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This seems like a MAGA troll post.

It's a Republican who hates Trump.

It's a Republican who wants to virtue signal that they "hate" Trump while supporting everything he stands for.

If they're voting for a Republican senator then they're voting for Trump's policies, because they all vote party line unless there's a multiple vote margin and it's their turn to get to be the one or two symbolic "dissenting" votes that don't actually matter.

If you're voting for Hogan you're voting for MAGA, abortion bans, and Project 2025. Plain and simple.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess you could call me a centrist. I'm a pro-business, less-government-is-needed kind of voter. That said, I despise trump for all the reasons you can think of. I greatly respect Hogan, however, for his work in MD and his values.

So I will 100% be voting Harris, and also voting Hogan for MD senate. I hope both win! Not looking forward to Harris hiking my taxes...

Who else is in the same camp?

This completely. I am pro-choice, but figure if Harris wins that will help. Also, I see all the ballot initiatives and am heartened those will pass.

But on taxes, we could see the largest tax increase in history if Democrats win the WH and both houses. With the Trump tax cuts expiring, it’s the new admin that would direct tax policy. We need just one house divided so that the democrats have to negotiate.

Another vote for Harris-Hogan.

We are seeing in Montgomery County what happens when you vote in too many politicians with the same perspective.

Alsobrooks claims to support affordable housing, but does she mean affordable housing or does she mean that she supports the bizarre libertarian YIMBY zoning changes?

Anonymous wrote:With an upset win looking more and more likely in Nebraska, the Senate is becoming interesting.

Do say more about the possible upset in Nebraska!

Anonymous wrote:I guess you could call me a centrist. I'm a pro-business, less-government-is-needed kind of voter. That said, I despise trump for all the reasons you can think of. I greatly respect Hogan, however, for his work in MD and his values.

So I will 100% be voting Harris, and also voting Hogan for MD senate. I hope both win! Not looking forward to Harris hiking my taxes...

Who else is in the same camp?

This completely. I am pro-choice, but figure if Harris wins that will help. Also, I see all the ballot initiatives and am heartened those will pass.

But on taxes, we could see the largest tax increase in history if Democrats win the WH and both houses. With the Trump tax cuts expiring, it’s the new admin that would direct tax policy. We need just one house divided so that the democrats have to negotiate.

This is a tough one, OP. I liked Hogan as governor, despite the R next to his name. I was also impressed with Alsobrooks at the DNC. I'm very much a moderate and I think if it weren't Trump running for president, it would be a no-brainer for me to vote for Hogan. I've more or less approved of his track record and think he's good for Maryland.

But I just can't, knowing that it will have larger implications for the country if Trump wins. I can't risk it. I don't doubt that Hogan will break with Trump on a lot of issues and I expect that he would be like Joe Manchin was to Democrats. But ultimately, I think he'll vote with his party on things that really matter, and his party has proven that it's hardline backwards.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you ok with Hogan confirming any Trump Supreme Court nominees?

I like Hogan. I’d vote for him for other offices, but giving the GOP another vote in the senate, no.

If Hogan is a centrist, as his record shows, why do you think he would vote for anything far right? Has he while MD Governor? He knows who elected him and who he would be representing.

Hogan had no choice but to kinda sorta act like a centrist. His hands were tied by the Democratic majority in both houses. Here are some of his not very centrist actions, that lead me to believe that he will be the next coming of Susan Collins. All hat, no cattle.

As governor, Hogan vetoed legislation to gradually increase the minimum wage to $15 over several years. He also vetoed an earned sick leave bill requiring workers to be given five paid sick days per year, and the establishment of a paid family and medical leave insurance program.

He vetoed the education reform legislation called Blueprint for Maryland’s Future, developed by the Kirwan Commission which would “expand pre-kindergarten programs and increase funding for schools with high concentrations of poverty, increase pay and career opportunities for teachers, create new career pathways for high schoolers who don’t plan to attend college, and establish an accountability board….”

He vetoed background checks for the sale and transfer of shotguns and rifles.

He vetoed a law to increase the number of trained providers and availability of services for reproductive healthcare, including in the two-thirds of Maryland counties without a single provider. After the Maryland General Assembly overrode his veto, Hogan denied a request from the state comptroller to release $3.5 million in appropriated funds for training new providers in quality and safe care.

There is probably a bunch more things I have omitted. A lot of Marylanders lack awareness of how damaging his actions could've been, because they were shielded from the worst of it by the vetoes getting overridden.

I would consider voting for Hogan if he ran as an Independent. Sort of like Angus King from Maine. Instead he'd be like Susan Collins... "deeply concerned" while going along with everything the far-right wants.
It is a huge gamble and I would urge you to reconsider at least unless it looked like Harris was far and away the frontrunner. If there's a chance Trump wins, there's a certainty he would appoint far-right judges and Hogan would fall in line to confirm all of them, and he'd try and justify it by pontificating about the need to work together to move forward instead of partisan bickering yada yada yada.

Anonymous wrote:Me too, and several of my friends and family are as well.
I think Hogan is the right choice for Maryland and I like what he did governor. I also think Harris is the right choice for the United States.

What hogan did for Maryland was not be youngkin. He couldn’t do the damage he wanted because he was stopped by a Democrat controlled legislature. Think about the things he wanted to do, but was blocked. He is not a centrist if given a republican control. A Trump presidency and a McConnell like senate, what could go wrong, again.

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Anonymous wrote:I am also voting for Harris and Hogan. It’s going to be a shitshow either way but I would not want our government controlled by just one party.

The house is not flipping to the Dems, so it would not be controlled by one party. Considering the senate is the busy that decides on which judges would be confirmed, I find it horrifying that we get more and more judges like the judge in Texas that can shut down anything, like he did with the abortion pill, with a stroke of a pen. People talk about the SCOTUs, but the appellate and district court federal judges are far more important and it would be a shame for McConnell and company to stack those courts greater than they already have. Hogan would vote right along the republicans line. People did not learn anything from Collin and Murkowski.

Says who? The House flipping is as likely as not right now.

tesla might lose his seat. Will Casey and brown retain their seats if Pennsylvania and Ohio go for trump. Those races are close and not sure bets. The Dems aren’t flipping any open Republican seats, and the McConnell money is flowing into the Montana, Pennsylvania and ohio Republican senate candidates. The same money that gave us JD Vance.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you ok with Hogan confirming any Trump Supreme Court nominees?

I like Hogan. I’d vote for him for other offices, but giving the GOP another vote in the senate, no.

If Hogan is a centrist, as his record shows, why do you think he would vote for anything far right? Has he while MD Governor? He knows who elected him and who he would be representing.

So did Susan Collins and she still bent the knee to the Trump push. The bottom line is if Hogan wins and want to sit on or lead major committees, he will have to tow the party line or be sidelined. Look how Romney was sidelined in the senate. He was given no leadership positions. So he left.

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This seems like a MAGA troll post.

It's a Republican who hates Trump.

A Governor is not the same as a Senator. A Senator votes party-line.

I’m voting for Trump and Casey in PA

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Anonymous wrote:I guess you could call me a centrist. I'm a pro-business, less-government-is-needed kind of voter. That said, I despise trump for all the reasons you can think of. I greatly respect Hogan, however, for his work in MD and his values.

So I will 100% be voting Harris, and also voting Hogan for MD senate. I hope both win! Not looking forward to Harris hiking my taxes...

Who else is in the same camp?

I'd vote for Hogan in a heart beat. Best local DMV politician since Tony Williams. Who doesn't like a centrist? Well, obviously a lot of people in America these days. Be the voice of reason! If I lived in MD, that's prob how my vote would line up (if I didn't write in someone for Pres, which yes yes, would be a waste of a vote). Go for it OP!

When is a centrist not a centrist? When he’s a Republican in Congress.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess you could call me a centrist. I'm a pro-business, less-government-is-needed kind of voter. That said, I despise trump for all the reasons you can think of. I greatly respect Hogan, however, for his work in MD and his values.

So I will 100% be voting Harris, and also voting Hogan for MD senate. I hope both win! Not looking forward to Harris hiking my taxes...

Who else is in the same camp?

So you want Kamala as the President blocked by McConnell every day in every matter?

McConnell is retiring. So we wouldn’t even get someone as “moderate” as him. Whoever takes over will be way more MAGA.