Anonymous
08/08/2024 20:03
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
STEM is pretty much a meaningless buzzword. As is its weird cousin, STEAM.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 12:21
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
Anonymous wrote:Nursing is definitely STEM and I think Kinesiology may be too? Thought it was very Biology heavy. In my opinion, if a major requires knowledge of calculus or organic chemistry, it’s STEM.
Nursing majors are among the worst performers on the Quantitative section of the GRE.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 01:35
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
Anonymous wrote:STEM should really be S'TEM. S' = Physics & Chemistry, and E/T includes Computer Science depending on its flavor. The rest of the domains that fall under S (e.g. Biology) are really people reaching to be part of the STEM umbrella.
Why is it "reaching" to include biology under the science banner?
Anonymous
08/08/2024 01:16
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
Nursing is definitely STEM and I think Kinesiology may be too? Thought it was very Biology heavy. In my opinion, if a major requires knowledge of calculus or organic chemistry, it’s STEM.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 01:11
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
So is medicine, yet it needs its own separate letter in the acronym - it can't get in on the basis of the S coursework hurdles.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We wouldn't have tradespeople either. That doesn't mean carpentry should fall under STEMAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nursing is not medicine, which is why nurses that kill patients can't be sued for medical malpractice - they aren't practicing medicine.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people with majors such as kinesiology, nursing, psychology etc. want to be considered STEM? What makes STEM "status" superior?
Nursing legitimately is STEM, in my view.
The others claim to be STEM simply as marketing — because they are trying to attract more students to their department…
What is wrong with you? If you only have people who can't do math, can't understand biology, can't work with computers, you will have no nurses. The STEM push was designed to alleviate exactly these scenarios.
To a tiny extent. Is everything a slippery slope with you? Nursing is a college degree with coursework hurdles that are solidly STEM.
Anonymous
08/07/2024 21:19
Subject: Re:Claiming the "STEM" label
Anonymous
08/07/2024 14:21
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people with majors such as kinesiology, nursing, psychology etc. want to be considered STEM? What makes STEM "status" superior?
Nursing legitimately is STEM, in my view.
The others claim to be STEM simply as marketing — because they are trying to attract more students to their department…
Nursing is not traditionally considered part of STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics) fields. However, nursing does incorporate many elements of STEM, such as biology, chemistry, and technology, especially with the increasing use of medical technology and data analysis in healthcare.
It is more commonly categorized under healthcare or medical fields rather than strict STEM disciplines.
Anonymous
08/07/2024 14:10
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
Anonymous wrote:We wouldn't have tradespeople either. That doesn't mean carpentry should fall under STEMAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nursing is not medicine, which is why nurses that kill patients can't be sued for medical malpractice - they aren't practicing medicine.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people with majors such as kinesiology, nursing, psychology etc. want to be considered STEM? What makes STEM "status" superior?
Nursing legitimately is STEM, in my view.
The others claim to be STEM simply as marketing — because they are trying to attract more students to their department…
What is wrong with you? If you only have people who can't do math, can't understand biology, can't work with computers, you will have no nurses. The STEM push was designed to alleviate exactly these scenarios.
To a tiny extent. Is everything a slippery slope with you? Nursing is a college degree with coursework hurdles that are solidly STEM.
Anonymous
08/07/2024 13:45
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
Anonymous wrote:The gatekeeping around the STEM label is pretty funny. At one end you have engineers who not only want to exclude the nurses, but even the biologists.
At the other end, you have nursing, kinesiology and psychology majors insisting that their majors are STEM too.
But at the end of the day the extremely broad definition makes STEM a fundamentally meaningless concept. What physics or pure math have in common with nursing?
History and literature isn't STEM
Anonymous
08/07/2024 13:43
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
Anonymous wrote:Nursing is not medicine, which is why nurses that kill patients can't be sued for medical malpractice - they aren't practicing medicine.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people with majors such as kinesiology, nursing, psychology etc. want to be considered STEM? What makes STEM "status" superior?
Nursing legitimately is STEM, in my view.
The others claim to be STEM simply as marketing — because they are trying to attract more students to their department…
How do you get through the day without choking on your own saliva?
Anonymous
08/07/2024 13:32
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
We wouldn't have tradespeople either. That doesn't mean carpentry should fall under STEMAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nursing is not medicine, which is why nurses that kill patients can't be sued for medical malpractice - they aren't practicing medicine.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people with majors such as kinesiology, nursing, psychology etc. want to be considered STEM? What makes STEM "status" superior?
Nursing legitimately is STEM, in my view.
The others claim to be STEM simply as marketing — because they are trying to attract more students to their department…
What is wrong with you? If you only have people who can't do math, can't understand biology, can't work with computers, you will have no nurses. The STEM push was designed to alleviate exactly these scenarios.
Anonymous
08/07/2024 13:29
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
Anonymous wrote:Nursing is not medicine, which is why nurses that kill patients can't be sued for medical malpractice - they aren't practicing medicine.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people with majors such as kinesiology, nursing, psychology etc. want to be considered STEM? What makes STEM "status" superior?
Nursing legitimately is STEM, in my view.
The others claim to be STEM simply as marketing — because they are trying to attract more students to their department…
What is wrong with you? If you only have people who can't do math, can't understand biology, can't work with computers, you will have no nurses. The STEM push was designed to alleviate exactly these scenarios.
Anonymous
08/07/2024 13:02
Subject: Claiming the "STEM" label
Nursing is not medicine, which is why nurses that kill patients can't be sued for medical malpractice - they aren't practicing medicine.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people with majors such as kinesiology, nursing, psychology etc. want to be considered STEM? What makes STEM "status" superior?
Nursing legitimately is STEM, in my view.
The others claim to be STEM simply as marketing — because they are trying to attract more students to their department…