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Anonymous wrote:The Dutch are soccer-obsessed, but they also give a crap about children’s health.

Netherlands
Has decided to ban artificial soccer fields entirely by 2030, citing potential cancer risks associated with artificial grass. A study found that rubber crumb used in artificial turf contained carcinogenic compounds at levels 1.5–3.7 times higher than allowed in consumer products

They classify fertilizer and herbicide as causing cancer. They also pay taxes to maintenance existing fields and create more fields including mowing. If you do not do the maintenance on grass fields including mowing, watering, seeding, fertilizer, herbicide application, aeration and repairs it is a dangerous surface to play on. These grass field need to be rested.

It isn't dangerous. It's just muddy and messy. We all grew up playing on fields that weren't watered, fertilized, and herbicided. It builds character. You've created such a false forced dichotomy that it's impossible to take you seriously - especially when there is decades of data showing that artificial turf fields have much higher rates of injuries.

That for professional athletes. Having been around sports(rec and travel) the amount of injuries are much much higher on non maintained grass field is vastly greater vs artificial fields.
You are just a troll.

Just because you're being a shill does not mean that I am being a troll.

Your anecdotes are not very persuasive. Studies have been done for all levels. You are correct that there is a shockingly higher level of serious knee injuries for professional athletes but there's also twice as many incidents of ankle injuries in girls youth sports (2007) and higher concussion rates. What's more it gets worse the longer it's used because a lot of the rubber tire fill goes away over time.

Turf is worse in every way. Higher rates of injuries, increased heat island effect, and toxic chemicals. We aren't allowed to throw tires in the trash or bury them in our backyard but shredded tires are ok for youth sports fields?

The only thing turf is supposedly better at is cost and maintenance but frankly I'm skeptical.

We were talking about PVC turf, not crumb rubber. Conflating all artificial turf into the same category is deceitful.

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Anonymous wrote:The Dutch are soccer-obsessed, but they also give a crap about children’s health.

Netherlands
Has decided to ban artificial soccer fields entirely by 2030, citing potential cancer risks associated with artificial grass. A study found that rubber crumb used in artificial turf contained carcinogenic compounds at levels 1.5–3.7 times higher than allowed in consumer products

They classify fertilizer and herbicide as causing cancer. They also pay taxes to maintenance existing fields and create more fields including mowing. If you do not do the maintenance on grass fields including mowing, watering, seeding, fertilizer, herbicide application, aeration and repairs it is a dangerous surface to play on. These grass field need to be rested.

It isn't dangerous. It's just muddy and messy. We all grew up playing on fields that weren't watered, fertilized, and herbicided. It builds character. You've created such a false forced dichotomy that it's impossible to take you seriously - especially when there is decades of data showing that artificial turf fields have much higher rates of injuries.

That for professional athletes. Having been around sports(rec and travel) the amount of injuries are much much higher on non maintained grass field is vastly greater vs artificial fields.
You are just a troll.

Just because you're being a shill does not mean that I am being a troll.

Your anecdotes are not very persuasive. Studies have been done for all levels. You are correct that there is a shockingly higher level of serious knee injuries for professional athletes but there's also twice as many incidents of ankle injuries in girls youth sports (2007) and higher concussion rates. What's more it gets worse the longer it's used because a lot of the rubber tire fill goes away over time.

Turf is worse in every way. Higher rates of injuries, increased heat island effect, and toxic chemicals. We aren't allowed to throw tires in the trash or bury them in our backyard but shredded tires are ok for youth sports fields?

The only thing turf is supposedly better at is cost and maintenance but frankly I'm skeptical.

Anonymous wrote:The back yard, a school nearby which shall remain nameless to avoid abuse, fort reno

Never artificial turf unless we must. When that happens we redouble vacuuming because the toxic black dust ends up everywhere

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Anonymous wrote:The Dutch are soccer-obsessed, but they also give a crap about children’s health.

Netherlands
Has decided to ban artificial soccer fields entirely by 2030, citing potential cancer risks associated with artificial grass. A study found that rubber crumb used in artificial turf contained carcinogenic compounds at levels 1.5–3.7 times higher than allowed in consumer products

They classify fertilizer and herbicide as causing cancer. They also pay taxes to maintenance existing fields and create more fields including mowing. If you do not do the maintenance on grass fields including mowing, watering, seeding, fertilizer, herbicide application, aeration and repairs it is a dangerous surface to play on. These grass field need to be rested.

It isn't dangerous. It's just muddy and messy. We all grew up playing on fields that weren't watered, fertilized, and herbicided. It builds character. You've created such a false forced dichotomy that it's impossible to take you seriously - especially when there is decades of data showing that artificial turf fields have much higher rates of injuries.

That for professional athletes. Having been around sports(rec and travel) the amount of injuries are much much higher on non maintained grass field is vastly greater vs artificial fields.
You are just a troll.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The Dutch are soccer-obsessed, but they also give a crap about children’s health.

Netherlands
Has decided to ban artificial soccer fields entirely by 2030, citing potential cancer risks associated with artificial grass. A study found that rubber crumb used in artificial turf contained carcinogenic compounds at levels 1.5–3.7 times higher than allowed in consumer products

They classify fertilizer and herbicide as causing cancer. They also pay taxes to maintenance existing fields and create more fields including mowing. If you do not do the maintenance on grass fields including mowing, watering, seeding, fertilizer, herbicide application, aeration and repairs it is a dangerous surface to play on. These grass field need to be rested.

It isn't dangerous. It's just muddy and messy. We all grew up playing on fields that weren't watered, fertilized, and herbicided. It builds character. You've created such a false forced dichotomy that it's impossible to take you seriously - especially when there is decades of data showing that artificial turf fields have much higher rates of injuries.

It doesn’t build character if you never get to play because the fields are closed every time it rains. Turf fields give kids more playing time because the city closes the grass fields when it rains.

Anonymous wrote:Well you’ll get what you wish for, and so will I (to be as far away as is possible in Cleveland Park)

Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Deal or lives next to it? Exactly

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Anonymous wrote:The Dutch are soccer-obsessed, but they also give a crap about children’s health.

Netherlands
Has decided to ban artificial soccer fields entirely by 2030, citing potential cancer risks associated with artificial grass. A study found that rubber crumb used in artificial turf contained carcinogenic compounds at levels 1.5–3.7 times higher than allowed in consumer products

They classify fertilizer and herbicide as causing cancer. They also pay taxes to maintenance existing fields and create more fields including mowing. If you do not do the maintenance on grass fields including mowing, watering, seeding, fertilizer, herbicide application, aeration and repairs it is a dangerous surface to play on. These grass field need to be rested.

It isn't dangerous. It's just muddy and messy. We all grew up playing on fields that weren't watered, fertilized, and herbicided. It builds character. You've created such a false forced dichotomy that it's impossible to take you seriously - especially when there is decades of data showing that artificial turf fields have much higher rates of injuries.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dutch are soccer-obsessed, but they also give a crap about children’s health.

Netherlands
Has decided to ban artificial soccer fields entirely by 2030, citing potential cancer risks associated with artificial grass. A study found that rubber crumb used in artificial turf contained carcinogenic compounds at levels 1.5–3.7 times higher than allowed in consumer products

They classify fertilizer and herbicide as causing cancer. They also pay taxes to maintenance existing fields and create more fields including mowing. If you do not do the maintenance on grass fields including mowing, watering, seeding, fertilizer, herbicide application, aeration and repairs it is a dangerous surface to play on. These grass field need to be rested.

It isn't dangerous. It's just muddy and messy. We all grew up playing on fields that weren't watered, fertilized, and herbicided. It builds character. You've created such a false forced dichotomy that it's impossible to take you seriously - especially when there is decades of data showing that artificial turf fields have much higher rates of injuries.

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Anonymous wrote:Relying on grass fields destroys kid sports in DC. They close at any hint of rain. Turf fields mean kids can play unless there’s thunder/lightening. Replacing grass with turf is not a universally bad idea.

If you had three times as many grass fields, you could spread the wear and tear around more. That would make the fields hold up to rain better.