Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 20:26     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Anonymous wrote:It is really hard when your teen is mostly in charge of their own eating. Mine just came back from camp-- they have pizza and ice cream during the day. Then her friend's mom took her for Starbucks, where they got grande frappes. Junk food is everywhere and it's asking a lot of a 13-year-old to turn it down.


My hockey kids wouldn’t eat that. Neither would their friends. They’d be barfing at the next practice. And coach would be pissed.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 18:03     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Teen has to want to stop. I didn't realize I had an eating disorder until 27. I just thought I was bad and doomed.
Once I heard about eating disorders and therapy for it I wanted to recover.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 17:44     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Anonymous wrote:I am the compulsive eater poster. Back then, it was attributed to "glands" or whatever...but honestly it was what I ate! There was no mystery about why I was fat and kept gaining. I ate adult sized portions at meals, was my mother's eating buddy, and sneaked food from age 6.
I did not have thyroid problems, PCOS, or anything. After getting myself some help for my eating disorder at age 27 I lost the excess weight easily. Kept most of it off for over 40 years.
She may be eating things you aren't aware of. The nutritionist is anti logging because that makes compulsive eaters more compulsive. Weight Watchers made me nuts, lol not lol.


But what is too be done about a teen that just wants to eat too much other than meds? You obv knew you were eating too much, I can’t imagine making a food log would have moved the needle as a teen
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 17:40     Subject: Re:"Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Y’all need to read “Fat Talk” by Virginia Sole-Smith
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 17:36     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
I am the compulsive eater poster. Back then, it was attributed to "glands" or whatever...but honestly it was what I ate! There was no mystery about why I was fat and kept gaining. I ate adult sized portions at meals, was my mother's eating buddy, and sneaked food from age 6.
I did not have thyroid problems, PCOS, or anything. After getting myself some help for my eating disorder at age 27 I lost the excess weight easily. Kept most of it off for over 40 years.
She may be eating things you aren't aware of. The nutritionist is anti logging because that makes compulsive eaters more compulsive. Weight Watchers made me nuts, lol not lol.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 17:32     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of junk food with kids sports. After game snacks, celebratory pizza, team dinners, cupcakes for someone's birthday, boxes of donuts for early games, its ridiculous. The kids eat 2x as many calories as they burn or more. And most sports and practices have a lot of standing around. They aren't sprinting for 90 minutes.


Ugh. Agree and I hate it. Parents just won’t stop, and if you tell your child they can’t have it you are the bad guy


Exactly. And if you say no, they'll find a way to sneak it later. We try to moderate: "You had ice cream at camp, let's have fruit for dessert". But then there are cupcakes at soccer practice -- the kid looks at you with a pathetic face. Do you really say no? This plays out ALL THE FREAKING TIME.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 17:31     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't the nutritionist want your child to log calories?


Pure guess here. Maybe the nutritionist doesn't want OP's DD to get hung up on food control to a calorie level. That's a lot for a teen.



But that's the reason (barring some medical issue or a medication that causes weight gain) the teen is overweight.

My students are often overweight coming into kindergarten. That used to be unusual 20 yrs ago when I started teaching. By 6th grade, I'd say 3/4 of them are overweight. Judging by the crap they bring to school, it's simple math. All high calorie but low nutrition foods.


This

Some kids are eating all the wrong calories.


And schools are compounding it, making the kids most prone to obesity even fatter. Free breakfast for all (pop tarts and chocolate milk) , free lunch for all, pizza party for good behavior, donuts with finals, boxes of candy and bags of chips are pretty much the only incentives teachers use in classroom for anything relating to teens
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 17:24     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of junk food with kids sports. After game snacks, celebratory pizza, team dinners, cupcakes for someone's birthday, boxes of donuts for early games, its ridiculous. The kids eat 2x as many calories as they burn or more. And most sports and practices have a lot of standing around. They aren't sprinting for 90 minutes.


Ugh. Agree and I hate it. Parents just won’t stop, and if you tell your child they can’t have it you are the bad guy
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 17:12     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Anonymous wrote:OP, I promise you that if you do a deep dive into what she’s actually eating and accurately look at the calories in vs calories out, it’d be very apparent why she’s overweight.

It doesn’t have to be junk, a lot of it is portion size or mindlessly eating “healthy” snacks.


that's nice but when your "child" is a teen (older teen?) there's not much you can do -- if anything -- to induce weight loss. You control very little.

Parents of 4 year olds who control every single aspect of that preschooler's world forget this.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 17:04     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
How are her menstrual cycles? Does she have excess hair? She very well may have PCOS. Most of these comments have decided that she is doing something wrong and is lying, rather than looking into those conditions where it’s just the way the body is wired.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 17:00     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
It is really hard when your teen is mostly in charge of their own eating. Mine just came back from camp-- they have pizza and ice cream during the day. Then her friend's mom took her for Starbucks, where they got grande frappes. Junk food is everywhere and it's asking a lot of a 13-year-old to turn it down.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 16:36     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't the nutritionist want your child to log calories?


Pure guess here. Maybe the nutritionist doesn't want OP's DD to get hung up on food control to a calorie level. That's a lot for a teen.



But that's the reason (barring some medical issue or a medication that causes weight gain) the teen is overweight.

My students are often overweight coming into kindergarten. That used to be unusual 20 yrs ago when I started teaching. By 6th grade, I'd say 3/4 of them are overweight. Judging by the crap they bring to school, it's simple math. All high calorie but low nutrition foods.


This

Some kids are eating all the wrong calories.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 16:33     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I promise you that if you do a deep dive into what she’s actually eating and accurately look at the calories in vs calories out, it’d be very apparent why she’s overweight.

It doesn’t have to be junk, a lot of it is portion size or mindlessly eating “healthy” snacks.


Please stop with this old fashioned simplicity. Not all people who are overweight are so due to input. It's what the body does and does not do with the input. Not every human body can/does process food the same way.


How funny that no one is disclosing what is actually being eaten each day. What foods, what size, what time of day.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 16:31     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Anonymous wrote:As the parent of an overweight teen, I was interested to read the article now leading the Wash Post website. What's confusing to me is my kid exercises every day (plays two sports and is currenlty at sports camp), understands how to read a food label (we tell her to pay attention to serving sizes) and I as the parent am knowledgeable about healthy eating (we have no soda or chips in our house, and we emphasize a well-rounded food group with lots of protein). Given all that, is medicine going to be the next recommended step? I am seriously considering it.

Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/06/18/children-obesity-weight-loss-recommendations/


Noticed you failed to say what is actually eaten, by you or your child, in or out of the house.

Portion size?
Too many carbs (ie sugars)
Dessert?
Gatorade?

Real health clinics watch you for 2 days or overnights to check your vitals. Some do one full week and baseline tests day 1 and day 6.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 16:28     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Before you jump to medication and if your child is interested, find a dietitian to evaluate her. They will want her to keep a food log and that will probably highlight the high caloric food choices or serving size.


We have actually seen a nutritionist and she did not want a young teen logging her food.

As for the PP and calories in/calories out - for sure she eats too much. She’s hungry all the time and can’t stop herself. Thus the jump to medication.


Hmmm. Did you watch the gut biome documentary? They have identified a gut bacteria that regulates hunger signals to the brain, and some people don't have it.
. What documentary are you referring to ?