Anonymous wrote:My DD (18) says she's not having kids, just doesn't want them. DS (20) says he'd like to have kids. But he's also never been in a relationship so who knows when that will happen. DH was 40 when he was born so it could be a long time.

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I'm 52. I said the same thing--that I don't want kids-- at 18 and also 25 and quite possibly at 30 (hard to remember). Now I have three. Who knows?

My GenZ kids and many of ther friends whom I know would marry people for their compatibility, kindness, ethics and ambitions to do good for the world and do well for themselves. Looks, money or fame aren't impressive for most of them.

Anonymous wrote:Based on your views and perceptions, how do you think Gen Z will handle having kids, will they have more kids or less kids? It seems like for the oldest Zoomers, they aren’t having much kids.

Some'll have kids and be fine, some won't have kids and some will find it overwhelming to have kids. Every generation did that, so can Gen-Z though with society, economy and parents telling them to keep postponing it for trivial reasons, it would happen much later and with much fertility struggles.

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Anonymous wrote:How can they? The prices for everything skyrocketed and wages have not

Middle class kids can’t afford it and they know it.

Poor kids crap out babies because they know they will be taken care of and will tolerate living with family and or government assistance.

This is sad but true and poor countries without welfare system, people chose to have more kids and put them to work from childhood to support family.

While here in the US the poor have more kids for more benefits.

Yup and our government policies enable it!

How is this worse than farmer and corporate welfare and handouts? And bailouts? Why do you single out one and not the other?

Anonymous wrote:DS is 23 and says he wants four or more kids. He knows finding a partner who also wants this might be tough.

Does he have ANY idea how much work that will be? Has he spent significant time around children, like babysitting or mentoring? Or does he just airily declare this, assuming that his poor brood mare of a wife will take care all the pesky details?

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Anonymous wrote:Boomers and GenXers have made society incredibly hostile to working parents, so I don't think we'll see a lot of younger generations having kids until that changes.

They've hade society incredibly hostile to stay at home parents as well so I don't think we'll see a lot of younger generations having kids until that changes. If any family goes single income for raising children, not only they face financial difficulties but lots of stigma painting SAHP as free loader and earner as controlling trad spouse. When at an appropriate time SAHP wants to go back to work, they deal with so many hurdles.

It's true that society-- particularly due to housing costs-- has made it impractical to have SAHPs. But that's not what is driving the decisions to not have kids. Young people want financial independence and to feel self-worth. I don't know anyone under 40 that wanted to quit working. But child care costs have simply gotten too expensive. And in the DMV, we saw the bourgeoisie willing to close schools for 18 months without regard for the impact on kids or parents. This is an incredibly hostile area for families unless you're uber-rich.

From what I know many are worried about how expensive everything is now, wanting to be financially stable before, and some are more focused on owning a house before thinking about kids. Guess it just depends on the Gen Z.

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Anonymous wrote:How can they? The prices for everything skyrocketed and wages have not

Middle class kids can’t afford it and they know it.

Poor kids crap out babies because they know they will be taken care of and will tolerate living with family and or government assistance.

This is sad but true and poor countries without welfare system, people chose to have more kids and put them to work from childhood to support family.

While here in the US the poor have more kids for more benefits.

Yup and our government policies enable it!

"Enable" is the wrong word. The issue is that Republican policies make it hard for the poor to avoid unwanted pregnancies.

Anonymous wrote:DS is 23 and says he wants four or more kids. He knows finding a partner who also wants this might be tough.

Maybe some Christian fundies will be interested in him.

Oldest Gen Z is 26.

Even I didn't want kids then and I didn't meet my DH until later.

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Anonymous wrote:My gen z young adult DDs are also adamant about not having kids. I get it though. They have watched me attempt and often fail at having both a big career and a family. I carried so much guilt about both keeping my career as well as not being able to keep up with childless or male counterparts. They don’t want to choose and they certainly have seen it’s next to impossible to have both and not be thoroughly exhausted or have a very well off family or spouse to outsource everything.

Mine saw the same in me. She wants to marry someone rich so she doesn’t have to work as hard.

This is definitely a thing - my daughter is only 23 but has had more than one guy (investment banker/med student) tell her on dates that "his wife will not have to work" as a sort of flex - it's strange, and she thinks its crazy - but thought I'd share that this dynamic is out there

Anonymous wrote:My gen z young adult DDs are also adamant about not having kids. I get it though. They have watched me attempt and often fail at having both a big career and a family. I carried so much guilt about both keeping my career as well as not being able to keep up with childless or male counterparts. They don’t want to choose and they certainly have seen it’s next to impossible to have both and not be thoroughly exhausted or have a very well off family or spouse to outsource everything.

Mine saw the same in me. She wants to marry someone rich so she doesn’t have to work as hard.

Anonymous wrote:DS is 23 and says he wants four or more kids. He knows finding a partner who also wants this might be tough.

Yes! There is hope that the human race will continue!!

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Anonymous wrote:How can they? The prices for everything skyrocketed and wages have not

Middle class kids can’t afford it and they know it.

Poor kids crap out babies because they know they will be taken care of and will tolerate living with family and or government assistance.

This is sad but true and poor countries without welfare system, people chose to have more kids and put them to work from childhood to support family.

While here in the US the poor have more kids for more benefits.

Yup and our government policies enable it!

My gen z young adult DDs are also adamant about not having kids. I get it though. They have watched me attempt and often fail at having both a big career and a family. I carried so much guilt about both keeping my career as well as not being able to keep up with childless or male counterparts. They don’t want to choose and they certainly have seen it’s next to impossible to have both and not be thoroughly exhausted or have a very well off family or spouse to outsource everything.