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Anonymous wrote:Pomona and Swarthmore are the leaders in LAC diversity! Anyone saying otherwise is steering you in the wrong direction.

Swarthmore.. dont think so

You can learn about them here: https://www.swarthmore.edu/news-events/swarthmore-admits-969-to-class-2027. Ignorance isn't an excuse for spreading wrong ideas.

Anonymous wrote:Pomona and Swarthmore are the leaders in LAC diversity! Anyone saying otherwise is steering you in the wrong direction.

Swarthmore.. dont think so

Pomona and Swarthmore are the leaders in LAC diversity! Anyone saying otherwise is steering you in the wrong direction.

Anonymous wrote:Grinnell diverse and eclectic, 18% international (50 countries) and 26% demistic students of color.

Open curriculium, intellectual and very liberal in small Iowa town that is hard to get to. A school you really have to visit.

Grinnell is also more socioeconomically diverse than many other SLACs. Its need-blindness and merit aid draw talented students from poorer backgrounds. The percentage of international students varies yearly but hovers around 20%.

^ In full agreement with this poster. Most of those schools are terrible and attract a very large bottom 20%, because they are predatory and looking to trap young broke people into debt. The top liberal arts colleges may not be 100% students of disadvantaged backgrounds, but they support low income students to the best and get them to excel.

Anonymous wrote:Percentages of Pell Grant recipients:

46% Morehouse
39% Agnes Scott, Guilford
38% Hampshire
37% Spelman
32% Whittier
30% Beloit, Drew, Knox
29% Cornell College, Juniata
28% Goucher, Washington & Jefferson
27% Allegheny
26% Earlham
25% Kalamazoo, Ohio Wesleyan, St. John's (NM), Susquehanna
24% Gustavus Adolphus, Hendrix, Hobart and William Smith
23% Bard
22% Amherst, Augustana, Swarthmore, Washington College, Willamette
21% Centre, Eckerd, Gettysburg, Lawrence, Mt. Holyoke, Muhlenberg, St. Lawrence, St. Olaf, Mary Washington, Wheaton (IL), Wheaton (MA)


https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges/economic-diversity

Let's take from your top 5...
Morehouse is an HBCU all male school, so a majority of applicants will not feel comfortable barging into a pro-black male space, cause they're seeking "economic diversity"
Agnes Scott is a women's college, so half the students can't apply
Guilford has massive financial instability, accredidation issues, has had to cut programs, has a history of racism and had to apologize last year for racist remarks by their students against Virginia State University, and has a dismal graduation rate (hint: this keys into lack of support for those bottom 20% students).
Hampshire doesn't even have majors, has a dismal endowment, and has to rely extensively on the five college consortium and ken burns to stay alive.
Spelman is an HBCU for Women and the sister school of Morehouse.

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Anonymous wrote:What are some of the LACs that attracts diverse students? And of those what are some that are more intellectually inclined?

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Define diversity. Do you mean race, do you mean a certain race? Are you talking about economic diversity? Geographic?

What is "certain race" diversity?
Also this shuffles the same 4 or 5 LACs no matter which one you apply.

Diversity can mean all races or diversity can decides that Asians aren't actually part of a diverse campus (i.e. the type that got Harvard sued)

Name a campus that is diverse that doesn't have Asian Americans as the highest percentage of students of color. I guess this makes sense if you avoid the big Asian population at Harvard too...

Drop out of the top colleges and you get there. If you want a good mix or poor middle class and rich and a good mix of all races, you're dropping way further down the list than schools DCUM finds acceptable

Most colleges outside of the top colleges are non competitive. You're asking for elite schools that accept everybody...

OP said LAC not SLAC

The SLAC's are still economically, racially, and geographically most diverse...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/williams-college

that doesn't look very economically diverse to me

No one mentioned Williams...

Someone mentioned Wellesley, almost as twice as many students from the top 1% as bottom 20%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/wellesley-college

Amherst, over 4 times as many kids from the top 1% as bottom 20

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/amherst-college

You’re picking and choosing with this data. The Wellesley stats (if read correctly) show that it has the second highest percentage of students in the bottoms 20%. Also keep in mind the stats where it is 2 times as many is 11% to 6.5%. Not that huge.

top 1%, 11%. Top 20% 59%. Bottom 20%, 6.5%. The majority of students are wealthy with a smattering of poor kids thrown in

I guess you think $140k is substantial f u money, because that's the top 20% income. 41% of students making under that pretty normal amount for a household of two parents making a little above the median us income is not outrageous.

It's top 20%. Reasonable people would consider top 20% to be better off than 80% of the population.

Reasonable people understand the barriers that elite colleges have been recently overcoming in order to make their student body more diverse.

Anonymous wrote:Percentages of Pell Grant recipients:

46% Morehouse
39% Agnes Scott, Guilford
38% Hampshire
37% Spelman
32% Whittier
30% Beloit, Drew, Knox
29% Cornell College, Juniata
28% Goucher, Washington & Jefferson
27% Allegheny
26% Earlham
25% Kalamazoo, Ohio Wesleyan, St. John's (NM), Susquehanna
24% Gustavus Adolphus, Hendrix, Hobart and William Smith
23% Bard
22% Amherst, Augustana, Swarthmore, Washington College, Willamette
21% Centre, Eckerd, Gettysburg, Lawrence, Mt. Holyoke, Muhlenberg, St. Lawrence, St. Olaf, Mary Washington, Wheaton (IL), Wheaton (MA)


https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges/economic-diversity

@OP guess it's time to go to an HBCU (which is not racially diverse), because some online forum poster is obsessed with poor kids. Mind you that at Morehouse they will struggle to pay their way through college, while at the previous liberal arts colleges listed, the students receive money, support, and affinity spaces to productively get through college like everyone else!

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Anonymous wrote:What are some of the LACs that attracts diverse students? And of those what are some that are more intellectually inclined?

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Define diversity. Do you mean race, do you mean a certain race? Are you talking about economic diversity? Geographic?

What is "certain race" diversity?
Also this shuffles the same 4 or 5 LACs no matter which one you apply.

Diversity can mean all races or diversity can decides that Asians aren't actually part of a diverse campus (i.e. the type that got Harvard sued)

Name a campus that is diverse that doesn't have Asian Americans as the highest percentage of students of color. I guess this makes sense if you avoid the big Asian population at Harvard too...

Drop out of the top colleges and you get there. If you want a good mix or poor middle class and rich and a good mix of all races, you're dropping way further down the list than schools DCUM finds acceptable

Most colleges outside of the top colleges are non competitive. You're asking for elite schools that accept everybody...

OP said LAC not SLAC

The SLAC's are still economically, racially, and geographically most diverse...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/williams-college

that doesn't look very economically diverse to me

No one mentioned Williams...

Someone mentioned Wellesley, almost as twice as many students from the top 1% as bottom 20%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/wellesley-college

Amherst, over 4 times as many kids from the top 1% as bottom 20

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/amherst-college

You’re picking and choosing with this data. The Wellesley stats (if read correctly) show that it has the second highest percentage of students in the bottoms 20%. Also keep in mind the stats where it is 2 times as many is 11% to 6.5%. Not that huge.

top 1%, 11%. Top 20% 59%. Bottom 20%, 6.5%. The majority of students are wealthy with a smattering of poor kids thrown in

I guess you think $140k is substantial f u money, because that's the top 20% income. 41% of students making under that pretty normal amount for a household of two parents making a little above the median us income is not outrageous.

It's top 20%. Reasonable people would consider top 20% to be better off than 80% of the population.

yes, and reasonable people also don't think making 70k as an individual is outrageous or makes you in some elite social class.

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Anonymous wrote:What are some of the LACs that attracts diverse students? And of those what are some that are more intellectually inclined?

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Define diversity. Do you mean race, do you mean a certain race? Are you talking about economic diversity? Geographic?

What is "certain race" diversity?
Also this shuffles the same 4 or 5 LACs no matter which one you apply.

Diversity can mean all races or diversity can decides that Asians aren't actually part of a diverse campus (i.e. the type that got Harvard sued)

Name a campus that is diverse that doesn't have Asian Americans as the highest percentage of students of color. I guess this makes sense if you avoid the big Asian population at Harvard too...

Drop out of the top colleges and you get there. If you want a good mix or poor middle class and rich and a good mix of all races, you're dropping way further down the list than schools DCUM finds acceptable

Most colleges outside of the top colleges are non competitive. You're asking for elite schools that accept everybody...

OP said LAC not SLAC

The SLAC's are still economically, racially, and geographically most diverse...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/williams-college

that doesn't look very economically diverse to me

No one mentioned Williams...

Someone mentioned Wellesley, almost as twice as many students from the top 1% as bottom 20%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/wellesley-college

Amherst, over 4 times as many kids from the top 1% as bottom 20

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/amherst-college

You’re picking and choosing with this data. The Wellesley stats (if read correctly) show that it has the second highest percentage of students in the bottoms 20%. Also keep in mind the stats where it is 2 times as many is 11% to 6.5%. Not that huge.

top 1%, 11%. Top 20% 59%. Bottom 20%, 6.5%. The majority of students are wealthy with a smattering of poor kids thrown in

I guess you think $140k is substantial f u money, because that's the top 20% income. 41% of students making under that pretty normal amount for a household of two parents making a little above the median us income is not outrageous.

It's top 20%. Reasonable people would consider top 20% to be better off than 80% of the population.

Percentages of Pell Grant recipients:

46% Morehouse
39% Agnes Scott, Guilford
38% Hampshire
37% Spelman
32% Whittier
30% Beloit, Drew, Knox
29% Cornell College, Juniata
28% Goucher, Washington & Jefferson
27% Allegheny
26% Earlham
25% Kalamazoo, Ohio Wesleyan, St. John's (NM), Susquehanna
24% Gustavus Adolphus, Hendrix, Hobart and William Smith
23% Bard
22% Amherst, Augustana, Swarthmore, Washington College, Willamette
21% Centre, Eckerd, Gettysburg, Lawrence, Mt. Holyoke, Muhlenberg, St. Lawrence, St. Olaf, Mary Washington, Wheaton (IL), Wheaton (MA)


https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges/economic-diversity

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Anonymous wrote:What are some of the LACs that attracts diverse students? And of those what are some that are more intellectually inclined?

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Define diversity. Do you mean race, do you mean a certain race? Are you talking about economic diversity? Geographic?

What is "certain race" diversity?
Also this shuffles the same 4 or 5 LACs no matter which one you apply.

Diversity can mean all races or diversity can decides that Asians aren't actually part of a diverse campus (i.e. the type that got Harvard sued)

Name a campus that is diverse that doesn't have Asian Americans as the highest percentage of students of color. I guess this makes sense if you avoid the big Asian population at Harvard too...

Drop out of the top colleges and you get there. If you want a good mix or poor middle class and rich and a good mix of all races, you're dropping way further down the list than schools DCUM finds acceptable

Most colleges outside of the top colleges are non competitive. You're asking for elite schools that accept everybody...

OP said LAC not SLAC

The SLAC's are still economically, racially, and geographically most diverse...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/williams-college

that doesn't look very economically diverse to me

No one mentioned Williams...

Someone mentioned Wellesley, almost as twice as many students from the top 1% as bottom 20%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/wellesley-college

Amherst, over 4 times as many kids from the top 1% as bottom 20

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/amherst-college

You’re picking and choosing with this data. The Wellesley stats (if read correctly) show that it has the second highest percentage of students in the bottoms 20%. Also keep in mind the stats where it is 2 times as many is 11% to 6.5%. Not that huge.

top 1%, 11%. Top 20% 59%. Bottom 20%, 6.5%. The majority of students are wealthy with a smattering of poor kids thrown in

I guess you think $140k is substantial f u money, because that's the top 20% income. 41% of students making under that pretty normal amount for a household of two parents making a little above the median us income is not outrageous.

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Anonymous wrote:What are some of the LACs that attracts diverse students? And of those what are some that are more intellectually inclined?

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Define diversity. Do you mean race, do you mean a certain race? Are you talking about economic diversity? Geographic?

What is "certain race" diversity?
Also this shuffles the same 4 or 5 LACs no matter which one you apply.

Diversity can mean all races or diversity can decides that Asians aren't actually part of a diverse campus (i.e. the type that got Harvard sued)

Name a campus that is diverse that doesn't have Asian Americans as the highest percentage of students of color. I guess this makes sense if you avoid the big Asian population at Harvard too...

Drop out of the top colleges and you get there. If you want a good mix or poor middle class and rich and a good mix of all races, you're dropping way further down the list than schools DCUM finds acceptable

Most colleges outside of the top colleges are non competitive. You're asking for elite schools that accept everybody...

OP said LAC not SLAC

The SLAC's are still economically, racially, and geographically most diverse...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/williams-college

that doesn't look very economically diverse to me

No one mentioned Williams...

Someone mentioned Wellesley, almost as twice as many students from the top 1% as bottom 20%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/wellesley-college

Amherst, over 4 times as many kids from the top 1% as bottom 20

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/amherst-college

You’re picking and choosing with this data. The Wellesley stats (if read correctly) show that it has the second highest percentage of students in the bottoms 20%. Also keep in mind the stats where it is 2 times as many is 11% to 6.5%. Not that huge.

top 1%, 11%. Top 20% 59%. Bottom 20%, 6.5%. The majority of students are wealthy with a smattering of poor kids thrown in

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Anonymous wrote:What are some of the LACs that attracts diverse students? And of those what are some that are more intellectually inclined?

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Define diversity. Do you mean race, do you mean a certain race? Are you talking about economic diversity? Geographic?

What is "certain race" diversity?
Also this shuffles the same 4 or 5 LACs no matter which one you apply.

Diversity can mean all races or diversity can decides that Asians aren't actually part of a diverse campus (i.e. the type that got Harvard sued)

Name a campus that is diverse that doesn't have Asian Americans as the highest percentage of students of color. I guess this makes sense if you avoid the big Asian population at Harvard too...

Drop out of the top colleges and you get there. If you want a good mix or poor middle class and rich and a good mix of all races, you're dropping way further down the list than schools DCUM finds acceptable

Most colleges outside of the top colleges are non competitive. You're asking for elite schools that accept everybody...

OP said LAC not SLAC

The SLAC's are still economically, racially, and geographically most diverse...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/williams-college

that doesn't look very economically diverse to me

No one mentioned Williams...

Someone mentioned Wellesley, almost as twice as many students from the top 1% as bottom 20%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/wellesley-college

Amherst, over 4 times as many kids from the top 1% as bottom 20

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/amherst-college

I do like that you conveniently ignore the part of this data that shows Wellesley as 2nd for its share of students in the bottom 5th. Pretty significant stat to ignore. Not every college is the early rendition of Eton College and only houses low income students-in fact, that is the OPPOSITE of economic diversity.

Second out of that cohort of 65 elite schools. My point is that elite and economically diverse are mutually exclusive. OP asked about diverse, people responded with elite schools with a smattering of carefully curated diversity

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Anonymous wrote:What are some of the LACs that attracts diverse students? And of those what are some that are more intellectually inclined?

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Define diversity. Do you mean race, do you mean a certain race? Are you talking about economic diversity? Geographic?

What is "certain race" diversity?
Also this shuffles the same 4 or 5 LACs no matter which one you apply.

Diversity can mean all races or diversity can decides that Asians aren't actually part of a diverse campus (i.e. the type that got Harvard sued)

Name a campus that is diverse that doesn't have Asian Americans as the highest percentage of students of color. I guess this makes sense if you avoid the big Asian population at Harvard too...

Drop out of the top colleges and you get there. If you want a good mix or poor middle class and rich and a good mix of all races, you're dropping way further down the list than schools DCUM finds acceptable

Most colleges outside of the top colleges are non competitive. You're asking for elite schools that accept everybody...

OP said LAC not SLAC

The SLAC's are still economically, racially, and geographically most diverse...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/williams-college

that doesn't look very economically diverse to me

No one mentioned Williams...

Someone mentioned Wellesley, almost as twice as many students from the top 1% as bottom 20%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/wellesley-college

Amherst, over 4 times as many kids from the top 1% as bottom 20

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/amherst-college

You’re picking and choosing with this data. The Wellesley stats (if read correctly) show that it has the second highest percentage of students in the bottoms 20%. Also keep in mind the stats where it is 2 times as many is 11% to 6.5%. Not that huge.