Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:48     Subject: Re:Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe that people I know are intelligent, sane people have voted for him and will vote for him again. It boggles my mind.

The MAGA cult is a whole other level. They seem to see him as portrayed on his trading cards, like a superhero that has zero basis in reality.



Why? Just why?


Immigration. My very sane parents, who raised me to be an independent thinker, tolerant of all and non-judgmental, are all in on Trump's plans for the border. That is their single issue, and they literally don't care about anything else. Oh, and 2A. Dad is convinced some Democrat boogeyman is going to swoop in and take his guns.

They're in their late 70s and readily admit their belief that any other issues (environment, gun control, RvW) will never impact them in the long run, so why should they care? This despite the fact that they have 2 young granddaughters who have to grow up in the world they leave behind, and their own DD (that would be me) had a medically necessary abortion to save my life, of the type being denied to many in Texas, Idaho, etc.

I'm an only child and love my parents very much. We don't talk about anything that might turn political.


But, don’t we all want the police to take his guns away?


Uhhh, no? Sensible gun control and enforcement of laws already on the books =/= "take all the guns away".


Kamala is on video saying she supports mandatory buybacks using lists of registered gun owners. That may be where PP’s dad is getting his idea of “some Democrat boogeyman.”


Nope, I'm actually the same PP. That isn't where he gets that idea. He literally thinks they're going to go door to door and search for all the guns. At every home in the country. No idea where that particular thought came from.


If there is a mandatory buyback and you don’t turn in your gun, the government could use a list of registered gun owner and go to your house and pick it up for you. It’s the logical next step.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:32     Subject: Re:Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe that people I know are intelligent, sane people have voted for him and will vote for him again. It boggles my mind.

The MAGA cult is a whole other level. They seem to see him as portrayed on his trading cards, like a superhero that has zero basis in reality.



Why? Just why?


Immigration. My very sane parents, who raised me to be an independent thinker, tolerant of all and non-judgmental, are all in on Trump's plans for the border. That is their single issue, and they literally don't care about anything else. Oh, and 2A. Dad is convinced some Democrat boogeyman is going to swoop in and take his guns.

They're in their late 70s and readily admit their belief that any other issues (environment, gun control, RvW) will never impact them in the long run, so why should they care? This despite the fact that they have 2 young granddaughters who have to grow up in the world they leave behind, and their own DD (that would be me) had a medically necessary abortion to save my life, of the type being denied to many in Texas, Idaho, etc.

I'm an only child and love my parents very much. We don't talk about anything that might turn political.


But, don’t we all want the police to take his guns away?


Uhhh, no? Sensible gun control and enforcement of laws already on the books =/= "take all the guns away".


Kamala is on video saying she supports mandatory buybacks using lists of registered gun owners. That may be where PP’s dad is getting his idea of “some Democrat boogeyman.”


Nope, I'm actually the same PP. That isn't where he gets that idea. He literally thinks they're going to go door to door and search for all the guns. At every home in the country. No idea where that particular thought came from.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:30     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

Wait a minute. Kamala told us we have to be filled with JOY.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:27     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

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Anonymous wrote:What is the definition of "mandatory buybacks"?

Is that confiscation of property?


You turn in your gun and the government pays you for it but you don’t have a choice.


So it's changing the language from mandatory gun confiscation to fool people. Got it. Thanks.


You are correct.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:26     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the definition of "mandatory buybacks"?

Is that confiscation of property?


You turn in your gun and the government pays you for it but you don’t have a choice.


So it's changing the language from mandatory gun confiscation to fool people. Got it. Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:24     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that I’m depressed but I sure as hell don’t respect this country anymore and have lost the last shred of my patriotism. I can’t believe that that POS is running for a 3rd time and that there are still many millions willing to vote for him—fool me once but fool me three times?!


He's not a threat. He can't possibly win.

His campaign is in a "death spiral".
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:22     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

Anonymous wrote:What is the definition of "mandatory buybacks"?

Is that confiscation of property?


You turn in your gun and the government pays you for it but you don’t have a choice.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:20     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

I don’t know that I’m depressed but I sure as hell don’t respect this country anymore and have lost the last shred of my patriotism. I can’t believe that that POS is running for a 3rd time and that there are still many millions willing to vote for him—fool me once but fool me three times?!
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:19     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

What is the definition of "mandatory buybacks"?

Is that confiscation of property?
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:14     Subject: Re:Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe that people I know are intelligent, sane people have voted for him and will vote for him again. It boggles my mind.

The MAGA cult is a whole other level. They seem to see him as portrayed on his trading cards, like a superhero that has zero basis in reality.



Why? Just why?


Immigration. My very sane parents, who raised me to be an independent thinker, tolerant of all and non-judgmental, are all in on Trump's plans for the border. That is their single issue, and they literally don't care about anything else. Oh, and 2A. Dad is convinced some Democrat boogeyman is going to swoop in and take his guns.

They're in their late 70s and readily admit their belief that any other issues (environment, gun control, RvW) will never impact them in the long run, so why should they care? This despite the fact that they have 2 young granddaughters who have to grow up in the world they leave behind, and their own DD (that would be me) had a medically necessary abortion to save my life, of the type being denied to many in Texas, Idaho, etc.

I'm an only child and love my parents very much. We don't talk about anything that might turn political.


But, don’t we all want the police to take his guns away?


Uhhh, no? Sensible gun control and enforcement of laws already on the books =/= "take all the guns away".


Kamala is on video saying she supports mandatory buybacks using lists of registered gun owners. That may be where PP’s dad is getting his idea of “some Democrat boogeyman.”
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 13:13     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

This has been a violent, bigoted, anti-intellectual, corrupt country for most of its existence. The new thing is that what historically was brutality, oppression, and corruption by local and state ruling clans/sects/conspirators has become a nationalized movement due to technology advancements.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 12:20     Subject: Re:Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe that people I know are intelligent, sane people have voted for him and will vote for him again. It boggles my mind.

The MAGA cult is a whole other level. They seem to see him as portrayed on his trading cards, like a superhero that has zero basis in reality.



Why? Just why?


Immigration. My very sane parents, who raised me to be an independent thinker, tolerant of all and non-judgmental, are all in on Trump's plans for the border. That is their single issue, and they literally don't care about anything else. Oh, and 2A. Dad is convinced some Democrat boogeyman is going to swoop in and take his guns.

They're in their late 70s and readily admit their belief that any other issues (environment, gun control, RvW) will never impact them in the long run, so why should they care? This despite the fact that they have 2 young granddaughters who have to grow up in the world they leave behind, and their own DD (that would be me) had a medically necessary abortion to save my life, of the type being denied to many in Texas, Idaho, etc.

I'm an only child and love my parents very much. We don't talk about anything that might turn political.


But, don’t we all want the police to take his guns away?


Uhhh, no? Sensible gun control and enforcement of laws already on the books =/= "take all the guns away".
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 11:23     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

Anonymous wrote:Come November, no matter who wins, half the country is going to be angry. That could be dangerous.


Welcome to American elections. The losing side is always frustrated and disappointed and always has been and will be. Only trump threw an ugly, immature, destructive, anti-American tantrum over it and the sooner we are rid of him the better
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 10:59     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

Anonymous wrote:Modern society has bred a simmering anger in a lot of people. I attribute it to loss of community and feeling “unimportant” compared to the mass of celebrity and wealth culture that’s promulgated by the mass media. In 1940 you could feel good about living in a small town, participating in church, running a small business or farm, and being a “big fish in a small pond.” It provided the emotional support for a satisfying life. Today we’re isolated and resentful. We constantly compare ourselves to pop celebrities and billionaires and feel worthless. The anger builds and the MAGA bullies are able to harness it for political ends.



I agree with this assessment. Another huge factor adding to the resentment is the broken promise of our work culture in America. Employees are overworked and rewarded with pizza. Meanwhile the c-suite employees are rewarded with huge pay, bonuses, and compensation packages. No longer is an employee rewarded with a gold watch or a nice pension for their years of working for one company. Instead we are all pitted against each other to try to create some sort of existence.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2024 10:44     Subject: Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

Anonymous wrote:I’m sadder every day by the uneducated, racist, misogynistic, homophobic citizens of this country. I just can’t believe how many of them are out there. It’s depressing.


I think those people are a loud minority.

I also think for the majority of people on both sides who are somewhere in the middle there is burn out - on cancel culture and the wokeness hype. As people have returned to the life they knew before covid and things have become busy for them again, they have less energy to devote.