Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Trump gives you a tax cut, OP, I am sure you want your employer to reduce your salary accordingly.

What stupid logic.

Equating taxation to wages.

But government action increased your net income so to be fair it should be readjusted.

Anonymous wrote:We have to tip out two food runners, two bartenders and two bussers from your tip. The percentage is ca 7-7.5%.
Do 15% if you must or better, stay home. The reason we have so many workers is that we are busy. But if everyone leaves measly 10%, busy doesn't mean we make money.
Don't think that restaurants are making a bank either. Americans are used to eating out whenever they feel like it and now they have to think before they go out. Well, so does a restaurant worker; all services and entertainment is up.
We still have no benefits like retirement or health. And this increase doesn't even start to make up years of wage theft and not paying the minimum required by law.
You can't pay less than the menu price, but you can take your frustration out on the server.
Whatever was done to us before, should have never happened. I have several zeros in my SS statement even though I worked full time.
Also, if you ever lose your fancy job, you can always come to us as we take people without any experience.
Please stay home. Just like anything else that goes up, you buy less of it or stop buying at all. You don't try to find a way to pay less by taking it out of workers' pay.
There are owners already doing it, believe me.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Trump gives you a tax cut, OP, I am sure you want your employer to reduce your salary accordingly.

What stupid logic.

Equating taxation to wages.

Anonymous wrote:We have to tip out two food runners, two bartenders and two bussers from your tip. The percentage is ca 7-7.5%.
Do 15% if you must or better, stay home. The reason we have so many workers is that we are busy. But if everyone leaves measly 10%, busy doesn't mean we make money.
Don't think that restaurants are making a bank either. Americans are used to eating out whenever they feel like it and now they have to think before they go out. Well, so does a restaurant worker; all services and entertainment is up.
We still have no benefits like retirement or health. And this increase doesn't even start to make up years of wage theft and not paying the minimum required by law.
You can't pay less than the menu price, but you can take your frustration out on the server.
Whatever was done to us before, should have never happened. I have several zeros in my SS statement even though I worked full time.
Also, if you ever lose your fancy job, you can always come to us as we take people without any experience.
Please stay home. Just like anything else that goes up, you buy less of it or stop buying at all. You don't try to find a way to pay less by taking it out of workers' pay.
There are owners already doing it, believe me.

Anonymous wrote:If Trump gives you a tax cut, OP, I am sure you want your employer to reduce your salary accordingly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Minimum wage for tipped workers was $6/h in 2023. After July 1, it will now rise to $10/h. Seeing as how the hourly wages have risen 66%, which inevitably means it'll be reflected in menu prices, customers should now reduce their tips in DC. 20% tipping on top of rapidly rising hourly wages is egregious double dipping. Tipping expectations should be proportionally reduced relative to the rise in hourly wages tipped workers can now expect to receive.

Why not 5%? Why not 12%?
You are an unserious poster making up numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area.

Idiotic post.

It's not the customer's job to make sure a waiter can live off what they earn AT THEIR JOB. Take it up with their employer.

10% might be a little low, sure, but the major point being missed is that customers should now reduce their tips propeotionally to the rising base wages. Those wage hikes are inevitably going to get passed onto consumers in the form of higher menu prices.

When's it stop? You're seriously going to sit there with a straight face and tell everyone they should still tip 20% when hourly wages for tipped workers goes to $15/h? How about $20/h? $25/h?

Sorry, but once you start exceeding minimum wage per hour, it is no longer the customer's responsibility to tip anymore. The only reason tipping existed in the first place was because wait staff were paid well below minimum wages per hour. The more that gap closes, the less customers should tip. Admit it, you can't explain why you should tip restaurant wait staff who may soon be earning $20/h at this rate while you never tip the Amazon delivery guy who also makes $20/h even though they both provide a service.

You really suck as a human being. If you are not going to tip, I hope you get the service you deserve.

You are an imbecile.

Do you tip the FedEx guy?
Do you tip the mailman?
Do you tip the driveway repair guy?
Do you tip your roofers?
Do you tip the Amazon delivery guy?
Do you tip the bagger at the grocery store?
Do you tip the mechanic?
Do you tip your kids' teachers?
Do you tip the nurse at the hospital?


Just admit US tipping culture makes no sense. All of those jobs above provide service, yet none of them regularly get or expect tips. Restaurant staff are not something special. Once they start exceeding minimum wages, why is there any tipping? The only reason tipping existed for wait staff was because they were paid far below minimum wage. Once laws go into place forcing businesses to pay them minimum wage, customers are no logner required or expected to tip.

Again, take liveable wage issues up with employers. It is never a customer's responsibility to ensure an employee is paid enough. It is utterly moronic to think a customer should be the ones responsible for wages. Rising minimum wages will get reflected in menu prices. Customers should therefore tip less since the money is going to pay increased base wages. It's really simple logic you seem to have a hard time understanding.

Are you asking to speak to the restaurant owner every time you sit down? Punishing waitstaff is horrible if your answer is no. (Which, of course it is, let's be honest.)

Anonymous wrote:Minimum wage for tipped workers was $6/h in 2023. After July 1, it will now rise to $10/h. Seeing as how the hourly wages have risen 66%, which inevitably means it'll be reflected in menu prices, customers should now reduce their tips in DC. 20% tipping on top of rapidly rising hourly wages is egregious double dipping. Tipping expectations should be proportionally reduced relative to the rise in hourly wages tipped workers can now expect to receive.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area.

Idiotic post.

It's not the customer's job to make sure a waiter can live off what they earn AT THEIR JOB. Take it up with their employer.

10% might be a little low, sure, but the major point being missed is that customers should now reduce their tips propeotionally to the rising base wages. Those wage hikes are inevitably going to get passed onto consumers in the form of higher menu prices.

When's it stop? You're seriously going to sit there with a straight face and tell everyone they should still tip 20% when hourly wages for tipped workers goes to $15/h? How about $20/h? $25/h?

Sorry, but once you start exceeding minimum wage per hour, it is no longer the customer's responsibility to tip anymore. The only reason tipping existed in the first place was because wait staff were paid well below minimum wages per hour. The more that gap closes, the less customers should tip. Admit it, you can't explain why you should tip restaurant wait staff who may soon be earning $20/h at this rate while you never tip the Amazon delivery guy who also makes $20/h even though they both provide a service.

You really suck as a human being. If you are not going to tip, I hope you get the service you deserve.

You are an imbecile.

Do you tip the FedEx guy?
Do you tip the mailman?
Do you tip the driveway repair guy?
Do you tip your roofers?
Do you tip the Amazon delivery guy?
Do you tip the bagger at the grocery store?
Do you tip the mechanic?
Do you tip your kids' teachers?
Do you tip the nurse at the hospital?


Just admit US tipping culture makes no sense. All of those jobs above provide service, yet none of them regularly get or expect tips. Restaurant staff are not something special. Once they start exceeding minimum wages, why is there any tipping? The only reason tipping existed for wait staff was because they were paid far below minimum wage. Once laws go into place forcing businesses to pay them minimum wage, customers are no logner required or expected to tip.

Again, take liveable wage issues up with employers. It is never a customer's responsibility to ensure an employee is paid enough. It is utterly moronic to think a customer should be the ones responsible for wages. Rising minimum wages will get reflected in menu prices. Customers should therefore tip less since the money is going to pay increased base wages. It's really simple logic you seem to have a hard time understanding.

Anonymous wrote:If I see a "service fee" at the restaurant when I sit down, I'm immediately leaving after July 1. Those better all be gone.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area.

Idiotic post.

It's not the customer's job to make sure a waiter can live off what they earn AT THEIR JOB. Take it up with their employer.

10% might be a little low, sure, but the major point being missed is that customers should now reduce their tips propeotionally to the rising base wages. Those wage hikes are inevitably going to get passed onto consumers in the form of higher menu prices.

When's it stop? You're seriously going to sit there with a straight face and tell everyone they should still tip 20% when hourly wages for tipped workers goes to $15/h? How about $20/h? $25/h?

Sorry, but once you start exceeding minimum wage per hour, it is no longer the customer's responsibility to tip anymore. The only reason tipping existed in the first place was because wait staff were paid well below minimum wages per hour. The more that gap closes, the less customers should tip. Admit it, you can't explain why you should tip restaurant wait staff who may soon be earning $20/h at this rate while you never tip the Amazon delivery guy who also makes $20/h even though they both provide a service.

You really suck as a human being. If you are not going to tip, I hope you get the service you deserve.

You are an imbecile.

Do you tip the FedEx guy?
Do you tip the mailman?
Do you tip the driveway repair guy?
Do you tip your roofers?
Do you tip the Amazon delivery guy?
Do you tip the bagger at the grocery store?
Do you tip the mechanic?
Do you tip your kids' teachers?
Do you tip the nurse at the hospital?


Just admit US tipping culture makes no sense. All of those jobs above provide service, yet none of them regularly get or expect tips. Restaurant staff are not something special. Once they start exceeding minimum wages, why is there any tipping? The only reason tipping existed for wait staff was because they were paid far below minimum wage. Once laws go into place forcing businesses to pay them minimum wage, customers are no logner required or expected to tip.

Again, take liveable wage issues up with employers. It is never a customer's responsibility to ensure an employee is paid enough. It is utterly moronic to think a customer should be the ones responsible for wages. Rising minimum wages will get reflected in menu prices. Customers should therefore tip less since the money is going to pay increased base wages. It's really simple logic you seem to have a hard time understanding.

No, because all those people making a LIVING wage. Restaurant workers, like waiters, do not.

I didn't force you to take a job as a server. Wages are between the employer and employee. If the server isn't making a living wage at their job, then they should work someplace where they can make a living wage. I pay the menu prices. As the tipped wage increases, I expect to be able to reduce the amount of tip I leave. Someday I would hope that the tipped wage concept is a thing of the past. Just charge me the appropriate amount. I don't tip the guy at Home Depot for taking me through the store to find the part I'm looking for---it's his job. A servers job is to take your order and bring you your food.