Anonymous wrote:I am a registered independent who truly struggled to decide who to vote for in many past elections including Obama/mcCain (though Sarah palin made up my mind for me).

The fact that Donald Trump was the republican nominee after being caught on camera bragging about sexually assaulting women in his previous election and is once again the nominee after the events of January 6th has completely destroyed my faith in every current republican politician. They have well and truly sold their souls. If they clean house in a few years I’ll consider voting for a republican again then.

Bill Clinton said and did equally disgusting sexually exploitative behaviors and I am old enough to recall Democrats in the House and Senate saying, “This isn’t relevant to Clinton’s presidential job performance.”

My, my, what a difference a couple of decades makes. Or a change of party registration in the sexually harassing party.

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Anonymous wrote:As a moderate Rep who truly despises extreme left ideologies just as much as extreme right ideologies I am the one who feels hopeless with the ever-dividing extremism our society has evolved to, and you can blame the Democrats just as much as the Republicans. Both are equally to blame.

The moderates are running the Democratic Party and the country.

Title 9 would like a word.

Title 9 wouldn't even exist were it not for Democrats. Republicans blocked it. And now they falsely pretend to be the great saviors of Title 9. What a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is a left of center president. Schumer and Jeffries are left of center democrats. None of the three - the Dmeocratic leadership, are "progressives"

There is a lot of room in the democratic tent for people who are pro-choice and don't want crazy running the country.

I would argue that Biden is much closer to Reagan than most of the current GOP.

What about a pro life democrat. Is there room for them?

Of course there is. Senator Bob Casey is a pro-life Democrat.

Anonymous wrote:As a moderate Rep who truly despises extreme left ideologies just as much as extreme right ideologies I am the one who feels hopeless with the ever-dividing extremism our society has evolved to, and you can blame the Democrats just as much as the Republicans. Both are equally to blame.

I agree. I have been a moderate Democrat for most of my life and only switched parties when I attended a hearing in my state legislature and saw Democrats on the state senate budget committee cowtowing in fear towards a racist special interest lobbyist group. They literally had terror in their eyes and limited themselves to verbal support of the bill before the committee which was a nonpartisan anti-government corruption bill. After seeing that play out, I switched parties. I accept that I only have to agree with some of the party platform and state and local politics affect my daily life far more than national politics do.

Anonymous wrote:As a moderate Rep who truly despises extreme left ideologies just as much as extreme right ideologies I am the one who feels hopeless with the ever-dividing extremism our society has evolved to, and you can blame the Democrats just as much as the Republicans. Both are equally to blame.

Mitt Romney lost. I don't think president Obama was terrible, but I think Romney would have been extremely unifying in a "moderate" that crosses aisles way.

I am a registered independent who truly struggled to decide who to vote for in many past elections including Obama/mcCain (though Sarah palin made up my mind for me).

The fact that Donald Trump was the republican nominee after being caught on camera bragging about sexually assaulting women in his previous election and is once again the nominee after the events of January 6th has completely destroyed my faith in every current republican politician. They have well and truly sold their souls. If they clean house in a few years I’ll consider voting for a republican again then.

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Anonymous wrote:As a moderate Rep who truly despises extreme left ideologies just as much as extreme right ideologies I am the one who feels hopeless with the ever-dividing extremism our society has evolved to, and you can blame the Democrats just as much as the Republicans. Both are equally to blame.

The moderates are running the Democratic Party and the country.

Title 9 would like a word.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is a left of center president. Schumer and Jeffries are left of center democrats. None of the three - the Dmeocratic leadership, are "progressives"

There is a lot of room in the democratic tent for people who are pro-choice and don't want crazy running the country.

I would argue that Biden is much closer to Reagan than most of the current GOP.

Dp. From my perspective, Biden’s border policies and changes to Title IX are too far left to be considered centrist.

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Let's just make clear that NO ONE is for open borders. The Democratic party policy on borders would be considered far right at any point in modern history. It's just not "shoot them in the river and leave their corpses impaled on our death buoys as a warning to the others".

As a moderate Dem I'm super amused by the narrative that the Democratic party is so radical. I know everyone has a crush on AOC, but the fact she exists doesn't mean she sets party policy. The fact that gaza protesters at Columbia aren't republicans doesn't mean they're Democratic powerbrokers.

The mainstream of today's Democratic party are basically Reagan Republicans. Tough on crime, include middle-class in tax cuts, reduce federal headcount, spend heavily on military and it relies heavily on the backing of pretty much all major business except the oil industry. But the democratic party also refuses to take any steps on climate change.

They're so MILD it's insane. I can't stand what sticks in the mud they are, but an administration that would historically be considered right of center and business-as-usual would be a relief these days.

Anonymous wrote:Biden is a left of center president. Schumer and Jeffries are left of center democrats. None of the three - the Dmeocratic leadership, are "progressives"

There is a lot of room in the democratic tent for people who are pro-choice and don't want crazy running the country.

I would argue that Biden is much closer to Reagan than most of the current GOP.

What about a pro life democrat. Is there room for them?

Being "center" is such an easy cop out. Literally name a time when the center didn't just "Both sides." If both sides have been wrong since 1776 and you still can't define yourself with either party, maybe your view is just, you know, unpopular. Most Americans are represented by either party.

Actually, it is people like you who I fear the most. You can’t imagine that anyone may have issues that straddle the two parties???

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.

Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).

Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.

You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.

Why not Mark Kelly and Gretchen Whitmer as the ticket? That would be my dream ticket.

Anonymous wrote:Biden is a left of center president. Schumer and Jeffries are left of center democrats. None of the three - the Dmeocratic leadership, are "progressives"

There is a lot of room in the democratic tent for people who are pro-choice and don't want crazy running the country.

I would argue that Biden is much closer to Reagan than most of the current GOP.

There is no room in the GOP tent for anyone who stands up to the lies. They wanted to hang Pence. They wanted to hold a televised military tribunal and execute Liz Cheney. With the exception of the 1% of the GOP like Lincoln Project, Kinzinger, Cheney etc the rest are afraid to speak the truth and stand up to the lies, like a bunch of cultists and spineless cowards.