do homework just fine and their penmanship has improved through enforced practice. I'm very thankful my children's kindergarten teachers have taken the time to put together the handwriting packets personalized to each student's particular needs because it's a p.i.t.a. to make those.
I'm not just saying that, that's what the national organizations and experts say (including my mom who had a PhD in early childhood education and taught for 50 years).
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/kindergarten-homework-too-much-too-early/2018/11
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/articles/should-kids-get-homework#:~:text=The%20key%20to%20effective%20homework,in%20first%20and%20second%20grade.
https://parentingscience.com/homework-for-young-children/
These studies are not able to account for parental academic enrichment on the side, which is their fatal flaw.
When schools and teachers don't assign homework, half the parent create it themselves--unbeknownst to the teacher, school, and education researchers. That's why much of the educational research on anything but poor kids is so bad. Poor kids definitely get most of their education from school, but for everyone else, there are tons of other factors that just go over researchers' heads.
If you have actual evidence for that and that homework is effective for Kindergartens, go ahead and post it. But asserting you know better than the experts with no support? Nope.
You want validation for your personal preference so you accept poorly design studies that dont properly control for variables. Nope.
Anonymous
09/14/2024 13:58
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ours does not. Homework isn't developmentally appropriate in Kindergarten.
You don't get to decide what is developmentally appropriate for all kindergarteners. You only know what your own child's limits are. Mine do homework just fine and their penmanship has improved through enforced practice. I'm very thankful my children's kindergarten teachers have taken the time to put together the handwriting packets personalized to each student's particular needs because it's a p.i.t.a. to make those.
I'm not just saying that, that's what the national organizations and experts say (including my mom who had a PhD in early childhood education and taught for 50 years).
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/kindergarten-homework-too-much-too-early/2018/11
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/articles/should-kids-get-homework#:~:text=The%20key%20to%20effective%20homework,in%20first%20and%20second%20grade.
https://parentingscience.com/homework-for-young-children/
These studies are not able to account for parental academic enrichment on the side, which is their fatal flaw.
When schools and teachers don't assign homework, half the parent create it themselves--unbeknownst to the teacher, school, and education researchers. That's why much of the educational research on anything but poor kids is so bad. Poor kids definitely get most of their education from school, but for everyone else, there are tons of other factors that just go over researchers' heads.
If you have actual evidence for that and that homework is effective for Kindergartens, go ahead and post it. But asserting you know better than the experts with no support? Nope.
Anonymous
09/14/2024 13:46
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ours does not. Homework isn't developmentally appropriate in Kindergarten.
You don't get to decide what is developmentally appropriate for all kindergarteners. You only know what your own child's limits are. Mine do homework just fine and their penmanship has improved through enforced practice. I'm very thankful my children's kindergarten teachers have taken the time to put together the handwriting packets personalized to each student's particular needs because it's a p.i.t.a. to make those.
I'm not just saying that, that's what the national organizations and experts say (including my mom who had a PhD in early childhood education and taught for 50 years).
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/kindergarten-homework-too-much-too-early/2018/11
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/articles/should-kids-get-homework#:~:text=The%20key%20to%20effective%20homework,in%20first%20and%20second%20grade.
https://parentingscience.com/homework-for-young-children/
These studies are not able to account for parental academic enrichment on the side, which is their fatal flaw.
When schools and teachers don't assign homework, half the parent create it themselves--unbeknownst to the teacher, school, and education researchers. That's why much of the educational research on anything but poor kids is so bad. Poor kids definitely get most of their education from school, but for everyone else, there are tons of other factors that just go over researchers' heads.
Anonymous
09/14/2024 13:17
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do it or don’t do it, but please don’t email the teacher or admin about it. Early elementary teachers get soooooo many emails about the dumbest things. Here are some of my emails from this week:
“My kid isn’t allowed chocolate milk.”
“My kid is going to ride the bus/walk/go to aftercare.” X50 (We need to know but there are just so emails!!!)
“I think my kid has X disability.” (Very important! Almost lost among the chocolate milk emails.)
“Can you send a link to the movement break videos so I can review?”
Just please, please, please chill with the emails the first month unless it matters.
A lot of parents don't want their kids of any grade level drinking it. What do you suggest parents do to keep their kids from grabbing it and drinking it? Given how many parents complain about it, how can parents convince the school to stop making it available?
I guess you are the mom(s) who sent me this email! Haha
If you don’t want your kid to eat something, tell them. I cannot monitor their drink consumption at lunch. I’m not even in the room!
"Larlo, please don't drink the chocolate milk at school."
"OK, Mom."
Proceeds to drink chocolate milk at school.
NP so instead you want to the lunch monitors to know the food preferences of 50 kids? Or the teacher, who also needs to eat their lunch, to know the food requests of 20 kids and monitor it at all times? That’s a ridiculous request and just not going to happen.
Also I know lots of kindergartners. Even they know what their parents do or don’t want them to eat, including being careful about allergies.
No, we want the school to stop offering sugary crap to children who haven’t developed self control yet.
+100
Some little kids will do as their parents ask, some will just plain forget, and some will sneak it because the sugar is **addictive**. Schools have a responsibility to not make this available to the younger kids who can't help themselves. I think 2nd grade and up it is reasonable to expect a child to make good choices. Pre-K through 1st, they need adults around them to keep the sugar out of reach. We are not asking for much.
Chocolate milk doesn’t even begin to cover what’s wrong with school provided food. I worked in a school and the breakfasts were terrible. Sugary cereal with lofat milk, sugary yogurt, sweet buns, sugary muffins, fruit, and the most nutritious non-sugary food you could hope for was powdered eggs reheated.
But even this school junk is the best and sometimes only food some of our kids are getting. I just don’t know why we can’t spend more than $1 or whatever per kid to feed them.
Anonymous
09/14/2024 13:15
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ours does not. Homework isn't developmentally appropriate in Kindergarten.
You don't get to decide what is developmentally appropriate for all kindergarteners. You only know what your own child's limits are. Mine do homework just fine and their penmanship has improved through enforced practice. I'm very thankful my children's kindergarten teachers have taken the time to put together the handwriting packets personalized to each student's particular needs because it's a p.i.t.a. to make those.
I'm not just saying that, that's what the national organizations and experts say (including my mom who had a PhD in early childhood education and taught for 50 years).
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/kindergarten-homework-too-much-too-early/2018/11
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/articles/should-kids-get-homework#:~:text=The%20key%20to%20effective%20homework,in%20first%20and%20second%20grade.
https://parentingscience.com/homework-for-young-children/
Anonymous
09/14/2024 13:10
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Ours does not. Homework isn't developmentally appropriate in Kindergarten.
You don't get to decide what is developmentally appropriate for all kindergarteners. You only know what your own child's limits are. Mine do homework just fine and their penmanship has improved through enforced practice. I'm very thankful my children's kindergarten teachers have taken the time to put together the handwriting packets personalized to each student's particular needs because it's a p.i.t.a. to make those.
Anonymous
09/14/2024 13:06
Subject: Does your kindergarten assign homework?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do it or don’t do it, but please don’t email the teacher or admin about it. Early elementary teachers get soooooo many emails about the dumbest things. Here are some of my emails from this week:
“My kid isn’t allowed chocolate milk.”
“My kid is going to ride the bus/walk/go to aftercare.” X50 (We need to know but there are just so emails!!!)
“I think my kid has X disability.” (Very important! Almost lost among the chocolate milk emails.)
“Can you send a link to the movement break videos so I can review?”
Just please, please, please chill with the emails the first month unless it matters.
A lot of parents don't want their kids of any grade level drinking it. What do you suggest parents do to keep their kids from grabbing it and drinking it? Given how many parents complain about it, how can parents convince the school to stop making it available?
I guess you are the mom(s) who sent me this email! Haha
If you don’t want your kid to eat something, tell them. I cannot monitor their drink consumption at lunch. I’m not even in the room!
"Larlo, please don't drink the chocolate milk at school."
"OK, Mom."
Proceeds to drink chocolate milk at school.
NP so instead you want to the lunch monitors to know the food preferences of 50 kids? Or the teacher, who also needs to eat their lunch, to know the food requests of 20 kids and monitor it at all times? That’s a ridiculous request and just not going to happen.
Also I know lots of kindergartners. Even they know what their parents do or don’t want them to eat, including being careful about allergies.
No, we want the school to stop offering sugary crap to children who haven’t developed self control yet.
+100
Some little kids will do as their parents ask, some will just plain forget, and some will sneak it because the sugar is **addictive**. Schools have a responsibility to not make this available to the younger kids who can't help themselves. I think 2nd grade and up it is reasonable to expect a child to make good choices. Pre-K through 1st, they need adults around them to keep the sugar out of reach. We are not asking for much.