Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 08:56     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Lot of clapping is important and always say excactly how you are feeling throughout the game. Crossing enemy lines like seat jumping in a stadium to upgrade, its great way to meet new people and have lively conversations. Conversation may go astray so clapping is harder and louder can divert from any conflict
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 08:55     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
The answer is no one should be coaching from the sidelines except the coach. At any age. But the reality is that’s never going to stop and will only get worse as the kids get older.

The reality is also that a competitive kid is only listening to who they need to listen to (either their coach or themselves). Everything else is just noise that they are likely used to and have tuned out.

If the noise off the field affects your kid, that is something they need to learn how to tune out. And frankly, most top kids can already do that without being taught.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 08:49     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bunch of Karens posting here in daily basis. Of course protecting their little drama queens who play soccer and are the kind of players don’t like the mud in their new cleats.


No, it’s that the has-been soccer dads are so lacking in self awareness that they don’t know how ridiculous they sound.


then which one are you?
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 05:57     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:Bunch of Karens posting here in daily basis. Of course protecting their little drama queens who play soccer and are the kind of players don’t like the mud in their new cleats.


No, it’s that the has-been soccer dads are so lacking in self awareness that they don’t know how ridiculous they sound.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 23:59     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:This is just my opinion, but I think if they are under 18 and/or not getting paid to play soccer, then spectators should keep their criticisms to themselves. Especially to other peoples' kids. Half the time the criticisms aren't even correct. If you think the kids on the team get motivated by it, sure shout some general encouragements or compliments after a good play. Otherwise say it under your breath or not at all.

DC's old team had a dad who was always yelling criticisms at other peoples' kids. It really annoyed the rest of us. Thankfully my DC got moved up and away from it. DC recently practiced with the old team in a combined training session, and the yelling dad's kid got in trouble for yelling at their teammates during practice. Dad was hoping their kid would be moved up for next year and it didn't happen. Probably because the higher team coach doesn't want to deal with the toxic behavior. Great job dad!


My kid endured 4 dads! We just mockingly called them the jury (behind their backs - why stoop to their level?) and son learned to ignore. U15. To the PP who said it’s the parents who stay quiet are the ones who know the game - that’s a +1 in my book.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 23:16     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Practices should be 90% coaching and 10% playing. Games should be 90% playing and 10% coaching.

I personally think game recordings are a great way for players to learn afterwards. Too few players or coaches utilize these tools.


A a team manger, it take a lot of time to get value out of the game videos. Time to watch the whole game and identify plays and mark the teaching points. Then set up a video review and go over the teaching points with the players. This is about 3 extra hours of effort. It is hard to do and our Coach would rather just have practice. I feel like the video stuff is just a "feel good item", it is not practical at the U12-U9 level. A club can say they have it, but it is tough to utilize.

I love the video stuff and think it’s super useful, I also think it’s very helpful for parents who know little about soccer to sit down through a game or two with someone who does (coach or whoever.)

I think the primary obstacle is cost. It’s expensive to get just a basic camera and subscription. Once you get over that, there’s the time factor as pp mentioned, and there are features that can significantly cut down the time it takes to make a lesson out of video review - but you have to pay extra for them.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 21:34     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:They should all shut the hell up!

Let the coach coach and let the kids try to use their own brain for decision making without the joystick leashes.

Parents who actually know the game are quiet


This!

I sit in the back and listen to these parents screeching at their children and just cringe.

I tell my DH I prefer watching basketball because I'm just clueless and it all rolls off me.

Watching soccer with vocal spectators just drives me nuts.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 21:33     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:Practices should be 90% coaching and 10% playing. Games should be 90% playing and 10% coaching.

I personally think game recordings are a great way for players to learn afterwards. Too few players or coaches utilize these tools.


A a team manger, it take a lot of time to get value out of the game videos. Time to watch the whole game and identify plays and mark the teaching points. Then set up a video review and go over the teaching points with the players. This is about 3 extra hours of effort. It is hard to do and our Coach would rather just have practice. I feel like the video stuff is just a "feel good item", it is not practical at the U12-U9 level. A club can say they have it, but it is tough to utilize.

But getting back to parents... they are terrible at U10-U11.... they often don't know when to shut up. The kids are too little to take criticism from the parents and they don't know enough etiquette to tone it down a few levels. Also, I have noticed the most critical parents tend to have the most critical kids who criticize their teammates. Shit just rolls down hill in that regard.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 21:25     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Practices should be 90% coaching and 10% playing. Games should be 90% playing and 10% coaching.

I personally think game recordings are a great way for players to learn afterwards. Too few players or coaches utilize these tools.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 20:47     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Parents shouldn’t be coaching from the sidelines, especially other people’s kids. It’s the coaches job.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 19:05     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:I think it depends on the frequency. A few pieces of constructive criticism here and there could either be helpful or easily ignored if not helpful. But if it's constant or too frequent, it can be counterproductive.


If your shirt doesn't say 'Coach', feel free to harass and terrorize your own child in the privacy of your SUV
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:51     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
I think it depends on the frequency. A few pieces of constructive criticism here and there could either be helpful or easily ignored if not helpful. But if it's constant or too frequent, it can be counterproductive.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:19     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:Bunch of Karens posting here in daily basis. Of course protecting their little drama queens who play soccer and are the kind of players don’t like the mud in their new cleats.


You're obviously not a soccer person. No true soccer person likes mud on their boots
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:17     Subject: Re:Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To be clear, [b]how is a player supposed to learn good decision making if former player Daddy is directing--I mean, yelling "constructive" things--from the sideline?[/b]


Without taking a position one way or another, I think the thinking is that, say, if Graydon the MLS Next wunderkid has the ball outside the box and has a clear pass to another player who is unmarked, in the box, on-side, and in a clearly superior scoring position, and Graydon decides to take a wildly unsuccessful shot instead of passing to his teammate, then another parent yelling "You had Roberto open in the middle - look up, look for a pass!" might be -- might be, mind you -- an incident where Graydon factors that feedback into his decision-making next time.

I mean, nobody seems to bat an eye at Daddy yelling "Great job, Graydon! Keep shooting! It's all about who wants it!"

As for dealing with the "don't you dare say anything to my kid" parents out there, maybe the solution is for the other parents to just tell to Roberto "Hey, Roberto! Great positioning! You could have scored! Communicate! Tell your teammates instead of always shooting, they should look to pass the ball to other players sometimes! You were in a great scoring position!" Then nobody will get upset that you're yelling criticism to their kid.

Of course, ball-hogging and favoritism and parental influence do not play any role in youth soccer. At all. Perish the thought.


The coach can easily do that at the half, or after the game, or the next practice session.
Or are you paying the coach to babysit while Parent 'X' yells (it's not coaching) from the sidelines?
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 17:37     Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Bunch of Karens posting here in daily basis. Of course protecting their little drama queens who play soccer and are the kind of players don’t like the mud in their new cleats.