Anonymous
09/06/2024 16:38
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
I posted up thread with some suggestions. The really obvious answers are cavapoo or bernadoodle but you said you don’t want a doodle. I asked why that was. The next suggestion is to ask how bad your allergies are and what you are willing to do. I am allergic to dogs but have basically always had them. I take daily medication: dogs not allowed in hedroom or on furniture; we use the highest end allergen filter hvac plus a Dyson air filter; and we vacuum at least weekly with a hela filter vacuum. If I cared more, I would require the kids to brush the dog outside daily and vacuum daily but were find with where we are. Dog allergies are totally manageable if you’re motivated to manage them. Some people get shots but I don’t think I need those.
People posting about your daughter’s anxiety are just being nasty and ignorant. I know lots of families where a child with anxiety has benefitted enormously from a dog. You know your kid and I assume you’re also working with a therapist.
Whats wrong with a doodle? (Not OP but trying to figure out what **we** are seeking)
Anonymous
09/06/2024 14:27
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:
People posting about your daughter’s anxiety are just being nasty and ignorant. I know lots of families where a child with anxiety has benefitted enormously from a dog. You know your kid and I assume you’re also working with a therapist.
Someone who doesn't even know basic information about how to find breed information isn't going to "enormously benefit" from a dog that isn't already trained as a therapy dog. They're going to feck up a puppy who will later be discarded "due to allergies" when the anxious kid takes priority over the dog.
Anonymous
09/06/2024 13:56
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
I posted up thread with some suggestions. The really obvious answers are cavapoo or bernadoodle but you said you don’t want a doodle. I asked why that was. The next suggestion is to ask how bad your allergies are and what you are willing to do. I am allergic to dogs but have basically always had them. I take daily medication: dogs not allowed in hedroom or on furniture; we use the highest end allergen filter hvac plus a Dyson air filter; and we vacuum at least weekly with a hela filter vacuum. If I cared more, I would require the kids to brush the dog outside daily and vacuum daily but were find with where we are. Dog allergies are totally manageable if you’re motivated to manage them. Some people get shots but I don’t think I need those.
People posting about your daughter’s anxiety are just being nasty and ignorant. I know lots of families where a child with anxiety has benefitted enormously from a dog. You know your kid and I assume you’re also working with a therapist.
Anonymous
09/06/2024 13:19
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Talk to people you know whose dogs you like and find out where they got their dogs.
This.
I am allergic to everything but not to my golden doodle.
Anonymous
09/06/2024 13:17
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
I disagree. If you’re willing to travel to NJ, there’s a good foster org called Who Rescued Who? They have a Facebook group you can join and they have dogs you could foster before committing. They seem to have a fair number of puppies and pure breeds too (rescues from mills, I assume )if that’s your thing. Gl!
They buy them! They buy them from “mills” at auctions and then sell them to you as “rescues” and everyone goes home happy. What do you think is happening, they’re storming the puppy mills with rifles and flying the puppies out by helicopter? Do you imagine that rescues buying dogs from breeders (or mills, whatever, but obviously the rescue can call whatever they want a “mill”) is doing anything except supporting those same breeders in the long run?
All that’s happening there is that the “adopt don’t shop” campaign has turned the market against “breeder” dogs and created a stigma, but not everyone wants a pit/hound shipped up from the South, but if you can have the same f-ing dog and tell your friends it’s a “rescue” then everyone is happy.
Here is a story about this from 2018, and yet the PP just waltzes about her life clicking on Facebook puppies and parroting the BS about “mill rescues” and never stopping to think twice.
The dog rescue people remind me of no one so much as the March for Life people. People love being sanctimonious when they don’t have to think hard about it.
Link, sorry https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/investigations/dog-auction-rescue-groups-donations/
Wow, one whole story from six years ago. That must mean all rescues are suspect!
You’re right, this New Jersey outfit with no website and whole litters of designer breed puppies for “adoption” is probably picking them up from alleys somewhere.
Anonymous
09/06/2024 09:36
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Op, back to your question. The AKC breed quiz is a good start. You could honestly even start with the random “what kind of dog” quizzes on the internet. Do two or three and you’ll likely see some similar answers.
Start there with reading more about those breeds. Find out if there is a breed-specific rescue near you. Reach out to a breeder or two and interview with them, see if you can come meet their dogs in their home.
For your anxious child, maybe start by offering to walk some neighbors’ well-behaved dogs of whatever breed to help your child get more exposure and comfort.
These are some pretty specific requirements so it could literally take a year or two to find the right answer. Good luck.
Start there with reading more about those breeds. Find out if there is a breed-specific rescue near you. Reach out to a breeder or two and interview with them, see if you can come meet their dogs in their home.
For your anxious child, maybe start by offering to walk some neighbors’ well-behaved dogs of whatever breed to help your child get more exposure and comfort.
These are some pretty specific requirements so it could literally take a year or two to find the right answer. Good luck.
Anonymous
09/06/2024 09:34
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
I disagree. If you’re willing to travel to NJ, there’s a good foster org called Who Rescued Who? They have a Facebook group you can join and they have dogs you could foster before committing. They seem to have a fair number of puppies and pure breeds too (rescues from mills, I assume )if that’s your thing. Gl!
They buy them! They buy them from “mills” at auctions and then sell them to you as “rescues” and everyone goes home happy. What do you think is happening, they’re storming the puppy mills with rifles and flying the puppies out by helicopter? Do you imagine that rescues buying dogs from breeders (or mills, whatever, but obviously the rescue can call whatever they want a “mill”) is doing anything except supporting those same breeders in the long run?
All that’s happening there is that the “adopt don’t shop” campaign has turned the market against “breeder” dogs and created a stigma, but not everyone wants a pit/hound shipped up from the South, but if you can have the same f-ing dog and tell your friends it’s a “rescue” then everyone is happy.
Here is a story about this from 2018, and yet the PP just waltzes about her life clicking on Facebook puppies and parroting the BS about “mill rescues” and never stopping to think twice.
The dog rescue people remind me of no one so much as the March for Life people. People love being sanctimonious when they don’t have to think hard about it.
Link, sorry https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/investigations/dog-auction-rescue-groups-donations/
Wow, one whole story from six years ago. That must mean all rescues are suspect!
Anonymous
09/06/2024 07:55
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
Okay, now I KNOW you shouldn't get a dog. Teach your children, and your grown-ass husband FFS, that wanting doesn't always equal getting.
Then work on your kid's anxieties instead of enabling his every wish against all logic and good sense.
And stop with the victimese. At this point, you're a victim of nothing more than your own foolishness.
Anonymous
09/06/2024 07:28
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
I disagree. If you’re willing to travel to NJ, there’s a good foster org called Who Rescued Who? They have a Facebook group you can join and they have dogs you could foster before committing. They seem to have a fair number of puppies and pure breeds too (rescues from mills, I assume )if that’s your thing. Gl!
They buy them! They buy them from “mills” at auctions and then sell them to you as “rescues” and everyone goes home happy. What do you think is happening, they’re storming the puppy mills with rifles and flying the puppies out by helicopter? Do you imagine that rescues buying dogs from breeders (or mills, whatever, but obviously the rescue can call whatever they want a “mill”) is doing anything except supporting those same breeders in the long run?
All that’s happening there is that the “adopt don’t shop” campaign has turned the market against “breeder” dogs and created a stigma, but not everyone wants a pit/hound shipped up from the South, but if you can have the same f-ing dog and tell your friends it’s a “rescue” then everyone is happy.
Here is a story about this from 2018, and yet the PP just walzes about her life clicking on Facebook puppies and parroting the BS about “mill rescues” and never stopping to think twice.
The dog rescue people remind me of no one so much as the March for Life people. People love being sanctimonious when they don’t have to think hard about it.
Link, sorry https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/investigations/dog-auction-rescue-groups-donations/
Anonymous
09/06/2024 07:28
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
I disagree. If you’re willing to travel to NJ, there’s a good foster org called Who Rescued Who? They have a Facebook group you can join and they have dogs you could foster before committing. They seem to have a fair number of puppies and pure breeds too (rescues from mills, I assume )if that’s your thing. Gl!
They buy them! They buy them from “mills” at auctions and then sell them to you as “rescues” and everyone goes home happy. What do you think is happening, they’re storming the puppy mills with rifles and flying the puppies out by helicopter? Do you imagine that rescues buying dogs from breeders (or mills, whatever, but obviously the rescue can call whatever they want a “mill”) is doing anything except supporting those same breeders in the long run?
All that’s happening there is that the “adopt don’t shop” campaign has turned the market against “breeder” dogs and created a stigma, but not everyone wants a pit/hound shipped up from the South, but if you can have the same f-ing dog and tell your friends it’s a “rescue” then everyone is happy.
Here is a story about this from 2018, and yet the PP just walzes about her life clicking on Facebook puppies and parroting the BS about “mill rescues” and never stopping to think twice.
The dog rescue people remind me of no one so much as the March for Life people. People love being sanctimonious when they don’t have to think hard about it.
Anonymous
09/06/2024 07:21
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
I disagree. If you’re willing to travel to NJ, there’s a good foster org called Who Rescued Who? They have a Facebook group you can join and they have dogs you could foster before committing. They seem to have a fair number of puppies and pure breeds too (rescues from mills, I assume )if that’s your thing. Gl!
They buy them! They buy them from “mills” at auctions and then sell them to you as “rescues” and everyone goes home happy. What do you think is happening, they’re storming the puppy mills with rifles and flying the puppies out by helicopter? Do you imagine that rescues buying dogs from breeders (or mills, whatever, but obviously the rescue can call whatever they want a “mill”) is doing anything except supporting those same breeders in the long run?
All that’s happening there is that the “adopt don’t shop” campaign has turned the market against “breeder” dogs and created a stigma, but not everyone wants a pit/hound shipped up from the South, but if you can have the same f-ing dog and tell your friends it’s a “rescue” then everyone is happy.
Anonymous
09/06/2024 07:15
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
On the other hand, if the OP buys a puppy and then gives it up for adoption because of her allergies, someone else can “adopt” the dog and dcum will cheer them for getting a dog the ethical way.
Yes, yes, you're victim. Poor you.
Every rescue (and I assume every "ethical breeder") asks whether everyone in the family wants a dog and whether there are any circumstances under which you'd have to return the dog. If you end up with a dog who triggers your allergies so much you can't be in the same room, would you keep the dog?
Anonymous
09/06/2024 07:13
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
I don’t understand why people feel it’s perfectly ethical to “adopt” a dog for a fee from a “rescue” system that is propping up not only backyard breeders but also puppy mill auctions, with little to no regard for what dogs are suitable for what jobs, and then turn around and tell people they’re bad for looking for a reputable breeder. And yes, I have adopted multiple dogs! I’m not opposed to adopting dogs. It’s the poorly considered, reflexive orthodoxy I find so objectionable. There’s not even an attempt at envisioning a long term solution and I’m starting to think they don’t want one.
OP I think you make your best effort on finding an ethical breeder and proceed. I don’t understand how these people think the “rescue” puppies appear on earth. They’re all bred somehow.
OP I think you make your best effort on finding an ethical breeder and proceed. I don’t understand how these people think the “rescue” puppies appear on earth. They’re all bred somehow.
Anonymous
09/06/2024 06:58
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
Yes, yes, you're victim. Poor you.
Every rescue (and I assume every "ethical breeder") asks whether everyone in the family wants a dog and whether there are any circumstances under which you'd have to return the dog. If you end up with a dog who triggers your allergies so much you can't be in the same room, would you keep the dog?
Anonymous
09/05/2024 19:22
Subject: How do I research the right dog breeds and breeders for our family? Where to start?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your ideal dog does not exist
+1 These threads are so strange. I'm allergic to dogs and my kid is terrified of them - help me pick a dog!
For what it's worth, my kid is NOT terrified of dogs, just a highly anxious personality that would not pair well with an anxious dog. But I guess nobody thinks my husband and children, who really want a dog, should get one because I"m allergic, so oh well!
I disagree. If you’re willing to travel to NJ, there’s a good foster org called Who Rescued Who? They have a Facebook group you can join and they have dogs you could foster before committing. They seem to have a fair number of puppies and pure breeds too (rescues from mills, I assume )if that’s your thing. Gl!