Anonymous wrote:OP here - any suggestions for good non-profits that are nice with well educated residents?

You won’t find “high end” in a non-profit. There’s a brand new one opening up near Rio in Gaithersburg that is sprawling and high end. Don’t recall the name.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - any suggestions for good non-profits that are nice with well educated residents?

Ingleside is nonprofit (which doesn't mean inexpensive) and the Rock Creek campus is where all of Cleveland Park retires in old age. Very, very educated population. World Bank, lawyers, academics, the usual upper NW population. When I visited a friend there, the only thing I didn't like was that there's no walkable campus. Those who have good mobility can walk out into the surrounding neighborhood, but the campus itself, while nestled among trees, is very hilly and doesn't even have great sidewalks to walk in and out of the complex.

That said, if you want educated, upscale, nonprofit, and close-in, I assume this should be on your list.

In contrast, I really like that Brighton Gardens Friendship Heights is super walkable. I used to take my mom to browse at Brooks Brothers or go to Marshalls when she was healthier - she loved to shop when she was younger so this was a nice activity for her. Also there are a ton of doctors offices walking distance in some of those medical office buildings on Wisc Ave. It is also super convenient to get there via metro.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - any suggestions for good non-profits that are nice with well educated residents?

Ingleside is nonprofit (which doesn't mean inexpensive) and the Rock Creek campus is where all of Cleveland Park retires in old age. Very, very educated population. World Bank, lawyers, academics, the usual upper NW population. When I visited a friend there, the only thing I didn't like was that there's no walkable campus. Those who have good mobility can walk out into the surrounding neighborhood, but the campus itself, while nestled among trees, is very hilly and doesn't even have great sidewalks to walk in and out of the complex.

That said, if you want educated, upscale, nonprofit, and close-in, I assume this should be on your list.

I'm so glad you mentioned this! We almost did it for father but for a retirement community nestled in rock creek park it's accessibility is trash. Absolute garbage. Unless you are driving or being driven in and out it is the least pedestrian and wheelchair friendly place I've been.

I'm the PP who mentioned this, and yeah, I was shocked. I think they took up all their remaining available land when they built the new buildings. By contrast, Asbury Methodist Village has a gorgeous walkable campus—but it's way the h*ll out in the middle of nowhere if DC is your point of reference. Still, worth looking into if the quality of life on campus is a priority. Indepent living residents, at least, are able to have dogs and the lovely grounds are available to walk them. My friend who is there has been really happy and well cared for now that she's had to move to assisted living.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - any suggestions for good non-profits that are nice with well educated residents?

I like Asbury Methodist village and Ingleside. Ingleside is higher end. But amv has some really lovely features and a nice community.

I already mentioned Knollwood on rock creek park. It is a non profit. Very pretty location, nice units, lots of activities, educated and well traveled residents. We only looked at independent living though, can’t speak to AL. Similar to Ingleside but I much preferred the Knollwood units.

You need to go visit a few to get a feel for them. That will help you figure out what model (eg, rent vs buy-in) works for you, and whether what you want exists is AL.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - any suggestions for good non-profits that are nice with well educated residents?

Ingleside is nonprofit (which doesn't mean inexpensive) and the Rock Creek campus is where all of Cleveland Park retires in old age. Very, very educated population. World Bank, lawyers, academics, the usual upper NW population. When I visited a friend there, the only thing I didn't like was that there's no walkable campus. Those who have good mobility can walk out into the surrounding neighborhood, but the campus itself, while nestled among trees, is very hilly and doesn't even have great sidewalks to walk in and out of the complex.

That said, if you want educated, upscale, nonprofit, and close-in, I assume this should be on your list.

I'm so glad you mentioned this! We almost did it for father but for a retirement community nestled in rock creek park it's accessibility is trash. Absolute garbage. Unless you are driving or being driven in and out it is the least pedestrian and wheelchair friendly place I've been.

Pp. *My father

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - any suggestions for good non-profits that are nice with well educated residents?

Ingleside is nonprofit (which doesn't mean inexpensive) and the Rock Creek campus is where all of Cleveland Park retires in old age. Very, very educated population. World Bank, lawyers, academics, the usual upper NW population. When I visited a friend there, the only thing I didn't like was that there's no walkable campus. Those who have good mobility can walk out into the surrounding neighborhood, but the campus itself, while nestled among trees, is very hilly and doesn't even have great sidewalks to walk in and out of the complex.

That said, if you want educated, upscale, nonprofit, and close-in, I assume this should be on your list.

I'm so glad you mentioned this! We almost did it for father but for a retirement community nestled in rock creek park it's accessibility is trash. Absolute garbage. Unless you are driving or being driven in and out it is the least pedestrian and wheelchair friendly place I've been.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - any suggestions for good non-profits that are nice with well educated residents?

Ingleside is nonprofit (which doesn't mean inexpensive) and the Rock Creek campus is where all of Cleveland Park retires in old age. Very, very educated population. World Bank, lawyers, academics, the usual upper NW population. When I visited a friend there, the only thing I didn't like was that there's no walkable campus. Those who have good mobility can walk out into the surrounding neighborhood, but the campus itself, while nestled among trees, is very hilly and doesn't even have great sidewalks to walk in and out of the complex.

That said, if you want educated, upscale, nonprofit, and close-in, I assume this should be on your list.

My Dad lives at Ingleside King Farm in Rockville and feels the same way about the people. He has met so many interesting people! While he has not needed it, he has heard not such good things about skilled nursing at the facility from other residents so be sure to check everything out.

Anonymous wrote:I have a relative who works in these kind of facilities. They are all the same. They all use the same staff (literally--the pay is low so the women work at 2 or more facilities or work in a facility and then also do home care). The staff are from poor countries overseas (mostly Haiti and African countries) and do no share American values on work ethic, cleanliness, politeness, and they do not enjoy interaction with other staff who are not of their ethnic group (my relative, who is African-American, feels ostracized). The facilities try to feed the residents as cheaply as possible.

They are not. But the good ones can seem kind of generic and not very posh because the money is going to employees, not interior design.

Anonymous wrote:OP here - any suggestions for good non-profits that are nice with well educated residents?

Ingleside is nonprofit (which doesn't mean inexpensive) and the Rock Creek campus is where all of Cleveland Park retires in old age. Very, very educated population. World Bank, lawyers, academics, the usual upper NW population. When I visited a friend there, the only thing I didn't like was that there's no walkable campus. Those who have good mobility can walk out into the surrounding neighborhood, but the campus itself, while nestled among trees, is very hilly and doesn't even have great sidewalks to walk in and out of the complex.

That said, if you want educated, upscale, nonprofit, and close-in, I assume this should be on your list.

I have a relative who works in these kind of facilities. They are all the same. They all use the same staff (literally--the pay is low so the women work at 2 or more facilities or work in a facility and then also do home care). The staff are from poor countries overseas (mostly Haiti and African countries) and do no share American values on work ethic, cleanliness, politeness, and they do not enjoy interaction with other staff who are not of their ethnic group (my relative, who is African-American, feels ostracized). The facilities try to feed the residents as cheaply as possible.

Anonymous wrote:OP here - any suggestions for good non-profits that are nice with well educated residents?

I like Asbury Methodist village and Ingleside. Ingleside is higher end. But amv has some really lovely features and a nice community.

Sunrise Fox Hill in Bethesda is terrific

My mom is at the Landing. She is in the Independent Care, does not need a high level of service yet. I think your experience will vary -- she was pretty isolated previously and struggled finding things to do on her own. If your parents already are able to plan their own activities, etc., they may not be blown away by the offerings. But she enjoys the outings to restaurants and the book club and the movie nights, which she would not have been able to plan on her own. She also loves the food -- we have eaten there with her and it's fine -- kind of bland for our tastes but good for the residents. And she has met a lot of fascinating people -- she does not have a particularly impressive background but she tells me frequently how accomplished the people she interacts with are.

Anonymous wrote:Once you are in memory care or even the more needy side of assisted living, high end is meaningless. It’s the quality of care that matters.

yes but high quality care (good staffing ratios, better paid staff with less turnover) usually costs more and in general income and education are positively correlated. That said, I don't think my mom is a better memory care co-resident just because she went to an Ivy League school and was reasonably well-off (and bought long term care insurance ages ago)

Anonymous wrote:Once you are in memory care or even the more needy side of assisted living, high end is meaningless. It’s the quality of care that matters.

Sorry if this sounds harsh. My MIL wanted a place with educated residents, beautiful buildings, etc., and got it but the period of enjoying that ended up being short. Her end of life was horrific. She needed good care in memory and in rehab/skilled nursing and her place was awful in that regard.