Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 13:05     Subject: 4 yrs of English a must? STEM
Gotta take some type of English through senior year. Unless your kid goes to an unusually STEM focused college program (like RPI), they will have English, humanities electives, even for a STEM degree. He needs to show colleges he didn’t just stop with the reading, writing and analysis in 10th grade. Plus, even STEM requires strong writing and communication abilities in many fields.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 11:14     Subject: 4 yrs of English a must? STEM
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aren't 4 years of English a graduation requirement?


He got credit for honors 9 and 10 during middle school. In addition to what he has taken in high school is already over graduation requirements, but I’m more concerned with college admissions


I've never heard of taking high school English in middle school. It seems like a very bad idea, because even the most advanced/gifted middle schooler still doesn't have the emotional maturity to tackle high school level themes and subjects.


This. Why did he do that? Makes no sense.

OP, he should take some type of English class
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 10:51     Subject: 4 yrs of English a must? STEM
Anonymous wrote:Senior with a dilemma of what to take next yr:

My son took a couple yrs of high school English in middle school. He started freshman year in 11 Honors, took AP Eng lang sophomore yr and AP Eng lit junior yr. He is wanting to pursue STEM field in college. Senior yr there are no more AP English classes available to him, he could take advanced journalism or creative but neither are AP level courses. He could do duel enrollment for college level English, but that cuts into his day leaving less time for other classes. He would rather take 2 math or 2 sciences. Since he has already taken the two AP English classes available, would it be looked down if he takes a less rigorous English class his senior yr?


No, it won't be looked down upon. It's totally fine. There is never an expectation to do dual enrollment.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 10:51     Subject: 4 yrs of English a must? STEM
Anonymous wrote:Some people are so close to recognizing that they value vocational schools. So close.


I love you.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 10:49     Subject: 4 yrs of English a must? STEM
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has taken four years of English.

The HS graduation requirement of four years of English doesn’t work the same way as, say, four years of French, where you need to get through French 4 but a lot of kids can manage that by 10th or 11th because they started in middle school. It means you have to take English in all four years of high school. That’s generally not negotiable.

You're right, they're not the same: foreign language for college admission works on levels (btw level 3 foreign lang for a STEM kid may be fine, as it was for my senior). English works on credits. OP's kid has 5 high school credits for English, assuming the credits taken in middle school are on the high school transcript (this may vary by district, as some districts might only carry up high school math and foreign lang credits taken in middle school).

My rising junior has additional English credits from having taken two semesters of dual enrollment English in 10th. He will have 4-5 English credits at the end of next year and is considering graduating early from high school, at the end of jr yr.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 10:41     Subject: 4 yrs of English a must? STEM
Anonymous wrote:Senior with a dilemma of what to take next yr:

My son took a couple yrs of high school English in middle school. He started freshman year in 11 Honors, took AP Eng lang sophomore yr and AP Eng lit junior yr. He is wanting to pursue STEM field in college. Senior yr there are no more AP English classes available to him, he could take advanced journalism or creative but neither are AP level courses. He could do duel enrollment for college level English, but that cuts into his day leaving less time for other classes. He would rather take 2 math or 2 sciences. Since he has already taken the two AP English classes available, would it be looked down if he takes a less rigorous English class his senior yr?



Why didn't your student apply for early college?
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 10:40     Subject: 4 yrs of English a must? STEM
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He has taken four years of English.

The HS graduation requirement of four years of English doesn’t work the same way as, say, four years of French, where you need to get through French 4 but a lot of kids can manage that by 10th or 11th because they started in middle school. It means you have to take English in all four years of high school. That’s generally not negotiable.


False.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/curriculum/graduation-requirements/graduationataglance_classof2028.pdf
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 10:39     Subject: 4 yrs of English a must? STEM
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aren't 4 years of English a graduation requirement?


He got credit for honors 9 and 10 during middle school. In addition to what he has taken in high school is already over graduation requirements, but I’m more concerned with college admissions


I've never heard of this. Do you live in another region of the country?

I’ve heard of kids advanced so that they skip grades entirely and are HS freshmen at age 10 or whatever
If you believe 10 year olds can take high school English, why is OP's story of a 12/13 year old taking high school English so hard to believe?


It’s hard for me to believe because in my district English is used to define grades: a senior is defined as a student who has passed English 11 and Algebra 2 and accumulated 18 Carnegie Units. You can’t graduate without English 12 but you can graduate in 3 years if you meet all the graduation requirements. Thus if you accelerate English, as OP’s kid did, you switch from being advanced for your grade (in the class of 2025) to being young for your grade (in the class of 2024). It’s terrible if this was allowed to happen to OP’s kid without them understanding it, because it would mean they will accidentally graduate from high school this month and they obviously are not prepared for that.


Did you consider that maybe OP doesn't live in your mysterious district? Are you even in DMV?