Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Olympic villages are never supremely comfortable, OP. But sure, ignore all the great innovations Paris has made to the Olympics and focus on the bad. Nothing can stop you from seeing the glass completely empty!
DP. What innovations they did?
“What innovations they did?”
I keep seeing this bizarre sentence construction on this website.
Make it stop.
Anonymous wrote:The Paris Olympic Village is a complete disaster. No AC, crappy food, and terrible beds? Seriously? Athletes are saying it’s unbearable, and I’m ashamed this is how they’re being treated.
Reports show athletes dealing with no air conditioning in the heat, awful food options, and beds that are so uncomfortable they can’t get a good night's sleep. This is supposed to be the peak of sports, and instead, it’s a nightmare.
When the US hosts the Olympics, we need to show everyone how it’s done right. Comfortable living spaces, great food, and all the necessary amenities. France’s mess should be a lesson on what NOT to do. We can and must do better.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ac was a mistake. They were trying to set an energy efficiency positive example by pumping groundwater through the floors like a radiant system. They said it was supposed to keep rooms 10 degrees below ambient. But they didn’t use it as a heat sink for refrigeration systems like normal geothermal heat pump systems. It wouldn’t have used that much more electricity. They could’ve done that and kept the athletes comfortable, while still bragging about the green’ness of it. And it would have been an example people all over the world could have followed. Instead it’s a black eye.
What do you mean by “they didn’t use it as a heat sink”?
Normal geothermal systems (like the service vans you see on the beltway) use a water loop underground where the temps are about 55 deg year round. The ground either cools or heat the water, depending on the season. That water is then run through a heat exchanger on the pumps refrigeration system. It’s way more efficient than using 95 def air in summer and 25 degree air in winter like a normal heat pump does.
The French decided to skip the refrigeration system part and only use the 55 deg water in a bid to be super dooper green. on top of it they put in the flooring instead of normal air handlers. It’s perplexing and it actually cost them more in electricity because all the athletes brought in portable air conditioners.
so the french are dumb with science as well wow
They knew the science. They made a decision that it was worth it for being people to uncomfortable in rooms 10 def below ambient to save a little bit more electricity. What’s strange is most of their electricity is from nuclear, so it has almost no global warming effect.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ac was a mistake. They were trying to set an energy efficiency positive example by pumping groundwater through the floors like a radiant system. They said it was supposed to keep rooms 10 degrees below ambient. But they didn’t use it as a heat sink for refrigeration systems like normal geothermal heat pump systems. It wouldn’t have used that much more electricity. They could’ve done that and kept the athletes comfortable, while still bragging about the green’ness of it. And it would have been an example people all over the world could have followed. Instead it’s a black eye.
What do you mean by “they didn’t use it as a heat sink”?
Normal geothermal systems (like the service vans you see on the beltway) use a water loop underground where the temps are about 55 deg year round. The ground either cools or heat the water, depending on the season. That water is then run through a heat exchanger on the pumps refrigeration system. It’s way more efficient than using 95 def air in summer and 25 degree air in winter like a normal heat pump does.
The French decided to skip the refrigeration system part and only use the 55 deg water in a bid to be super dooper green. on top of it they put in the flooring instead of normal air handlers. It’s perplexing and it actually cost them more in electricity because all the athletes brought in portable air conditioners.
so the french are dumb with science as well wow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ac was a mistake. They were trying to set an energy efficiency positive example by pumping groundwater through the floors like a radiant system. They said it was supposed to keep rooms 10 degrees below ambient. But they didn’t use it as a heat sink for refrigeration systems like normal geothermal heat pump systems. It wouldn’t have used that much more electricity. They could’ve done that and kept the athletes comfortable, while still bragging about the green’ness of it. And it would have been an example people all over the world could have followed. Instead it’s a black eye.
What do you mean by “they didn’t use it as a heat sink”?
Normal geothermal systems (like the service vans you see on the beltway) use a water loop underground where the temps are about 55 deg year round. The ground either cools or heat the water, depending on the season. That water is then run through a heat exchanger on the pumps refrigeration system. It’s way more efficient than using 95 def air in summer and 25 degree air in winter like a normal heat pump does.
The French decided to skip the refrigeration system part and only use the 55 deg water in a bid to be super dooper green. on top of it they put in the flooring instead of normal air handlers. It’s perplexing and it actually cost them more in electricity because all the athletes brought in portable air conditioners.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ac was a mistake. They were trying to set an energy efficiency positive example by pumping groundwater through the floors like a radiant system. They said it was supposed to keep rooms 10 degrees below ambient. But they didn’t use it as a heat sink for refrigeration systems like normal geothermal heat pump systems. It wouldn’t have used that much more electricity. They could’ve done that and kept the athletes comfortable, while still bragging about the green’ness of it. And it would have been an example people all over the world could have followed. Instead it’s a black eye.
What do you mean by “they didn’t use it as a heat sink”?
Anonymous wrote:The ac was a mistake. They were trying to set an energy efficiency positive example by pumping groundwater through the floors like a radiant system. They said it was supposed to keep rooms 10 degrees below ambient. But they didn’t use it as a heat sink for refrigeration systems like normal geothermal heat pump systems. It wouldn’t have used that much more electricity. They could’ve done that and kept the athletes comfortable, while still bragging about the green’ness of it. And it would have been an example people all over the world could have followed. Instead it’s a black eye.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Olympic villages are never supremely comfortable, OP. But sure, ignore all the great innovations Paris has made to the Olympics and focus on the bad. Nothing can stop you from seeing the glass completely empty!
DP. What innovations they did?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ac was a mistake. They were trying to set an energy efficiency positive example by pumping groundwater through the floors like a radiant system. They said it was supposed to keep rooms 10 degrees below ambient. But they didn’t use it as a heat sink for refrigeration systems like normal geothermal heat pump systems. It wouldn’t have used that much more electricity. They could’ve done that and kept the athletes comfortable, while still bragging about the green’ness of it. And it would have been an example people all over the world could have followed. Instead it’s a black eye.
Agree with this.
While I agree with the other PP about some innovative things Paris has incorporated for the games, the planning on swimming events in the Seine was a gamble- I didn’t realize there was no backup plan other than eliminating the swimming leg entirely! Although the water was supposedly “safe” for the triathlon yesterday, you wonder if they pushed it and how many athletes will end up sick….
Anonymous wrote:The ac was a mistake. They were trying to set an energy efficiency positive example by pumping groundwater through the floors like a radiant system. They said it was supposed to keep rooms 10 degrees below ambient. But they didn’t use it as a heat sink for refrigeration systems like normal geothermal heat pump systems. It wouldn’t have used that much more electricity. They could’ve done that and kept the athletes comfortable, while still bragging about the green’ness of it. And it would have been an example people all over the world could have followed. Instead it’s a black eye.
Anonymous wrote:The Paris Olympic Village is a complete disaster. No AC, crappy food, and terrible beds? Seriously? Athletes are saying it’s unbearable, and I’m ashamed this is how they’re being treated.
Reports show athletes dealing with no air conditioning in the heat, awful food options, and beds that are so uncomfortable they can’t get a good night's sleep. This is supposed to be the peak of sports, and instead, it’s a nightmare.
When the US hosts the Olympics, we need to show everyone how it’s done right. Comfortable living spaces, great food, and all the necessary amenities. France’s mess should be a lesson on what NOT to do. We can and must do better.