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It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

The point is that the moped drivers don't have the ability to obliterate an entire family as does the operator of a four ton murder machine. But continue telling yourself that they do.

Murder machines! This silly rhetoric really misleads people about what is actually happening. Lets look at some official government stats, shall we?

In 2022, there were:

-a grand total of 17 people in Washington DC who were killed by car drivers

-nearly as many deaths, 15, were blamed on bicyclist/pedestrian/scooter errors

-there were 203 homicides

Those 15 bikers/pedestrians would be alive if they make their “error” with a moped instead of a car.

Weird how even when it's not the car driver's fault, it's still the car driver's fault.

There was a recent accident in which one person on an e-bike drove into another person on an e-bike and one of them was killed. Still a car driver's fault, though, right?

Do you not understand that a car is inherently more deadly than a moped?

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Anonymous wrote:
It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

The point is that the moped drivers don't have the ability to obliterate an entire family as does the operator of a four ton murder machine. But continue telling yourself that they do.

Murder machines! This silly rhetoric really misleads people about what is actually happening. Lets look at some official government stats, shall we?

In 2022, there were:

-a grand total of 17 people in Washington DC who were killed by car drivers

-nearly as many deaths, 15, were blamed on bicyclist/pedestrian/scooter errors

-there were 203 homicides

Those 15 bikers/pedestrians would be alive if they make their “error” with a moped instead of a car.

Weird how even when it's not the car driver's fault, it's still the car driver's fault.

There was a recent accident in which one person on an e-bike drove into another person on an e-bike and one of them was killed. Still a car driver's fault, though, right?

If Trump is elected, throw the moped men into the mass deportation.

I got yelled at by one on the bike trail in Arlington yesterday.

Many DC moped drivers are here illegally.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

The point is that the moped drivers don't have the ability to obliterate an entire family as does the operator of a four ton murder machine. But continue telling yourself that they do.

Murder machines! This silly rhetoric really misleads people about what is actually happening. Lets look at some official government stats, shall we?

In 2022, there were:

-a grand total of 17 people in Washington DC who were killed by car drivers

-nearly as many deaths, 15, were blamed on bicyclist/pedestrian/scooter errors

-there were 203 homicides

Those 15 bikers/pedestrians would be alive if they make their “error” with a moped instead of a car.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

The point is that the moped drivers don't have the ability to obliterate an entire family as does the operator of a four ton murder machine. But continue telling yourself that they do.

Murder machines! This silly rhetoric really misleads people about what is actually happening. Lets look at some official government stats, shall we?

In 2022, there were:

-a grand total of 17 people in Washington DC who were killed by car drivers

-nearly as many deaths, 15, were blamed on bicyclist/pedestrian/scooter errors

-there were 203 homicides

Police enforcement took place on June 5. Here’s video. It’s still going on.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C72cEPmPBiQ/?igsh=MTJweTlnaXR2dXlnZQ==

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Anonymous wrote:
It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

The point is that the moped drivers don't have the ability to obliterate an entire family as does the operator of a four ton murder machine. But continue telling yourself that they do.

Oh is that the standard you invented? Pretty dumb argument but as a factual matter, someone one on a moped could of course wipe out a family in a crosswalk. If you hit your head on the cement, all bets are off.

To the extent they’re replacing cars, mopeds are 100% better. And I don’t in fact see them violating traffic laws where I am.

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Anonymous wrote:
It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

The point is that the moped drivers don't have the ability to obliterate an entire family as does the operator of a four ton murder machine. But continue telling yourself that they do.

Oh is that the standard you invented? Pretty dumb argument but as a factual matter, someone one on a moped could of course wipe out a family in a crosswalk. If you hit your head on the cement, all bets are off.

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Anonymous wrote:They need to require licenses

We’ve decided that some people in DC are required to obey laws and pay the taxes for the people we allow to break the law. That’s the deal you sign up for living here.

+1000

The only traffic laws that are enforced are ones that can be enforced by traffic cameras.

Good news for mopeds and drunk drivers and bicyclists and stoned drivers and anyone who hides their license plate number or who simply decides that they don't want to have a license plate.

Anonymous wrote:
It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

The point is that the moped drivers don't have the ability to obliterate an entire family as does the operator of a four ton murder machine. But continue telling yourself that they do.

The guys on mopeds have replaced bicyclists as the biggest a-holes on the road.

Anonymous wrote:Seems like a Darwin Awards candidate but I also worry about them hitting pedestrians or causing car accidents with other victims.

Agree it's good the city is "cracking down" but also -- I have not noticed any actual decline in the mopeds or their dangerous behavior so I don't have a ton of faith in the city to do anything here. Can anyone report whether they've ever seen any of the city's supposed measures in action or seen any benefits from them.

I have absolutely seen the impact of the efforts by MPD. I drive through Adams Morgan to get home to Columbia Heights every afternoon. Beginning in April, the moped riders appeared out of nowhere. My stress level went through the roof as riders crossed against red lights and wove in and out of heavy traffic.
Then in June there was a crackdown and almost 200 bikes were carted away on a flatbed. I saw the impact immediately. On the same ride home, I might have encountered 10 mopeds in a 5 block stretch. Now it’s down to 2. It’s not perfect, but it’s progress.

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Anonymous wrote:They need to require licenses

We’ve decided that some people in DC are required to obey laws and pay the taxes for the people we allow to break the law. That’s the deal you sign up for living here.

28 yr DC resident and this just about sums it up.

There was a time when this was not explicitly true and we had a couple mayoral administrations who actually seemed to want to make the city a great place to live instead of a boondoggle. But that era appears to be over and I don't see another one on the horizon. Everyone currently in charge (Bowser, the Council, heads of most major agencies) seems more than happy with this arrangement.