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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think this will help USG to retain good people. DC has priced itself out as a government town.

Anything back office should be sent out of DC: 99% of IRS, HHS, VA, DoD - A lot of that stuff can be done (and is) in the suburbs of Des Moines, KC, Omaha, Syracuse, Columbus, etc.

There's a lot of cross-agency coordination and collaboration that would die and agencies would become a lot more inefficient and dysfunctional.

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Anonymous wrote:Housing costs will be human again!

This! DC will become affordable again.

Nope. Feds don't get paid enough to buy or live in the expensive areas on the whole. Those that do bought there during the last recession or even 20-30 years ago.

If IT, beltway bandits, and Big Law leave DC, then it will become affordable again.

And yet, when they move fed agencies to other states, everyone tends to quit. People don't want to be in those back water places.

That may be part of it, another part is that most are married and the fed who would be transferred is the lower earning spouse. Doesn't make any sense to relocate for the lower earning spouse.

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Anonymous wrote:He and Steve Bannon have been clear since 2015 about dismantling the "administrative state" - which basically means not having a functional federal government, thus making our enemies happy.

I am not sure why people want Trump lackeys looking at meat processing plants of their GOP donors to make sure the facilities are clean, or lackeys approving drugs for medical use, or lackeyes sitting in air traffic control towers.

But hey, we will get the government we deserve after this election, so its all good.

It's like conservative voters want to go back to buying rancid meat, child labor, and not knowing what's in your drugs.

I'm fine with shipping federal jobs out of DC, though, most of us can barely afford to live in this metro area.

‘memba when Musk cut the Twitter workforce by 80% and all the progressives howled that the company would quickly collapse? How’d that work out?

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Anonymous wrote:Housing costs will be human again!

This! DC will become affordable again.

Nope. Feds don't get paid enough to buy or live in the expensive areas on the whole. Those that do bought there during the last recession or even 20-30 years ago.

If IT, beltway bandits, and Big Law leave DC, then it will become affordable again.

And yet, when they move fed agencies to other states, everyone tends to quit. People don't want to be in those back water places.

What is so fascinating is that Trump is great for my HHI. We make over $1m and should be good for our taxes.

Today, I heard this guy talk about Trump supporters this way, "the people with the least amount of money look up to the people who took their money." I thought that was so interesting.

I would rather have civil and women's rights over lower taxes. The only thing I will do with the money is save it and give it to pro-choice organizations.

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Anonymous wrote:Housing costs will be human again!

This! DC will become affordable again.

Nope. Feds don't get paid enough to buy or live in the expensive areas on the whole. Those that do bought there during the last recession or even 20-30 years ago.

If IT, beltway bandits, and Big Law leave DC, then it will become affordable again.

Anonymous wrote:Most federal employees would be absolutely thrilled to be moved to different state.

Yep. It's not going to affect how I vote, but I would love to be out of the DC metro. Most feds would.

Anonymous wrote:Also the USG can save a lot of money by lowering the pay for federal workers once they are allowed to relocate out of the expensive DC metro area.

Let them telework from wherever they want to live and the USG can also reduce their salaries to account for the lower cost of living.

It's a win-win.

They already do that at my agency. You are paid the government rate for the area where you live. So if you telework from Kansas or Florida, you now get that rate.

One of my dh's coworkers wants to move back to NYC and work remotely, but the federal government doesn't give you the more expensive area's pay rate, our HR just refuses to let you telework from higher cost areas.

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Anonymous wrote:Also the USG can save a lot of money by lowering the pay for federal workers once they are allowed to relocate out of the expensive DC metro area.

Let them telework from wherever they want to live and the USG can also reduce their salaries to account for the lower cost of living.

It's a win-win.

Or fire them and replace them with contractors who won’t have the same benefits. That way they can upscale or downscale the workforce as jobs become more and more automated.

Seems like a win win for the American taxpayer.

Those people you want to take good jobs from, and turn them into contracting gigs with no benefits, those are American taxpayers too. If we downscale the whole workforce and gut the jobs of their benefits, it's American workers that suffer.

You either don't actually care about American workers or you're too stupid to understand how any of this works.

I’ve seen exactly how it works from the inside. You lazy rats are all fxcked.

Enjoy the depression these policies will almost certainly cause. We live and die together, like it or not. You can't gut one of the most affluent economies in the country without consequences. Trump and his cronies will get rich, and everyone else will suffer. But hey, you got to own the libs, so I guess it's worth it.

I am familiar with federal govt and 30-40% can and should be cut easily w/o any problems. Some work 1 or 2 hours a day. Ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Also the USG can save a lot of money by lowering the pay for federal workers once they are allowed to relocate out of the expensive DC metro area.

Let them telework from wherever they want to live and the USG can also reduce their salaries to account for the lower cost of living.

It's a win-win.

Or fire them and replace them with contractors who won’t have the same benefits. That way they can upscale or downscale the workforce as jobs become more and more automated.

Seems like a win win for the American taxpayer.

Those people you want to take good jobs from, and turn them into contracting gigs with no benefits, those are American taxpayers too. If we downscale the whole workforce and gut the jobs of their benefits, it's American workers that suffer.

You either don't actually care about American workers or you're too stupid to understand how any of this works.

I’ve seen exactly how it works from the inside. You lazy rats are all fxcked.

Enjoy the depression these policies will almost certainly cause. We live and die together, like it or not. You can't gut one of the most affluent economies in the country without consequences. Trump and his cronies will get rich, and everyone else will suffer. But hey, you got to own the libs, so I guess it's worth it.

I am familiar with federal govt and 30-40% can and should be cut easily w/o any problems. Some work 1 or 2 hours a day. Ridiculous.

I agree. I am a fed and a lot of people working for me don't do c**p. Time to clean the house.

Don't you think it is needed though? I have a bunch of loafers at my work not doing anything and collecting paycheck. Imagine how much of a burden it is on the exechequer?

GDP = C + I + G + NX

They are purposely trying to cause a recession.

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Anonymous wrote:Also the USG can save a lot of money by lowering the pay for federal workers once they are allowed to relocate out of the expensive DC metro area.

Let them telework from wherever they want to live and the USG can also reduce their salaries to account for the lower cost of living.

It's a win-win.

Or fire them and replace them with contractors who won’t have the same benefits. That way they can upscale or downscale the workforce as jobs become more and more automated.

Seems like a win win for the American taxpayer.

Those people you want to take good jobs from, and turn them into contracting gigs with no benefits, those are American taxpayers too. If we downscale the whole workforce and gut the jobs of their benefits, it's American workers that suffer.

You either don't actually care about American workers or you're too stupid to understand how any of this works.

I’ve seen exactly how it works from the inside. You lazy rats are all fxcked.

Enjoy the depression these policies will almost certainly cause. We live and die together, like it or not. You can't gut one of the most affluent economies in the country without consequences. Trump and his cronies will get rich, and everyone else will suffer. But hey, you got to own the libs, so I guess it's worth it.

I am familiar with federal govt and 30-40% can and should be cut easily w/o any problems. Some work 1 or 2 hours a day. Ridiculous.

Most federal employees would be absolutely thrilled to be moved to different state.

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Anonymous wrote:Also the USG can save a lot of money by lowering the pay for federal workers once they are allowed to relocate out of the expensive DC metro area.

Let them telework from wherever they want to live and the USG can also reduce their salaries to account for the lower cost of living.

It's a win-win.

Or fire them and replace them with contractors who won’t have the same benefits. That way they can upscale or downscale the workforce as jobs become more and more automated.

Seems like a win win for the American taxpayer.

They already did this.

The result was a ballooning in the day to day operation of the federal government because the actual work of the government was outsourced to the big consulting firms and beltway bandits, rather than just paying salary and pension to federal workers. Many of those feds simply went from the government to become SME's at the consulting firms and 5x'd their salary and benefits and the taxpayers are covering those costs.

The federal wrokforce in DC is basically barebones because it is just people putting out RFPs for the contractors and subcontractors. Other than DOD, the largest employers are the various park rangers across the country and the postal service.