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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. A couple of things stood out to me.

The outer pointlessness of applying to Harvard - 4/293. That's ridiculous. Save your $85 and have a nice meal.

What a great safety Indiana is - 232/322. Totally underrated school.

And how challenging Vanderbilt is - 12/233. And Duke - 17/368.

It's tough out there.

Grade inflation. So many kids get very, very high grades in MCPS. Anything 89.5% is an A. Quarters are averaged so that an A and B equal an A. It's really hard to do poorly if you're a kid who cares at all. Hence you have almost 400 kids applying to Duke

So true.
Meanwhile 3 kids from a small private get in…

There's an article in today's NY Times about how the most common college that girls at Brearley (fancy NYC private school) matriculate to is Harvard. So much has to do with preferences for legacies and big donors.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. A couple of things stood out to me.

The outer pointlessness of applying to Harvard - 4/293. That's ridiculous. Save your $85 and have a nice meal.

What a great safety Indiana is - 232/322. Totally underrated school.

And how challenging Vanderbilt is - 12/233. And Duke - 17/368.

It's tough out there.

Grade inflation. So many kids get very, very high grades in MCPS. Anything 89.5% is an A. Quarters are averaged so that an A and B equal an A. It's really hard to do poorly if you're a kid who cares at all. Hence you have almost 400 kids applying to Duke

So true.
Meanwhile 3 kids from a small private get in…

There's an article in today's NY Times about how the most common college that girls at Brearley (fancy NYC private school) matriculate to is Harvard. So much has to do with preferences for legacies and big donors.

Anonymous wrote:So to compare apples to apples, here is last year compared to this year for the USNWR top 20 schools.

Brown, Cal Tech, Dartmouth, and Chicago were all up from last year.

Down were Duke, Harvard, Rice, UCLA, Michigan, and Yale.

The rest were around the same.

Bottom line, despite the horrible track record of MCPS, the top students continue to matriculate to top schools at around the same rate.

College Applications/Acceptances/Matriculations

Brown 2023: 389/16/9 2024: 343/24/21
CalTech 2023: 73/3/3 2024: 71/7/3
Columbia 2023: 328/16/7 2024: 350/9/7
Cornell 2023: 499/52/35 2024: 447/54/41
Dartmouth 2023: 154/6/2 2024: 171/11/7
Duke 2023: 346/36/16 2024: 368/17/15
Harvard 2023: 302/11/6 2024: 193/4/4
Hopkins 2023: 422/34/20 2024: 483/34/22
MIT 2023: 197/12/10 2024: 195/11/11
Northwestern 2023: 343/29/17 2024: 313/27/16
Princeton 2023: 307/17/12 2024: 291/16/13
Rice 2023: 120/20/6 2024: 101/9/2
Stanford 2023: 295/12/9 2024: 248/8/5
Berkeley 2023: 320/13/3 2024: 206/15/0
UCLA 2023: 326/38/10 2024: 261/23/7
Chicago 2023: 221/8/6 2024: 194/16/15
Michigan 2023: 651/107/49 2024: 674/89/43
Notre Dame 2023: 79/5/2 2024: 83/5/3
Penn 2023: 518/30/26 2024: 572/34/22
Yale 2023: 307/19/10 2024: 318/11/9

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. A couple of things stood out to me.

The outer pointlessness of applying to Harvard - 4/293. That's ridiculous. Save your $85 and have a nice meal.

What a great safety Indiana is - 232/322. Totally underrated school.

And how challenging Vanderbilt is - 12/233. And Duke - 17/368.

It's tough out there.

Grade inflation. So many kids get very, very high grades in MCPS. Anything 89.5% is an A. Quarters are averaged so that an A and B equal an A. It's really hard to do poorly if you're a kid who cares at all. Hence you have almost 400 kids applying to Duke

So true.
Meanwhile 3 kids from a small private get in…

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. A couple of things stood out to me.

The outer pointlessness of applying to Harvard - 4/293. That's ridiculous. Save your $85 and have a nice meal.

What a great safety Indiana is - 232/322. Totally underrated school.

And how challenging Vanderbilt is - 12/233. And Duke - 17/368.

It's tough out there.

Grade inflation. So many kids get very, very high grades in MCPS. Anything 89.5% is an A. Quarters are averaged so that an A and B equal an A. It's really hard to do poorly if you're a kid who cares at all. Hence you have almost 400 kids applying to Duke

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Anonymous wrote:High schools sometimes report multiple matriculations per student to top schools.

High schools also don't update for anyone past mid-may. No late waitlist movement usually is noted

I still don’t buy it. According to Naviance, three Whitman students were accepted to Princeton (of 36). That waitlist doesn’t move. Either Naviance or the article is wrong.

There is definitely incorrect data for one of the high schools that I know very well. I think the article has some issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not rely on this for accuracy. I know a kid attending an Ivy from an HS that shows no acceptances from that school. Pretty sure a second kid from the same HS is also attending that same Ivy.

Those students may have had hooks. Our high school does not include students who got accepted with a hook (athletic, URM, etc).

So if the only student at your school accepted to Princeton was Latina your school would report 0? DCUM posters just make up anything.

The school reports those acceptances in its annual matriculation report, but they are not included in Naviance as a data point.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not rely on this for accuracy. I know a kid attending an Ivy from an HS that shows no acceptances from that school. Pretty sure a second kid from the same HS is also attending that same Ivy.

Those students may have had hooks. Our high school does not include students who got accepted with a hook (athletic, URM, etc).

So if the only student at your school accepted to Princeton was Latina your school would report 0? DCUM posters just make up anything.

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Anonymous wrote:High schools sometimes report multiple matriculations per student to top schools.

High schools also don't update for anyone past mid-may. No late waitlist movement usually is noted

I still don’t buy it. According to Naviance, three Whitman students were accepted to Princeton (of 36). That waitlist doesn’t move. Either Naviance or the article is wrong.

Anonymous wrote:High schools sometimes report multiple matriculations per student to top schools.

High schools also don't update for anyone past mid-may. No late waitlist movement usually is noted

Anonymous wrote:What's scary is some of the quotes in the article. Like HS having 50% of the class graduating with a weighted 4.0 or above versus half as many 10 years ago.

Or the tutor's quote that she has all these students with inflated weighted 4.7 and 4.8 GPAs but they can't do algebra 1.