Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 15:31     Subject: Dartmouth death
Anonymous wrote:It wouldn’t really make sense for the to be a hazing incident during sophomore summer when only sophomores are on campus. Everyone is the same year and so there’s no one older to be hazing the the sophomores.

I was assuming he jumped off the bridge drunk and drowned. It’s not safe, it’s not legal, and so of course we all did it.

This.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 13:05     Subject: Dartmouth death
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a public health researcher, I have posted many research results showing that Greek membership is associated with negative outcomes ranging from binge drinking to rape.

Fortunately, my kid favored schools where all clubs were open to all students.

Don’t you want your teen to learn how to make friends without having to compete and try out, let alone pay thousands of dollars a year so they feel popular?


This is really important, especially for non-affiliated males who are excluded from frat parties at even “nerdy” schools like Chicago, Johns Hopkins, and MIT.

Davidson parties are, in contrast, open to everyone — as are Stanford. Do your research, folks.


Dartmouth’s frat parties have been required to be open for at least 25 years, with a few exceptions like formals. But the weekend parties are open to all.

That said, as an alum, I wish the Greek system would be abolished. Though I know alumni donations are a big factor. My own kid chose a Greek-free campus. But it’s not clear that many of the same issues will be avoided.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 12:15     Subject: Dartmouth death
Anonymous wrote:The pro-Greek responses here do your case no favors. You sounds like an ass.


I’m embarrassed reading them and hope they are young kids somehow. I posted about my positive experiences and kids that thankfully have no interest. The lack of tact on this thread is staggering.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 11:03     Subject: Dartmouth death
The pro-Greek responses here do your case no favors. You sounds like an ass.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 10:58     Subject: Dartmouth death
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know MIT had frats from when I was in college…is it still the same? Princeton has since gotten rid of Greek life. Any other suggestions for schools to look into for males not into Greek life? Ours is humanities focused.


MIT frat parties were so wild back in the 90s. Still the case?


Yes. And all the Harvard kids go.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 10:42     Subject: Dartmouth death
Anonymous wrote:I know MIT had frats from when I was in college…is it still the same? Princeton has since gotten rid of Greek life. Any other suggestions for schools to look into for males not into Greek life? Ours is humanities focused.


MIT frat parties were so wild back in the 90s. Still the case?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 10:38     Subject: Dartmouth death
I know MIT had frats from when I was in college…is it still the same? Princeton has since gotten rid of Greek life. Any other suggestions for schools to look into for males not into Greek life? Ours is humanities focused.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 10:27     Subject: Dartmouth death
Anonymous wrote:As a public health researcher, I have posted many research results showing that Greek membership is associated with negative outcomes ranging from binge drinking to rape.

Fortunately, my kid favored schools where all clubs were open to all students.

Don’t you want your teen to learn how to make friends without having to compete and try out, let alone pay thousands of dollars a year so they feel popular?


This is really important, especially for non-affiliated males who are excluded from frat parties at even “nerdy” schools like Chicago, Johns Hopkins, and MIT.

Davidson parties are, in contrast, open to everyone — as are Stanford. Do your research, folks.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 09:11     Subject: Dartmouth death
As a public health researcher, I have posted many research results showing that Greek membership is associated with negative outcomes ranging from binge drinking to rape.

Fortunately, my kid favored schools where all clubs were open to all students.

Don’t you want your teen to learn how to make friends without having to compete and try out, let alone pay thousands of dollars a year so they feel popular?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 08:53     Subject: Re:Dartmouth death
We avoided any schools where Greek life dominated campus life.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 08:13     Subject: Re:Dartmouth death
Schools in the middle of nowhere is usually like that because there's nothing much else to do around.
Many people don't like that thus popularity of schools in city/urban setting is rising.
i.e. NYU and schools in Boston.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 08:05     Subject: Dartmouth death
Anonymous wrote:Students pledge because there is FOMO on campuses dominated by Greek life. Wish the whole system could be dismantled.


This.

You are a social pariah if you don’t get a bid on heavily Greek campuses. No one will talk to you or date you.

I had independent friends and they hated college. I loved it.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 00:57     Subject: Dartmouth death
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was in a sorority and represented Greek women on student government for my college. My husband was on fraternity council for the college and won a prestigious award as an adult for being a notable alumni. We both remain tight to our friends to this day, and my husband has had tremendous networking over the years. We loved it.

Having said that, I am so glad my own teens aren’t interested. The reality is we were in dangerous situations and I would lose my mind if my kids did any of the stuff we did back then.

I am so sorry for this family, so tragic, whatever the cause. I only posted to say not everyone against is someone that didn’t get a bid, that’s silly.


Thanks for speaking up. It's important.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 00:27     Subject: Dartmouth death
It wouldn’t really make sense for the to be a hazing incident during sophomore summer when only sophomores are on campus. Everyone is the same year and so there’s no one older to be hazing the the sophomores.

I was assuming he jumped off the bridge drunk and drowned. It’s not safe, it’s not legal, and so of course we all did it.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2024 23:35     Subject: Dartmouth death
Students pledge because there is FOMO on campuses dominated by Greek life. Wish the whole system could be dismantled.