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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know guys. My DD was not Ivy material but she really loved Syracuse. I ran the net price calculator before she applied and they included a “Syracuse gift” (not merit, not FA) of about 30k so I let her apply. She got in and got absolutely nothing.

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point being I lost faith in these calculators

Well, at least she wasn’t lured in with a big package and then gapped in her sophomore year, like Syracuse is doing now to Pell Grant families. Expensive, next tier down schools like Syracuse and Lehigh are known for not increasing financial aid to cover the gap resulting from tuition increases since freshmen year. Beware.

I saw this happen at Emory. It’s really sad. Should be illegal. Know one first gen who didn’t make it back.

Anonymous wrote:Pomona and Wesleyan are very generous from our experience.

Thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know guys. My DD was not Ivy material but she really loved Syracuse. I ran the net price calculator before she applied and they included a “Syracuse gift” (not merit, not FA) of about 30k so I let her apply. She got in and got absolutely nothing.

They included it, or listed that it she was possibly eligible to win?

If it was genuinely included, you should take that printout or screenshot and send it to them informing them they violated federal law and see if they want to fix it immediately.

Can it be considered a violation of federal law if it’s just a net price calculator? I can’t imagine that estimate is set in stone.

She chose another school and is happy about her choice so I won’t pursue it, but it just annoyed me.

Syracuse has more disclaimers attached to their NPC than every other school that I've seen combined.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know guys. My DD was not Ivy material but she really loved Syracuse. I ran the net price calculator before she applied and they included a “Syracuse gift” (not merit, not FA) of about 30k so I let her apply. She got in and got absolutely nothing.

They included it, or listed that it she was possibly eligible to win?

If it was genuinely included, you should take that printout or screenshot and send it to them informing them they violated federal law and see if they want to fix it immediately.

Can it be considered a violation of federal law if it’s just a net price calculator? I can’t imagine that estimate is set in stone.

She chose another school and is happy about her choice so I won’t pursue it, but it just annoyed me.

Pomona and Wesleyan are very generous from our experience.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know guys. My DD was not Ivy material but she really loved Syracuse. I ran the net price calculator before she applied and they included a “Syracuse gift” (not merit, not FA) of about 30k so I let her apply. She got in and got absolutely nothing.

They included it, or listed that it she was possibly eligible to win?

If it was genuinely included, you should take that printout or screenshot and send it to them informing them they violated federal law and see if they want to fix it immediately.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you PP.

So all Ivy League schools are providing about 30k off sticker price? How about MIT? U of Chicago? Johns Hopkins? Obviously I can run a calculator for each school individually but I assume many people have done it already and have the ballpark answer ready.

It seems kind of lazy you want others to do your specific search for you. And that you think you won’t have to compromise on rank or cost. Sort of entitled TBH.

Run the net price calculators.

We are not your staff.

DP:

How much more work would it have been to offer an actual answer than to post what you did?

How much less work would it have been to not respond?

Why does it give you pleasure to be anonymously unpleasant to strangers?

Another DP. I kind of see their point. OP posts back all disgruntled and in that time and the time of responding on this thread, she could have run NPCs for several schools. I think the original question was valid (and I responded with hard numbers), but all the follow up wanting more specific info that she could have gotten herself in similar time seemed a little presumptuous.

I am not disgruntled in the least. I got several useful responses, both specific and general. I am not doing net price calculators for each and every school yet (though I did for several) because we are still several years out. I don't know what my finances will look like at that moment at the level of detail that is required in those calculators; how much my house is going to be worth etc.

We are also immigrants and our kids have an option of attending school abroad, for close to zero cost. The brand name is not going to be as strong as top US schools, obviously, but the caliber of students is somewhere in the T20-T30 range. It's rigorous and some programs (e.g. medicine, dentistry...) require fewer years of study and only one round of admissions. So we will be considering this as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you PP.

So all Ivy League schools are providing about 30k off sticker price? How about MIT? U of Chicago? Johns Hopkins? Obviously I can run a calculator for each school individually but I assume many people have done it already and have the ballpark answer ready.

It seems kind of lazy you want others to do your specific search for you. And that you think you won’t have to compromise on rank or cost. Sort of entitled TBH.

Run the net price calculators.

We are not your staff.

DP:

How much more work would it have been to offer an actual answer than to post what you did?

How much less work would it have been to not respond?

Why does it give you pleasure to be anonymously unpleasant to strangers?

Another DP. I kind of see their point. OP posts back all disgruntled and in that time and the time of responding on this thread, she could have run NPCs for several schools. I think the original question was valid (and I responded with hard numbers), but all the follow up wanting more specific info that she could have gotten herself in similar time seemed a little presumptuous.

Lets say for the sake of argument I agree it was a little presumptuous. Is that a reason to be rude and give a petulant response? How does that make it any better?

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Anonymous wrote:$250K families are getting merit aid at T30? Since when?

I am OP and I ran a few calculators and you can get a lot of aid at Harvard and Princeton. The cost gets pretty close to UMD (we are in MD).

I got almost zero aid at, for example Carnegie Mellon. Since there are a lot of schools and we are still some year out of applying, I am looking for leads on other top schools where aid is available.

Nice. You must not have a lot of assets outside of retirement/primary residence.. We are in the same income neighborhood and noticed that once you cross the $1.5-$2M threshold for assets, there's zero merit at top schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know guys. My DD was not Ivy material but she really loved Syracuse. I ran the net price calculator before she applied and they included a “Syracuse gift” (not merit, not FA) of about 30k so I let her apply. She got in and got absolutely nothing.

^
point being I lost faith in these calculators

Well, at least she wasn’t lured in with a big package and then gapped in her sophomore year, like Syracuse is doing now to Pell Grant families. Expensive, next tier down schools like Syracuse and Lehigh are known for not increasing financial aid to cover the gap resulting from tuition increases since freshmen year. Beware.

So sorry, and thank you for sharing this. Advising a Pell kid now, and this is helpful.

An unhooked kid is unlikely to get into any of these schools, particularly the ivies. Op, start with schools your kid is likely to get into and can afford. Adding reaches is never a difficult process.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know guys. My DD was not Ivy material but she really loved Syracuse. I ran the net price calculator before she applied and they included a “Syracuse gift” (not merit, not FA) of about 30k so I let her apply. She got in and got absolutely nothing.

^
point being I lost faith in these calculators

Well, at least she wasn’t lured in with a big package and then gapped in her sophomore year, like Syracuse is doing now to Pell Grant families. Expensive, next tier down schools like Syracuse and Lehigh are known for not increasing financial aid to cover the gap resulting from tuition increases since freshmen year. Beware.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know guys. My DD was not Ivy material but she really loved Syracuse. I ran the net price calculator before she applied and they included a “Syracuse gift” (not merit, not FA) of about 30k so I let her apply. She got in and got absolutely nothing.

^
point being I lost faith in these calculators

I don’t know guys. My DD was not Ivy material but she really loved Syracuse. I ran the net price calculator before she applied and they included a “Syracuse gift” (not merit, not FA) of about 30k so I let her apply. She got in and got absolutely nothing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you PP.

So all Ivy League schools are providing about 30k off sticker price? How about MIT? U of Chicago? Johns Hopkins? Obviously I can run a calculator for each school individually but I assume many people have done it already and have the ballpark answer ready.

It seems kind of lazy you want others to do your specific search for you. And that you think you won’t have to compromise on rank or cost. Sort of entitled TBH.

Are you new here? Or to message boards in general?