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Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

not necessarily. Private school is going to correlate with the ability to pay more than with the need for hand holding. Some times the two overlap, but not always

What exactly is handholding in this context?

Advisors who know you exist as a freshman, teachers expected to know a students name, responsive student life department especially with respect to housing.... The SLAC I went to gave professors large budgets to host freshmen for group dinners and my advisor met with me multiple times and pushed me towards certain clubs all of which were lavishly funded. Basically they did everything possible to bring freshman into the school community. My spouse went to Cal. They joke that for the first two years they doubt that any school employee knew their name or cared that they existed

Would schools like Amherst; Middlebury; Bard; Lehigh; Colgate; Wake; Richmond fall into this category?

Anonymous wrote:My DS (from private HS) attends a small (not super competitive LAC). It has a well developed freshman experience and your student's advisor is the teacher of a freshman seminar your kid takes.

Yesterday during campus move in, my DS ran into two professors that know his name and that he was excited to see.

These schools exist - look for good freshman experience, residential housing that is integrated into the academic program, small classes where you can know your professor and good advising.

Some suggestions might be Union College in NY, University of Denver, Elon.

on the other hand, my son's friend is a freshman at a big flagship out of state - the freshman had to move in a week early and there are no required activities - so the kid is basically sitting around with nothing to do. He hasn't made friends yet and it's the weekend and no classes until Monday. That seems really hard.

Like Rice?
Are all SLACs (mostly) like this?

My DS (from private HS) attends a small (not super competitive LAC). It has a well developed freshman experience and your student's advisor is the teacher of a freshman seminar your kid takes.

Yesterday during campus move in, my DS ran into two professors that know his name and that he was excited to see.

These schools exist - look for good freshman experience, residential housing that is integrated into the academic program, small classes where you can know your professor and good advising.

Some suggestions might be Union College in NY, University of Denver, Elon.

on the other hand, my son's friend is a freshman at a big flagship out of state - the freshman had to move in a week early and there are no required activities - so the kid is basically sitting around with nothing to do. He hasn't made friends yet and it's the weekend and no classes until Monday. That seems really hard.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

not necessarily. Private school is going to correlate with the ability to pay more than with the need for hand holding. Some times the two overlap, but not always

What exactly is handholding in this context?

Advisors who know you exist as a freshman, teachers expected to know a students name, responsive student life department especially with respect to housing.... The SLAC I went to gave professors large budgets to host freshmen for group dinners and my advisor met with me multiple times and pushed me towards certain clubs all of which were lavishly funded. Basically they did everything possible to bring freshman into the school community. My spouse went to Cal. They joke that for the first two years they doubt that any school employee knew their name or cared that they existed

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Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

I wouldn't assume that at all. If you want schools that have robust/undergrad focused services, ask about that directly. Why use a proxy when you don't need to?

Np. Ask what to who?
We are also looking at private colleges, some small and some medium sized, and want an undergrad focused experience where the school spends its time and resources on undergrads starting with freshman year.
But I don’t know what to ask? Or who to ask?

When you visit, ask about the advising system, how accessible is tutoring and the writing center, the wait list for therapy, and what sort of safety net there is -- who notices, how, and when if a student is struggling.

But all schools will require students to be proactive in requesting help.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

not necessarily. Private school is going to correlate with the ability to pay more than with the need for hand holding. Some times the two overlap, but not always

What exactly is handholding in this context?

Some of these school will have a residence hall advisor that takes parent calls.
They might have regular check-ins with students to make sure they are staying on top of their classes and getting them tutors if they seem to be struggling.
If the student gets a bad grade they talk to them about it and how to avoid bad grades going forward.
It's almost more than they would get at a lot of homes.

We've been looking for a small, handholding school for my autistic child and haven't seen anything like that. Frankly, it sounds excessive and inappropriate for neurotypical college students. If your child truly needs that level of support, we're looking at Mansfield Hall, which is a "superdorm" for students attending a variety of schools and that provides that level of oversight. https://mansfieldhall.org/

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Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

not necessarily. Private school is going to correlate with the ability to pay more than with the need for hand holding. Some times the two overlap, but not always

What exactly is handholding in this context?

Some of these school will have a residence hall advisor that takes parent calls.
They might have regular check-ins with students to make sure they are staying on top of their classes and getting them tutors if they seem to be struggling.
If the student gets a bad grade they talk to them about it and how to avoid bad grades going forward.
It's almost more than they would get at a lot of homes.

PP, which schools offer what you just described?

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Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

not necessarily. Private school is going to correlate with the ability to pay more than with the need for hand holding. Some times the two overlap, but not always

What exactly is handholding in this context?

Some of these school will have a residence hall advisor that takes parent calls.
They might have regular check-ins with students to make sure they are staying on top of their classes and getting them tutors if they seem to be struggling.
If the student gets a bad grade they talk to them about it and how to avoid bad grades going forward.
It's almost more than they would get at a lot of homes.

Which schools are these? They sound great tbh.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

not necessarily. Private school is going to correlate with the ability to pay more than with the need for hand holding. Some times the two overlap, but not always

What exactly is handholding in this context?

Some of these school will have a residence hall advisor that takes parent calls.
They might have regular check-ins with students to make sure they are staying on top of their classes and getting them tutors if they seem to be struggling.
If the student gets a bad grade they talk to them about it and how to avoid bad grades going forward.
It's almost more than they would get at a lot of homes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

I wouldn't assume that at all. If you want schools that have robust/undergrad focused services, ask about that directly. Why use a proxy when you don't need to?

Np. Ask what to who?
We are also looking at private colleges, some small and some medium sized, and want an undergrad focused experience where the school spends its time and resources on undergrads starting with freshman year.
But I don’t know what to ask? Or who to ask?

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Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

I wouldn't assume that at all. If you want schools that have robust/undergrad focused services, ask about that directly. Why use a proxy when you don't need to?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

not necessarily. Private school is going to correlate with the ability to pay more than with the need for hand holding. Some times the two overlap, but not always

What exactly is handholding in this context?

We were surprised when the Yale tour guide proudly stated that 60% of kids came feom public schools. It sounded so low to me and was definitely a negative in my mind (yes, yes, I understand my kid won’t get in anyway).

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Anonymous wrote:This is all super helpful.

The more I read, think and crunch the data/fees, I am inclined not to have my child apply / enroll at large public Flagships. For the out-of-state tuition prices, I just don’t think it’s worth it - with the limited amount of undergrad focused resources. The value isn’t there for me.

If you think your kid needs a bit more handholding, undergrad resources, student-centric staff, administration, and programming, are the schools listed above the ones we should be focusing on? Are there any others? How do we figure out the “spend” per undergraduate student?

Profile: private school senior girl, full pay, non-DMV. Humanities major, top GPA stats/rigor + high test scores. Looking for social, friendly schools with attention from faculty.

Any and all advice appreciated.

I think you're asking two separate things. Your first question was schools that take a disproportionate number of students from private high schools. Your second question was schools that offer more support/hand holding/advising. The schools in both those lists might overlap, but it isn't the same thing.

I could be wrong but I’d assume schools with larger % of private HS kids would offer more of these handholding, robust freshman/undergrad focused services? That these types of students would gravitate towards these schools?

Is that wrong?

not necessarily. Private school is going to correlate with the ability to pay more than with the need for hand holding. Some times the two overlap, but not always

Anonymous wrote:Where do you find the data on this?

Schools used to percent parochial, private, charter, public, homeschooled, but most don’t anymore. I’d say a good way nowadays is to look at the sports team roster pages. I think athletes are more likely to have attended private school, but you can see the differentiation between schools. I wouldn’t be surprised if Middlebury is 50% non-parochial private schools.