Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're in NY state (public) and according to our school's Naviance stats, Washington University of St. Louis is a big yield protect school.

It's not a super popular school for us, but in the past three years, Wash U accepted a handful of students in the 1330-1400 range with 3.91+ . . . but denied or WL quite a few more with 1500+ and 3.95+

When we dug in to the scattergrams of admit/WL/deny for our school, Wash U seemed like a genuine outlier re yield protection. Curious what others have seen.

Very likely Wash U applicants were TO. You can’t tell that from Scattergrams.

Obviously you can’t know why it was a no for an applicant, but we weee surprised that our 1500+, high rigor, etc etc kid didn’t get into Wash. CS/Engineering was probably part of it. But the TO environment didn’t help. And maybe not many from our public didn’t help either.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools that offer ED yield protect.

This is true, and some schools with very low admissions rates are more notorious for their aggressive/opaque ED practices than others, making it essentially impossible to get in during RD and releasing murky (or no) stats about ED vs. RD rates.

Chicago, Tufts, Colby, Northeastern come to mind.

They get excellent pool of applicants who picked their school #1.
I don't blame the schools accepting the students.

Who do you even know who invented EDs LOL.
It's UPenn and Ivies to game the system and they created the gaming system LOL

Not sure what you’re saying, exactly, but it doesn’t seem like you’re disagreeing that these schools use ED to yield protect.

The issue is that, unlike other schools that offer ED, they are not transparent about it. They don’t include ED data in their CDSs, so you can’t see ED acceptance rates or percentage of class accepted during ED. That is shady.

(And to clarify, Northeastern does publish this data in their CDS. Chicago, Tufts, and Colby do not.)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools that offer ED yield protect.

This is true, and some schools with very low admissions rates are more notorious for their aggressive/opaque ED practices than others, making it essentially impossible to get in during RD and releasing murky (or no) stats about ED vs. RD rates.

Chicago, Tufts, Colby, Northeastern come to mind.

They get excellent pool of applicants who picked their school #1.
I don't blame the schools accepting the students.

Who do you even know who invented EDs LOL.
It's UPenn and Ivies to game the system and they created the gaming system LOL

Anonymous wrote:Schools that offer ED yield protect.

This is true, and some schools with very low admissions rates are more notorious for their aggressive/opaque ED practices than others, making it essentially impossible to get in during RD and releasing murky (or no) stats about ED vs. RD rates.

Chicago, Tufts, Colby, Northeastern come to mind.

Yield protection = how people convince themselves their kid was too good for that selective school when they actually got the expected, most common outcome.

Schools that offer ED yield protect.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of the schools listed here are safeties.

What are some examples of safeties that don’t yield-protect?

By definition, safeties don’t yield protect. They accept 70%+. The students who don’t get into safeties have low stats, not high.

A safety is different from a likely—a likely is where based on your stats and the school’s acceptance rate, you should be “likely” to get in. It’s a relative concept based on any given kid’s profile; for kids with high stats, likelies are often schools in the 40-50% acceptance rate range, and those schools (particularly the privates) seem most prone to engaging in yield protection.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:virginia tech big time

1. VT is not a safety.
2. VT does not yield-protect and says as much right on their website.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."

https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html#:~:text=Virginia%20Tech%20does%20not,participate%20in%20yield%20protection.

State schools don't.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So according to that list, BC, BU, UChicago, Franklin & Marshall, GWU, Case, Grinnell, Johns Hopkins, Kenyon, Lehigh, NYU, Northeastern, RPI, Rice, Swarthmore, UCLA, Michigan,USC, Tufts and WashU in St. Louis all yield protect.

This list is compiled by a rigorous scientific examination of all data, culminating in this gem:

"Real or not, below is a list of schools commonly associated with the practice of yield protection"

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DO YOU GUYS ACTUALLY FALL FOR THIS CLICKBAIT?

Many of these schools have single or close to single digit acceptance rates full of high stat kids. Don't worry about yield protection. LOL

+100 Lol

Anonymous wrote:So according to that list, BC, BU, UChicago, Franklin & Marshall, GWU, Case, Grinnell, Johns Hopkins, Kenyon, Lehigh, NYU, Northeastern, RPI, Rice, Swarthmore, UCLA, Michigan,USC, Tufts and WashU in St. Louis all yield protect.

This list is compiled by a rigorous scientific examination of all data, culminating in this gem:

"Real or not, below is a list of schools commonly associated with the practice of yield protection"

____
DO YOU GUYS ACTUALLY FALL FOR THIS CLICKBAIT?

Many of these schools have single or close to single digit acceptance rates full of high stat kids. Don't worry about yield protection. LOL

Anonymous wrote:We're in NY state (public) and according to our school's Naviance stats, Washington University of St. Louis is a big yield protect school.

It's not a super popular school for us, but in the past three years, Wash U accepted a handful of students in the 1330-1400 range with 3.91+ . . . but denied or WL quite a few more with 1500+ and 3.95+

When we dug in to the scattergrams of admit/WL/deny for our school, Wash U seemed like a genuine outlier re yield protection. Curious what others have seen.

Very likely Wash U applicants were TO. You can’t tell that from Scattergrams.

Anonymous wrote:NYU and BU are not easy safeties at all.
They have full of high stat kids.

+1000
Even with similar high stats, some get in while others don't.
Don't just focus on those who didn't get in (especially your own kids) and assume it's yield protection.

Only 1 out of 10 kids get accepted into these schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:virginia tech big time

1. VT is not a safety.
2. VT does not yield-protect and says as much right on their website.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."

https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html#:~:text=Virginia%20Tech%20does%20not,participate%20in%20yield%20protection.

OP here.
I’ve heard that if you have over a 1500 SAT to watch out with VT. That’s really sad because it’s a top choice for my son. He submitted his app early (yesterday) plus we toured in Jan. Hopefully that signals to VT, that he is interested.

DP
SAT scores don’t matter as much as GPA and the VT essays. VT does not yield protect.

So according to that list, BC, BU, UChicago, Franklin & Marshall, GWU, Case, Grinnell, Johns Hopkins, Kenyon, Lehigh, NYU, Northeastern, RPI, Rice, Swarthmore, UCLA, Michigan,USC, Tufts and WashU in St. Louis all yield protect.

This list is compiled by a rigorous scientific examination of all data, culminating in this gem:

"Real or not, below is a list of schools commonly associated with the practice of yield protection"

____
DO YOU GUYS ACTUALLY FALL FOR THIS CLICKBAIT?

NYU and BU are not easy safeties at all.
They have full of high stat kids.