Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class of 2025 - how are the GPAs looking, higher or lower than 2024. Class of 2025 was the first batch after the admissions policy change.

Welp, they tried their hardest to keep the GPAs up.

They lowered standards, provided extra support and they still had the worst performance they've ever seen.

The teachers wrote:

"These scores are deeply disappointing, and are the lowest scores we’ve ever seen as Math 4 teachers on a Final Exam."

The math teachers noted that the final exam was “substantially easier” than final exams given to previous classes. The teachers said the students had “unprecedented supports provided to you this semester, including extra practice quizzes, bonus quizzes, practice worksheets, and a practice final exam, all things that were not given to previous students.”

The teachers continued:

"We expected to see scores rise, not drop, with our lowering of standards."

As a solution, the teachers said:

"We will curve the exam by 10 percentage points (which means 7.5 points, out of 75), but you should know that this curve is artificial and not deserved."

They also said:

"This indicates to us that you either didn’t study, or you studied poorly. Even worse, the preponderance of evidence indicates that many of you weren’t willing to change how you learned or studied since the start of Math 4."

They finish with:

"We still believe every single one of you belongs at this school and can succeed"

So the students of the new cohort had standards lowered, extra support and still did worse than ever before. But the teachers still believe in them. This was back in 2022, so maybe they were able to bring up their grades over the next few years. We will see. SAT scores will be published and we will also get some idea of what GPAs look like.

Anonymous wrote:That 2022 chart is senior graduating GPA which generally goes up by .1 or so because of so many APs, post APs and senior lab. This year, I was told that my junior with a 4.3 would likely be in the top 35/40%.

Anonymous wrote:T20

Anonymous wrote:DD is a junior Class of 2025 at TJ and has a GPA of 4.2 - any idea on where she is possibly placed in the class ranking. Trying to look at college options and from our understanding kids are compared against their HS peers. Thank you in advance.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class of 2025 - how are the GPAs looking, higher or lower than 2024. Class of 2025 was the first batch after the admissions policy change.

Monitoring. Remedial math has been introduced starting with class of 2025, so curious how their gpa performance turns out compared to previous mostly merit classes. Prior classes also had a portion that were admitted on non-merit basis, but a smaller portion about 20+ compared to 160+ now.

Right now about 550 kids (100%) are admitted on a non-merit basis as freshmen.
Sure, some of those kids would have gotten in under a merit system but probably less than a third of them.
On the bright side, the level of stress for that third to be in the top third of the class is significantly reduced.

The froshmores are admitted on a merit basis.

approximately, how many froshmores were admitted last year? are they enrolled in any specific classes to makeup for missing TJ freshman year?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class of 2025 - how are the GPAs looking, higher or lower than 2024. Class of 2025 was the first batch after the admissions policy change.

Monitoring. Remedial math has been introduced starting with class of 2025, so curious how their gpa performance turns out compared to previous mostly merit classes. Prior classes also had a portion that were admitted on non-merit basis, but a smaller portion about 20+ compared to 160+ now.

Right now about 550 kids (100%) are admitted on a non-merit basis as freshmen.
Sure, some of those kids would have gotten in under a merit system but probably less than a third of them.
On the bright side, the level of stress for that third to be in the top third of the class is significantly reduced.

The froshmores are admitted on a merit basis.

Anonymous wrote:Math 4 is harder than math 3. My daughter did not have enough time to review for her final exam because she had lots of projects and other final exams and AP exams at her first TJ school year. Otherwise, she can get A grade easily.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class of 2025 - how are the GPAs looking, higher or lower than 2024. Class of 2025 was the first batch after the admissions policy change.

Welp, they tried their hardest to keep the GPAs up.

They lowered standards, provided extra support and they still had the worst performance they've ever seen.

The teachers wrote:

"These scores are deeply disappointing, and are the lowest scores we’ve ever seen as Math 4 teachers on a Final Exam."

The math teachers noted that the final exam was “substantially easier” than final exams given to previous classes. The teachers said the students had “unprecedented supports provided to you this semester, including extra practice quizzes, bonus quizzes, practice worksheets, and a practice final exam, all things that were not given to previous students.”

The teachers continued:

"We expected to see scores rise, not drop, with our lowering of standards."

As a solution, the teachers said:

"We will curve the exam by 10 percentage points (which means 7.5 points, out of 75), but you should know that this curve is artificial and not deserved."

They also said:

"This indicates to us that you either didn’t study, or you studied poorly. Even worse, the preponderance of evidence indicates that many of you weren’t willing to change how you learned or studied since the start of Math 4."

They finish with:

"We still believe every single one of you belongs at this school and can succeed"

So the students of the new cohort had standards lowered, extra support and still did worse than ever before. But the teachers still believe in them. This was back in 2022, so maybe they were able to bring up their grades over the next few years. We will see. SAT scores will be published and we will also get some idea of what GPAs look like.

Omg. This is from 3 years ago and it was for math 4, which was more sophomores who were under the old admissions and did first year during covid than freshmen. Also that teacher was a jerk. Enough.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class of 2025 - how are the GPAs looking, higher or lower than 2024. Class of 2025 was the first batch after the admissions policy change.

Welp, they tried their hardest to keep the GPAs up.

They lowered standards, provided extra support and they still had the worst performance they've ever seen.

The teachers wrote:

"These scores are deeply disappointing, and are the lowest scores we’ve ever seen as Math 4 teachers on a Final Exam."

The math teachers noted that the final exam was “substantially easier” than final exams given to previous classes. The teachers said the students had “unprecedented supports provided to you this semester, including extra practice quizzes, bonus quizzes, practice worksheets, and a practice final exam, all things that were not given to previous students.”

The teachers continued:

"We expected to see scores rise, not drop, with our lowering of standards."

As a solution, the teachers said:

"We will curve the exam by 10 percentage points (which means 7.5 points, out of 75), but you should know that this curve is artificial and not deserved."

They also said:

"This indicates to us that you either didn’t study, or you studied poorly. Even worse, the preponderance of evidence indicates that many of you weren’t willing to change how you learned or studied since the start of Math 4."

They finish with:

"We still believe every single one of you belongs at this school and can succeed"

So the students of the new cohort had standards lowered, extra support and still did worse than ever before. But the teachers still believe in them. This was back in 2022, so maybe they were able to bring up their grades over the next few years. We will see. SAT scores will be published and we will also get some idea of what GPAs look like.

The vast majority of the students who received this message were members of the class of 2024 (it was delivered in the Spring of 2022). Nice try, though. You mistakenly made the opposite point.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class of 2025 - how are the GPAs looking, higher or lower than 2024. Class of 2025 was the first batch after the admissions policy change.

Welp, they tried their hardest to keep the GPAs up.

They lowered standards, provided extra support and they still had the worst performance they've ever seen.

The teachers wrote:

"These scores are deeply disappointing, and are the lowest scores we’ve ever seen as Math 4 teachers on a Final Exam."

The math teachers noted that the final exam was “substantially easier” than final exams given to previous classes. The teachers said the students had “unprecedented supports provided to you this semester, including extra practice quizzes, bonus quizzes, practice worksheets, and a practice final exam, all things that were not given to previous students.”

The teachers continued:

"We expected to see scores rise, not drop, with our lowering of standards."

As a solution, the teachers said:

"We will curve the exam by 10 percentage points (which means 7.5 points, out of 75), but you should know that this curve is artificial and not deserved."

They also said:

"This indicates to us that you either didn’t study, or you studied poorly. Even worse, the preponderance of evidence indicates that many of you weren’t willing to change how you learned or studied since the start of Math 4."

They finish with:

"We still believe every single one of you belongs at this school and can succeed"

So the students of the new cohort had standards lowered, extra support and still did worse than ever before. But the teachers still believe in them. This was back in 2022, so maybe they were able to bring up their grades over the next few years. We will see. SAT scores will be published and we will also get some idea of what GPAs look like.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class of 2025 - how are the GPAs looking, higher or lower than 2024. Class of 2025 was the first batch after the admissions policy change.

Welp, they tried their hardest to keep the GPAs up.

They lowered standards, provided extra support and they still had the worst performance they've ever seen.

The teachers wrote:

"These scores are deeply disappointing, and are the lowest scores we’ve ever seen as Math 4 teachers on a Final Exam."

The math teachers noted that the final exam was “substantially easier” than final exams given to previous classes. The teachers said the students had “unprecedented supports provided to you this semester, including extra practice quizzes, bonus quizzes, practice worksheets, and a practice final exam, all things that were not given to previous students.”

The teachers continued:

"We expected to see scores rise, not drop, with our lowering of standards."

As a solution, the teachers said:

"We will curve the exam by 10 percentage points (which means 7.5 points, out of 75), but you should know that this curve is artificial and not deserved."

They also said:

"This indicates to us that you either didn’t study, or you studied poorly. Even worse, the preponderance of evidence indicates that many of you weren’t willing to change how you learned or studied since the start of Math 4."

They finish with:

"We still believe every single one of you belongs at this school and can succeed"

So the students of the new cohort had standards lowered, extra support and still did worse than ever before. But the teachers still believe in them. This was back in 2022, so maybe they were able to bring up their grades over the next few years. We will see. SAT scores will be published and we will also get some idea of what GPAs look like.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class of 2025 - how are the GPAs looking, higher or lower than 2024. Class of 2025 was the first batch after the admissions policy change.

Monitoring. Remedial math has been introduced starting with class of 2025, so curious how their gpa performance turns out compared to previous mostly merit classes. Prior classes also had a portion that were admitted on non-merit basis, but a smaller portion about 20+ compared to 160+ now.